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zacky chan
post Nov 15 2019, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Strike @ Nov 15 2019, 03:19 PM)

gripen in the list  thumbsup.gif lol that one considered light trainer?


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of they willing to sold those at the price that we can afford,who are we to complaint brows.gif
zacky chan
post Nov 16 2019, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Nov 15 2019, 04:08 PM)
Dah ajak.... x jadi last minit. Tunggu la kot next
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kalo mat sabu pegi pastu post dekat social media mesti best....dari dulu dok bising bising kapal selam tak menyelam dan duk dekat port je walaupun sub dah tembak torpedo dan missile pun masih tak percaya laugh.gif

QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Nov 15 2019, 06:32 PM)
???

They are all light fighters. Gripen is roughly the same size and carries similar payload to FA-50 while Tejas is actually the smallest of all. JF-17 is the "heaviest" of all the options but they are roughly the same size as F-16 and if you trace F-16 development, they started as LWF (lightweight fighter) programme. Even JF-17 was designed based on J-7/Mig-21.

I think pipu thought just because it's lca it's must be based off a trainer
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it think its some where along that line....its been told and told how the LCA must be low cost in operation and maintenance so its never in their mind other than trainer should be contender....plus gripen before have been a candidate for MRCA so people may not expect it fall with in our budget for LCA tho...

i would be surprise if we would buy gripen actually considering the price but then the govt or armed force can use those to get MPA also so its a good trade i think...
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post Nov 16 2019, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(James831 @ Nov 16 2019, 09:44 AM)
if indeed this is the plan 18 + 18, SAAB GRIPEN or KAI FA-50 will be possible.
Hogging The Headlines Again
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go for korea made, then ask for FDI...get those big korean tech company invest here and create job...govt get to create job and RMAF get good LCA....

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rest assured that I was told that the next multi-role fighter for RMAF will indeed be a fifth or sixth generation fighter. It is likely I will be retired or had passed on, by then, however.


to me this passage made me died a little....it make me think the next jet fighter procurement will be really late in future despite MKM and hornet should start process to be replace around 2030 cry.gif
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post Nov 16 2019, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Nov 16 2019, 10:50 AM)
this is why that fella being a defence minister is just :x ... not only no relevant academic background (if there's any), meroyan tah hapa2 time kena soal kt parlimen, his history of undermining the military/LE summore :x:x:x... dah xde orang lain ke nk bg jawatan menhan?

btw Gripen is designed to be 1/3 of f-16 in term of maintenance/opex cost
Eh in the end of the day it's all about maintenance cost of platform. whether or not they are developed  as a trainer or not (which gripen was in the beginning) is irrelevant. else jf-17 and tejas shouldn't even be in the list, which they shouldn't in the first place

Gripen C/D in current configuration is even more capable than FA-50. Gripen can carry much more mission and much more diverse armaments than FA-50. Gripen can do maritime strike, SEAD, BVR interception (+aew ofc) et cetera. Gripen C/D can launch AIM-120 or MICA or even meteor, anti ship missile and even cruise missile. what can FA-50, with equally outdated and inferior radar, do?

this is why i said FA-50 got nerfed hard. not only that lockmard blocked Raytheon offfer to install aesa radar on FA-50, rokaf oso dun feel the need to equip them to match gripen despite its potential of matching gripen becoz of kfx
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irony....considering the old oppo keep fuss about how old govt minister was not up to education and experience...and yet new govt minister are also newbie with some bad/fake certificate....but that is politic...

i'm more concern about the procurement cost of gripen actually...maintenance wise,for a 4th gen fighter,gripen was a good deal....we still dont know how much money will be allocate for LCA...i think we will be lucky if can get 1.5 billion USD for that...but hope it wont be less than 1billion USD...

QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 16 2019, 12:09 PM)
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why got kids there  biggrin.gif
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future IDF in training maybe...Melentur Buluh Biarlah Dari Rebungnya laugh.gif
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post Nov 17 2019, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Nov 17 2019, 08:29 AM)
Egypt’s arms deals are ‘sovereign’ issue, not subject to foreign interference or opinion: senior official

https://wwww.dailynewssegypt.com/2019/11/16...enior-official/
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US dont make counter offer???sale F16 or F15 to Egypt??
zacky chan
post Nov 21 2019, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 21 2019, 03:08 PM)


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look at that jet fighter brows.gif
zacky chan
post Nov 21 2019, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 21 2019, 03:19 PM)
Hint tu... brows.gif
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if only la bro....money also not being allocate yet... sweat.gif
zacky chan
post Nov 22 2019, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(joevo2 @ Nov 22 2019, 10:35 AM)
If Malaysia get the Su-57E from Russia then no need scared of Singapore F35... but Su-57 is not MRCA right? Is more of air superiority?

Malaysia Mig29 what roles does it play since our Su30MKM is more of air superiority right?

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/500715
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need to see SU57 ability or combat first before can say that bro...F35 been in mock fight and real right before...especially israel F35 at its a proven platform...SU57 so far still blur

MIG enter as air superiority jet during its era and work best as interceptor menwhile MKM more multirole with ability to strike even land and maritime target...now MIG already retired...best of kos sell it and not take another new jet apart of LCA...

btw read malaysiadefense post by some reader here...its a good read for that...
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post Nov 22 2019, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(joevo2 @ Nov 22 2019, 11:23 AM)
What about MIG35 or even Su-35? Maintenance issue?

Is replacing out  MIG29 with MIG35 as offered by Russia a good deal? or we should throw russian out and think of western jet? or even chinese
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just remember this, even with china and india make SU30 part + indonesia and vietnam operate SU30 also we having problem with operate those platform...now imagine MIG35 that not being operate widely among asian neighbor...just how do we get over that???

best course of action was to trade our MIG with money(add that money toward LCA that intend to replace MIG also) or more SU30(18 gong kedak+6-8 at labuan AFB)...but so far both route not much sure....according to malaysiadefense, the trade MIG with SU30 was supersede by trade with MIG35..so that route is dead....meanwhile RMAF for sure wont add another russian mix since SU30 is enough for now...

even the kuwait F18 hornet also we not make stand to get it or not...despite its a good route considering it can be used for another 10-15 year and in line with our hornet and MKM replacement in future....

conclusion a lot of things uncertain....but it have been sure hornet and MKM will serve more until 2030...

btw if have time read http://www.malaysiandefence.com/ good insight and info there especially at comment section...

This post has been edited by zacky chan: Nov 22 2019, 12:29 PM
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post Nov 26 2019, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Nov 26 2019, 06:26 PM)
Thirteen French soldiers killed in Mali helicopter accident

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An inquiry has been opened into the cause of the mid-air collision, Defence Minister Florence Parly said in a separate statement.

Defence ministry sources said a Tiger attack helicopter collided with a larger Cougar military transport helicopter.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20191126/thirteen-f...hadists-in-mali


wut happen there??? another tiger AH mishap??? i thought all new heli got collision warning and radar sensor and all rclxub.gif
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post Nov 26 2019, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Nov 26 2019, 10:06 PM)
Tiger and Cougar.
showing just the drillz of the Tiger though, makes me wonder how they fit 13 people onto 2* tigers  laugh.gif

sos = CNN fake news
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how does become 2 tiger there???i thought it was cougar and tiger AH collision
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post Nov 26 2019, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Nov 26 2019, 11:06 PM)
most news outlet show picture of the tiger only....so reading the title, you'd think it was a tiger and tiger collision.
in other news outlets, they have the same title, but show cougar, so it made more sense in those...
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oh....ok....
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post Nov 27 2019, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 27 2019, 09:29 AM)
Milestone Reached For MMEA OPV


Some good news at last? thumbsup.gif
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really hope for govt to announce another batch NGPC and OPV preferably next year...at least it will help RMN in patrolling our sea
zacky chan
post Nov 27 2019, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 27 2019, 10:30 AM)
Takde duit dah, semua dah campak money pit LCS  laugh.gif

RM 700 million dah nak siap dah 3 biji OPV, LCS dah lebur RM 6 billion satu pun tak siap.
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been told many time our defense industry is bad to core...and yet they keep getting new contract instead of MRO...be it old govt or new govt..it will be the same it seem...

