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post Dec 24 2008, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 23 2008, 09:47 PM)
isn't a good sign AXREIT stay firm at 1.00 (and above) biggrin.gif
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It is a dilemma actually for somebody that holding it while still wish to buy more.

On one hand, wish to see its price is firm and stay there strongly. Nobody wants to see the price dropping even for the like long term investors, even though don't quite be bothered about it.
On one hand, wish it to drop lower so that newer buying price will chalk up good yield.

Kind of contradict, isn't it. biggrin.gif
Never mind, human is always like that. tongue.gif
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post Dec 24 2008, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 24 2008, 10:32 AM)
yah, humans are full of contradictions.

however, look at the positive sides lor,

- you see a supporting level,
- you manage to grab at the bottom price,
- 7 sens DPU is in your pocket already
- chances of price appreciation is higher

hey, it is xmas eve, let's be cheerful biggrin.gif
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Merry X'mas.

Holiday season coming out for until next year.
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post Dec 26 2008, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Dec 26 2008, 10:29 AM)
AXREIT running away!!!

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Sellers finished their stock.

Santa gives you some present mah.
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post Dec 26 2008, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Dec 26 2008, 11:50 AM)
I only got 1 intention. I'm only going to buy, i'm not going to sell until maybe 10 years from now..hahaha
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If the DPU stays at 15 cents for 10 years, then don't need to sell at all. cool2.gif
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post Dec 26 2008, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(PBB boleh @ Dec 26 2008, 01:48 PM)
Actually for this counter I would like to hold also, but when see profit more than 5% in less than a month, cannot tahan, must take some off the table. Will sell off rest if another 5% increase, and buy back if drop back below 1.05.
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You take peanut, I wait for bigger banana after Feb. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 26 2008, 04:09 PM

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Since Axreit has risen, so temporary won't buy anymore, next target for reit personally would eye now would be Tower reit. 5 cents DPU will be coming out as same time as Axreit. Another 10+% yield stock if nothing goes wrong.
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post Dec 30 2008, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Dec 30 2008, 02:32 PM)
why neo? u din get any when 1
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Neo 'sapu' a lot already, my guess he owns not less than 500 lots of it. rolleyes.gif

Just he may be wanting more. whistling.gif
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post Dec 30 2008, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Dec 30 2008, 03:12 PM)
today i super boring, bought sapura crest @ 0.76 for fun!!!


Added on December 30, 2008, 3:17 pm

i dont know bout all this lot thing la.. to be exact i got 98,800 unit @ average price of RM1.35
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then it is 988 lots. Nice figure, 'fat fat' biggrin.gif
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post Jan 5 2009, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 5 2009, 01:16 PM)
when is the ex div for axreit?
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Only by Feb, will know, need to wait they announce the financial report which generally will be released in around Feb.

Ex-date for div (or more precise DPU) generally won't later than end of March.

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post Jan 5 2009, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 5 2009, 07:32 PM)
Anybody knows why ARREIT dropped so much?  hmm.gif
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Arreit liquidity is low, and seldom being traded at all. So even 1 lot can swing the price greatly, as there is large gap between buy and seller most of the time.
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post Jan 9 2009, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(smartly @ Jan 9 2009, 03:27 PM)
Axreit income distribution is sometime around this month.
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They will annouce the financial result on 22 Jan. While ex-date generally around mid to end of Feb.
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post Jan 10 2009, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Jan 10 2009, 02:25 PM)
yep...dunno who d heck is that...  shakehead.gif
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There is report some forumers posted, that funds are existing particularly foreign one.

There are lot of fund houses are holding this stock range from various insurance funds, UT fund to Valuecap etc.

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post Jan 12 2009, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(hocklai8 @ Jan 12 2009, 09:35 AM)
Just wondering if all the REIT investors (or soon to be) here realised the other side of REIT as highlighted in theStar REIT's High Yield And Risk.

