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atreyuangel
post Aug 10 2019, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 10 2019, 12:27 AM)
Yes. It is rare for SAF to reveal such things unless it is carefully calibrated to inform potential rivals. I do not know why.

Sg has gone beyond the Hunter IFV. Suffice it to say, they can build an indigenous MBT proper if they would want to.

Recent news show that the next evolution for SG is autonomous IFVs and even tanks. To those who are cognizant about such tech, Sg is light years ahead of the majority of countries in the world. The ramifications are vast - machines will be taking the lead and/or with human operators miles away.
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nah every information is vital for study
not as a rival but it shows the doctrine or based that we could follow suit in our own development
for example I can see a little similarity towards the Isreal IFV armor design

that is useful enough

QUOTE(razhar @ Aug 10 2019, 12:38 AM)
babi tu anggota simpanan singopork kot...tu pasai dia dapat close up
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ganaihnya ko kuceng, takut aku hehehehe
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post Aug 10 2019, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 10 2019, 08:15 AM)
You are making the obvious motherhood statements Atreyu. Western designs of IFVs and tanks share similarities - not all. This is because of similar preceptions of weaknesses and strengths. The Puma, Namer and Hunter share a certain overt physical aspect at face value for instance. All 3 are medium/heavy IFVs.

Malaysia does not have a cohesive and evolutionary ifv or tank development process - the result of feeding too many local jerungs in order to market foreign designs. Licence production boleh la.
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lol, I am feeding the information to ones of the jerungs!
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post Aug 11 2019, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Aug 10 2019, 06:28 PM)
600m range

Get some Javelins
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bukan dah bocor rahsia dalam Sipri report hari tu ka laugh.gif

btw Happy Eid Adha guise!
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post Aug 11 2019, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 11 2019, 11:31 AM)
It wasn't in any SIPRI but was reported by Shephard News.

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http://www.malaysiandefence.com/shepard-sa...ought-javelins/

I think they confused it with the Javelin SAM.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javelin_(su...to-air_missile)

Btw Happy Eid Adha.
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haha silap source lak, tapi dua2 start with S
I know javelin SAM

baru nak syiok sendiri aja
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post Aug 12 2019, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Aug 11 2019, 09:32 PM)
In other news.
"neutral" Switzerland invades German principality thrice  laugh.gif
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itu tak kira Liechtenstein lagi laugh.gif
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post Aug 17 2019, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Aug 16 2019, 09:41 PM)
we didn't source some of our sukhoi parts from HAL, did we?
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only licenses parts
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post Sep 4 2019, 11:23 AM

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Dengan penuh rasa sedih saya ingin memberi tahu bahawa

Mejar Zahir GGK also known as Anak Badul has passed away in Queen Elizabeth Hospital due to accident during demo

Al-Fatihah dan Salam Takziah

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all GGK colours will be hang at half mast from now till further notice

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post Sep 4 2019, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 4 2019, 11:34 AM)
'We were willing to die to bring back MH17's black boxes', says M'sian covert team commander

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MH17 was shot down on July 17, 2014 en route to Kuala Lumpur from Amsterdam, killing all 283 passengers and 15 crew on board.
Published04 SEPTEMBER, 2019UPDATED 04 SEPTEMBER, 2019

KUALA LUMPUR — Recovering the black boxes of downed Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 from war-torn eastern Ukraine was a matter of national dignity for the team now nicknamed the “Dozen Persons”.

“I promised the then prime minister (Datuk Seri Najib Razak) that we’d bring back the black boxes, even if we needed to sacrifice our lives. It was to restore the nation’s dignity,” said Colonel Mohd Sakri Hussin.

Mr Sakri was the commander of the Dozen Persons, the team that was tasked with entering eastern Ukraine covertly to secure the two black boxes of the Boeing 777-200ER and the bodies of the victims following the tragedy on July 17, 2014.

“The PM told me that this was a mission to restore the nation’s dignity. We had lost MH370 only months ago, and now another flight was shot down.

“If the country couldn’t retrieve the black boxes, we would seem weak. So, I told my men that no matter what happened to us, we would make sure the black boxes were retrieved. We were doing it for the country,” he told the New Straits Times recently.

MH17 was shot down en route to Kuala Lumpur from Amsterdam, killing all 283 passengers and 15 crew on board.

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The “Dozen Persons” team was tasked with entering eastern Ukraine covertly to secure the two black boxes of the Boeing 777-200ER and the bodies of the victims following the tragedy of MH17 on July 17, 2014. Photo: New Straits Times

Mr Sakri said even though the mission took place five years ago, it was still fresh in his mind.

