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 Ubb CASH TRUST 3 years nett 6-8% pa anyone?, UBB Amanah Bhd

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SUSxander83
post Apr 1 2022, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 31 2022, 10:59 AM)
As far as I know, I've not seen any doc by UBB stating they're regulated under BNM or SC Malaysia. So in any event of default / dispute, you can't bring the matter to them.

Unless someone has any evidence to show otherwise.
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Ubb is operating as trust so any dispute you need to bring in to the court of law doh.gif

A trust doesn’t need BNM or SC approval to operate as they are just like normal private entity
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post Apr 1 2022, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 1 2022, 08:57 AM)
You may choose to dispute, provided you know what did UBB do with your money - in this case, do you even have any idea where is your money invested for that return? Do you even understand any underlying risk?

In any case, I'm sure you've signed off some documents to agree to undertake the risk to allow the trustee (UBB) to invest your money for a return. If there is any losses, that's on you.

The purpose of BNM or SC in a picture is in the event of such dispute, there is a entity that you can go to which is covered by law. Ask yourself why no trustee firms operate cash trust that gives high returns even though they're more established or well-known than UBB? The only act that you can rely on would be the Trustee Act 1949 - purview of Suruhanjaya Syarikat Malaysia (SSM)

You can file your court case but that's on your own expense to seek for "damages" but like I said, there is no such thing as risk free "investment" for a high return.

Understand this Example
1. You (Settlor) pass your money to UBB (Trustee) to hold on your money and allow them to invest it on your behalf.

Same scenario
2. You (Settlor) pass your money to John (Trustee) to hold on your money and allow John to invest it on your behalf, any losses, you can't blame John for losing the money other than being mad at him but that's your issue because you trust in John's ability to "invest" your money. Now you want to sue John for your losses because you trusted him?
- Do you even know where John invest your money to? - "Unknown & Non-Disclosure"
- Did John tell you what's the risk of investing with him? - "Unknown & Non-Disclosure"
- Did John guarantee anything to you? if yes, that's on his own capacity to fulfill it. Not obligated by law if he's not honoring it. - "Projected returns"
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I know how trustee system works which is why I stay away from ubb Fromm the get go doh.gif

YOU are delusional SC and BNM are protecting from dispute doh.gif

SC and BNM are only fronts for legal approval and transfers while any disputes still need to be dragged to court of law in the end doh.gif
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post Apr 1 2022, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 1 2022, 01:10 PM)
laugh.gif they are the regulators, you're making it sound like SC and BNM are just names to throw over a conversation like your grandma story.

You bring someone to court because of a BREACH. In your case, a DISPUTE (disagreement/argue about something) happened because something didn't follow through from the original agreement between you and the Trustee. So you're trying to pin a BREACH in the "agreement/contract". So good luck bringing to court and argue on what law did the Trustee breach that made them liable to pay on your litigation claims.

https://www.sc.com.my/resources/media/media...d-civil-penalty

Don't face palm too much, later face also swollen.
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They are regulators for paperwork and legal compliance on money transfers but when comes to investments there is no protection in the 1st place doh.gif

If there’s is a lot of StashAway users will disputing their losses from their recent KWEB selloff to SC and BNM instead doh.gif

SC is just a license for financial products to be sold to mass market nothing more than that useless regulator as 90% unit trust are loss maki8ng doh.gif
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post Apr 1 2022, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 1 2022, 01:23 PM)
Please ya, if you're salty over SC and BNM on their job, bring it to them. I am not here to entertain you and your grudge against them.

And a word of advise, learn to talk and ask properly, not in a sarcastic way with your  doh.gif. if that's your style, I feel sorry for you.

- I won't bother to reply your quotes anymore unless it's related to UBB / thread-
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I am not salty against SC and BNM but they are not trustworthy at all and politically motivated most of the time doh.gif

If you still think they will protect your monies good luck to you then doh.gif
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post Apr 2 2022, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Apr 2 2022, 10:57 AM)
Federal also
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WHEn investment fund having ads all around we all know that the fund in deep shit doh.gif

If the fund is capable wouldn’t resort such marketing as good fund will have lots of inflows when markets are turbulent
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post Apr 9 2022, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 9 2022, 10:52 AM)
Does these questions warrant the need to email n seek a meeting to get answers?
Really hv too much boring nothing productive to do at the office?
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Basically sweet talk you into buying something while smoothen and hide those shams behind the scenes doh.gif
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post Apr 10 2022, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 9 2022, 11:43 PM)
Is that what you experienced when she asked you do as per image?
Taken from lyn tread
ACE Holdings Berhad | ACE Group, Anyone here is an investor?
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4721390
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Yes it is the same doh.gif
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post Apr 10 2022, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 10 2022, 02:29 AM)
same what?

you called/emailed,....and she "Basically sweet talk you into buying something while smoothen and hide those shams behind the scenes" (as you posted earlier?)

you really experienced it from her or you just assumed ??
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You can try if you want to doh.gif

Not assumption as I know a few ppl who got trapped into it
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post Apr 10 2022, 03:09 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 10 2022, 02:37 AM)
ok,...thanks for the confirmation of your posting.
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If you want to know why it triggers a rm2 to 11cents company it is started because of this debacle

ACE HOLDINGS ISSUES CORRECTIVE DISCLOSURES FOLLOWING THE SC’S SANCTIONS AND OFFERS UNCONDITIONAL REDEMPTION TO SUBSCRIBERS
4 April 2019 | Kuala Lumpur
The Securities Commission Malaysia (SC) today informed the public that ACE Holdings Berhad (AHB) had on 1 April 2019 issued corrective disclosures following the SC’s sanctions issued on 11 December 2018. The sanctions relate to false or misleading information contained in AHB’s Private Placement Memorandum dated 8 September 2015 and Private Placement Memorandum dated 5 January 2018 (collectively referred to as PPM 2015 and 2018).
In addition to the corrective disclosures, AHB has also issued an unconditional redemption offer to all investors who have subscribed to the private placements based on PPM 2015 and 2018.

The corrective disclosures and the unconditional redemption offer can now be accessed at AHB’s website. According to the information provided on the website, a total amount of RM814 million was raised from PPM 2015 and 2018. The website also mentions that subscribers are given 21 days from 1 April to submit their application for the unconditional redemption, if they wish to do so.

Subscribers who are unsure about their option or rights with regards to this matter are advised to seek professional financial advice.

Till today no public disclosure yet on its final audited accounts doh.gif

 

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