700 million is cheap change la...our sugar tax can cover those la...next batch please laugh.gif
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post Nov 27 2019, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 27 2019, 11:04 AM)
If a sum of RM6 billion is scaled down to RM600, then RM700 milion similarly scaled down is 70 centslaugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Primary school children will be able to enjoy free and healthy breakfast programmes starting next year from the revenue collected through the soon-to-be implemented Sugar Tax. https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/03/...school-children


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The total school days for 2020 have not been announced but for comparison, there are 214 school days this year which would translate to a total cost of RM1.44 billion.
https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/489649


can la....sugar tax can cover RM1.14 billion of RMT based food a year...that is a year...govt menabung for 3 year and that is good enough....sap sap sui lor... laugh.gif
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post Nov 27 2019, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Nov 27 2019, 09:03 PM)
Walking around shopping mall, a really bad idea masuk my head

Should ATM have official military toys?

Plastic army men in TDM uniform

TUDM airplanes

TLDM model ships

Bincangkan biggrin.gif
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just big nope...knowing malaysian politic,it will be crony based venture that will failed in product and marketing while big boss get big fat salary...both govt for now like that...plus the target market was not exist...
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post Nov 28 2019, 01:35 AM

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Afghanistan orders additional MD 530F helos

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Afghanistan is to receive a further 12 MD Helicopters Inc (MDHI) MD 530F Cayuse Warrior light attack and reconnaissance rotorcraft, to add to the 60 already delivered.

The announcement of the additional purchase on 27 November came just two days after MDHI said that it had completed deliveries of 60 helicopters that were ordered across different batches from 2011.

Under the latest procurement, which was ordered by the US Army under a wider USD1.4 billion Foreign Military Sales (FMS) effort for allied nations, the Afghan Air Force (AAF) will have 67 MD 530Fs in service taking into account battlefield losses and training accidents.

MDHI did not disclose when deliveries of the latest batch will commence and be concluded.

All MD 530Fs (known as 'Jengi' [Warrior] in AAF service) are equipped with a 'glass' cockpit (the older aircraft having been upgraded to this standard). They also have a ballistically tolerant crashworthy fuel system that features self-sealing fuel cells; crashworthy bladders compliant to MIL-DTL-27422 (the standard for crash- and ballistic-resistant fuel systems); gravity feed auxiliary fuel transfer; compatibility with the 38-gallon Little Bird Auxiliary Tank System (LBATS); accessibility for easy maintenance; and 'combat proven performance'.

https://www.janes.com/article/92860/afghani...l-md-530f-helos
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post Nov 29 2019, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 29 2019, 09:40 AM)
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The Royal New Zealand Navy have decommissioned 2 of its Lake class inshore patrol vessels (IPVs), RNZNS Rotoiti & RNZNS Pukaki. Should APMM try to snap them up? hmm.gif

Surprisingly, there are pretty new, being only commissioned in 2007 but since then the NZ Navy has decided that the class is unsuitable for NZ waters and have decided to decommission them and buy an additional heavier OPV instead.

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depends actually....if MMEA want to take that,would it cause the NGPC or OPV next batch to be hinder or even cancel???if not then i guess its good to have more ship on water..at least help to less burden our navy
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post Dec 2 2019, 04:51 PM

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go to 3:24 so DSA sponsor Naval News report laugh.gif


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post Dec 3 2019, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Dec 3 2019, 12:50 PM)
Govt mulls reviving Malaysian national service program: Mat Sabu

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The government may consider bringing back the defunct National Service Training Programme (PLKN), following calls for its revival by several lawmakers, says Mohamad Sabu.


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PLKN is national service?? hmm.gif

imo just no....budget already ciput...if have money just give to mindef for our army...or give to MMEA for new ship



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