He said the operation was the most challenging one in his career.

“We had no firearms. We went in empty. All we had were some money (to rent a car), food and medication to pull off the covert operation.

“I joined the armed forces in 1981. I was involved in the Communist Insurgency. When we faced the communists, we could always go in a group and plan the operation.

“This (MH17) operation, we could also plan, but it was different as the rebels could find us, could easily attack us with artillery and we could be gone in a split second,” he said.

Mr Sakri, now senior deputy director (operations department) with the National Disaster Management Agency, said the National Security Council initiated a plan once they learnt about the downing of MH17.

“I was National Security Council principal assistant secretary in 2014. Soon after we learnt MH17 was shot down in Ukraine, the council assembled, called up all relevant agencies and gave assistance on how to proceed with the operation.

“Most arrangements were made by the Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) (now Civil Aviation Authority of Malaysia), but as the agency responsible for security, the council decided to send a team to the crash site as fast as possible.”

He said the team of 115 people departed for the Ukrainian capital of Kiev on July 20 and were warned by the ambassador not to take any action without the permission of the Ukrainian government.

“During the briefing with the ambassador at the hotel (in Kiev), I received a call from my boss stating that the PM wanted to talk to me. The PM told me to initiate a covert mission, a special operation to establish contact with (Ukrainian separatist leader Alexander) Borodai. He gave me two numbers and asked me to contact them.

“After the call with the PM, I dialled one of the numbers given, and because Borodai couldn’t speak English, he passed the phone to his chief of security Sergei (Kavtaradze), who I had the preliminary negotiation with.”

Mr Sakri said he picked 11 men to accompany him to meet the separatists in Donetsk.

The men included armed forces doctors Brigadier-General Datuk Dr Mohd Ilham Haron and Major Dr Mohd Hafizi Abdullah; Kuala Lumpur Hospital pathologist Datuk Dr Mohd Shah Mahmood; and Royal Malaysian Air Force commandos Major Nazri Musman, Major Muhammad Mustafa Omar, Sergeant Shahrizal Abu Bakar, Corporal Rosli Mustafa and Lance Corporal Mohd Afendy Ahmad Zaini.

Also in the team were interpreter Captain Dr Mohd Zainizam Zainal, Special Malaysia Disaster Assistance and Rescue Team member Inspector Abd Rahim Abd Aziz and communications expert Rosli Shaari.

Mr Sakri said the Dozen Persons team left Kiev for Kharkiv in two vans, arriving six hours later, after spending an hour at a checkpoint manned by Ukrainian police.

After a short rest, the team continued on to Donetsk, where the separatists’ headquarters were.

“It took us four hours to make the 140km journey as we had to go through 10 checkpoints guarded by the military. There were two tanks at every checkpoint which were at the ready while we were questioned by soldiers.”

He said the situation at the second last checkpoint was especially tense as the team was held and their passports were seized by soldiers.

“We were all on visitor’s visas. The questions they asked were simple: What’s the purpose of the journey? Have we obtained permission from the government?

“We answered every question honestly and did not try to hide anything.

“We regarded it as a test of our faith from Allah. We did our best and left the rest in God’s hands.”

After finally passing through all the checkpoints, the team arrived at the separatists’ headquarters and immediately began negotiations for MH17’s voice and flight data recorders, the return of all the bodies of the victims, which the rebels had collected and kept in refrigerated train wagons, and for investigators to be allowed to enter the crash site.

“We were constantly communicating with the PM throughout the journey as he was worried. During the conversation with Borodai, I connected him with the PM. The PM thanked Borodai for his cooperation.

“They agreed to all of our requests, but asked for time to complete the documentation process.”

At a press conference later, which was aired live internationally, the recorders were handed over to Mr Sakri, who passed it over to Mr Mustafa, a Royal Malaysian Air Force commando.

Mr Sakri said the black boxes were then kept in a backpack that never left Mustafa’s side.

The wagons carrying the victims’ bodies were later hooked up to a train in nearby Torez and drawn to Kharkiv, arriving seven hours later.

“The train moved very slowly. We could hear lots of interference and movements, even people jumping onto the train throughout the journey. I made sure that all my men were with me and told them we needed to stick together, even after we arrived at the railway station (in Kharkiv).

“When we arrived at the station, the Ukrainian government announced that Malaysia could keep the black boxes.”

In Kharkiv, a United States Federal Bureau of Investigation agent approached Mr Sakri, asking for the black boxes.