I think there's a point there for us to ponder upon where our Malaysian REIT will be few years down the road especially if all our REIT income (90%+) is being redistributed back as dividend. Besides what has been highlighted in theStar article such as high debt ratio and lack to funds set aside to service the loans made to acquire new properties, I do have some additional points... As the current properties in the REIT's portfolios are still relative new, it should be alright. But what happens say... 5-10 years later. Some properties do need to be refurbish, renovated or some major uplift of facilities in order to stay competitive in the rental market. Where are the fund managers going to get the funds besides diluting our REIT shares with new units issued? Or increasing their debt ratio?
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Gearing is mostly in the region of 20~30% for most, as SC guideline on Reit is that they can't have more than 50% gearing.
Refurbishing and uplift facility cost are spents on every year which can see from the annual report as a term of uplifting expenses which already affected the profit in the first place.

So at those gearing ratio, don't think until it is not manageable. Unless need to spend big for the major overhaul of the whole building.
Yes, no doubt, those listed issues are the risk involved.

But at 10%+ yield for some reit (provided it doesn't drop too much in the near future, as some slowdown effect will be felt by reit as well), it is quite an attraction, also most reit are trading at least 30% discount to its NAV at current pricing.
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post Jan 12 2009, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Jan 12 2009, 11:18 AM)
Debt/ Equity ratio of more than 50% might be bad, but it still down to the terms of the debt, if the debts are long term, not that serious, but short term one more dangerous.
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They cannot be more than 50% in the first place, which is the SC guideline and regulation imposed by SC.
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post Jan 12 2009, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(hocklai8 @ Jan 12 2009, 03:09 PM)
So... based on theStar article, it seems like Axis and Hektar has more than 50% debt/equity ratio. So shouldn't SC be knocking on the REIT manager's door to get them to reduce it to below 50% soon?
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Hektar, I don't follow Hekar, so don't know.

Axreit, it is about 30~40% gearing before the proposed private placement, if not mistaken.

Axreit financial report is available on its website, so can calculate its debt/equity ratio easily.

Oppss, my mistake you are mentioning debt/equit, not the overall gearing.

The reit guideline is about below 50% gearing, not debt/equity.

Their debt/equity is more than 50%, as Axreit lastest Q has 200+ million borrowing and they have abuot 255 millions share issued. Total asset owned is 600+ millions, so gearing is about 30~40%.

Yes, just like you mention earlier, some dilution will occur as they are proposing 120 millions private placement. But those private placement will able to reduce the interest expenses on the borrowing, so it is not that bad. At one side EPS being diluted, while on other side, total earning might be increase due to lesser interest expenses.

It is better those private placement being or able to be placed out to reduce the borrowing.

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post Jan 12 2009, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Jan 12 2009, 03:51 PM)
Gearing of 50% can allow maximum debt/equity ration of 1:1 (or 100%), if all the debts are non current. Then even 71% still within the guideline.  tongue.gif
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Yup, my mistake on my previous post. notworthy.gif


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post Jan 19 2009, 04:49 PM

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UOAreit is giving out 5.5 cents, which is the first to release financial report in reit sector.
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post Jan 20 2009, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 20 2009, 04:15 PM)
neo everyday reits
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Because the more he buys, the more he gain through the differentiate between BLR or his margin interest and the yield reit is paying (which is more than 10% in most reit right now), provided reit yield doesn't drop below the margin intereset.

It is actually similar you bought a house and rent it out, while the tenants are actually paying your housing loan while still getting extra positive cashflow out of rental collected.
So as long as yield is above the loan interest, then everything looks ok.
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post Jan 20 2009, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Jan 20 2009, 04:55 PM)
ya ya. Heard Bank Negara might cut intest rate again these 2 days!!! yahoo!!!
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It is widely expected to cut 0.25%. Although some speculate 0.5% and chance is there, still view it has about 20% chance only. But in longer term, BLR expected to go to 6% or below it.

QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 20 2009, 05:07 PM)
any info on UOAREIT ?
why ppl still wanan sell axreit at 1.21/2 now? why dont keep after the div announcement made later? whereby the price should go up by then?
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What info do you want? biggrin.gif

DPU is 5.5 cents, 4 cents taxable + 1.5cents TE.

EPS lastest Q is 2.90. NAV is around 1.38.
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post Jan 21 2009, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 20 2009, 10:46 PM)
You loan how much? what is the interest rate offered to you? Can loan for buying share?
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Every bank got share margin facilities which is widely and easy available.

But I don't recommend it. Only for those knowing the risk of it and willing to take those risk.

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