“I told him off, saying that they belonged to Malaysia. Then, three legal officers from the Ukrainian government approached us.

“They told us that we violated their laws and that action could be taken against us. I thanked them for the information and told them that regardless of what they did to us, whether they arrested us or killed us, I was not going to hand over the black boxes.”

Mr Sakri said the black boxes were ultimately handed over to the then DCA director-general Datuk Seri Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, who then flew to Farnborough, near London, under the strict control of Malaysian and Dutch security forces for the investigation. NEW STRAITS TIMES
Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/world/we-were-w...-team-commander
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Hurrahh 17 Melayu
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Sep 4 2019, 11:43 AM)
innalillah....semaga arwah ditempat di kalangan orang beriman...

macam mana jadi accident tu??
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from early report he was suppose to be hit at the plate at the back, but his buddy shotting is about 1 or half inch above the plate hence at the back of the neck

QUOTE(zacky chan @ Sep 4 2019, 11:48 AM)
the bad is when it happen,some politician doubt we are able to send a team at fast to respond and deal things...some even ridicule it...and even worse is some of politician who doubt and ridicule now in the govt at helm....hope they learn more and become mature...
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tu belum part ridicule Kol Sakri english lagi waktu press conference during receiving of the balck box
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Sep 4 2019, 12:09 PM)
RIP
So were the black boxes used in the investigation?
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Given to the AAIB

QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 4 2019, 12:14 PM)
Al-Fatihah..... takziah. Such a great lost to the nation. A very specialised GGK officer
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Itu la, yg buddy dia Lt. Kol Razahar Jerung
CO21 x silap
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 4 2019, 12:20 PM)
Both sharpshooter tu...  dah nk jadi kan....sedih dengar
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itu aa
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QUOTE(miuk @ Sep 6 2019, 08:48 AM)
Is it one those russian style confidence drills?
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event launching gimmick
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post Sep 11 2019, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 10 2019, 11:44 PM)
Cannot.... and I feel regret. After 4 yrs in france I am still not master in french
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aih nak jadik Sub Kapten balik ni kang
kene brush up la wei

amcam France after awhile?
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 11 2019, 01:26 AM)
Depa kata kami bawak hujan pi Toulon. Toulon dh 6 bln tak hujan...kami sampai je hujan sampai ke mlm
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balik cepat oii... Jerebu makin kuat Malaysia nih laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 16 2019, 10:33 AM)
same like killer egg... some1 here talk so much kok n now what also dun have...
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auww you do care!
funny to see how a singaporean care soo much then Malaysian on this issue

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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Sep 17 2019, 06:47 PM)
our MALE UAV and MPA still underway... so its ok
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patut tahun lepas on december we should already received MALE UAV
then gomen change plan to UCAV pulak

now UAV balik doh.gif
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Sep 17 2019, 07:54 PM)
MALE UAV??we order that for December last year??what type??
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actually we order it way before, only that we are suppose to received the first batch of 2 by last December.

Iinm the model is GE Predator XP
4 unit under US FMS program and this was suppose to be pair with the scan-eagle program to compliment each other.

But then plan changes and we opt for UCAV instead thus this program cancel and for UCAV we need go thru the US Congress for approval. Earlier this year seems that the list of UCAV has been listed by the government along with the local agent company. Who knows which one will be chose.
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Sep 17 2019, 10:11 PM)
really......first time knowing about this  shocking.gif

why no announcement about it??pity we did not get it...
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Itu tak pasti, tp in 2018 ada some sort of MOU signing during DSA
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QUOTE(Jaq_Ishmael @ Sep 18 2019, 01:39 AM)
Predator ? Pheww...
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Predator XP aja
plus there is a clause by the US, must be stationed in Sabah laugh.gif
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Sep 18 2019, 01:16 PM)
^ Kek rolleyes.gif
Mentioned before in previous thread

But only as offer blabla

I suppose that's why we never paid much attention to it, though we should have looked for US announcements
Kan baik kalau UCAV
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UCAV mcm skrg ni la, after a year baru congress lulus
plus instead of FMS deal that is much cheaper now we have to buy a full amount of the unit
I can't remember the original FMS deals with the US, but dirt cheap compare to a full price
of course with FMS we need to share data with the US, but the the UCAV also comes with that term since it is comes with US weapons suite

but damn.. US congress offered us Sea Guardian la pulak and of course my bias starts to kick laugh.gif

btw the old government policy with the mindef is not to starts a UCAV scenario in the Spartly since if by the looks of it, Malaysia will be the first to deploy a weaponize drone in that area and other country will surely follow suit.

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