wonder if anyone has done battery heat shield for their cars.
any good suggestion/material?
battery heat shield
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Jun 20 2019, 02:17 PM, updated 7y ago
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wonder if anyone has done battery heat shield for their cars.
any good suggestion/material? |
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Jun 20 2019, 02:22 PM
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I think this is something that is not practical. Shield from what? Engine heat. The whole engine space chamber is already hot, how to shield. If you put battery in an enclosure, the battery itself generate heat
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Jun 20 2019, 02:24 PM
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Ayam usually open the car bonnet and left it that way for hours after arrived home to cool down the engine compartment.
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Jun 20 2019, 02:30 PM
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batteries get hot more from charging than ambient heating , so better let battery breathe than insulate the heat in
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Jun 20 2019, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 20 2019, 02:22 PM) I think this is something that is not practical. Shield from what? Engine heat. The whole engine space chamber is already hot, how to shield. If you put battery in an enclosure, the battery itself generate heat i'm not sure if you notice, new models car, nowadays do come with battery heat shield.you will be surprised, with this heat shield, there's really no heat on the battery. |
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Jun 20 2019, 04:21 PM
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Jun 20 2019, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 20 2019, 02:22 PM) I think this is something that is not practical. Shield from what? Engine heat. The whole engine space chamber is already hot, how to shield. If you put battery in an enclosure, the battery itself generate heat Someone said their Merz (i think) battery at rear bonet, claim can tahan longer because engine hot make the batt faster rosak.QUOTE(kurty @ Jun 20 2019, 04:09 PM) i'm not sure if you notice, new models car, nowadays do come with battery heat shield. which car exactly?you will be surprised, with this heat shield, there's really no heat on the battery. |
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Jun 20 2019, 04:50 PM
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Jun 20 2019, 05:12 PM
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Just the normal cheap car heat insulation that you can tape on can already.
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Jun 20 2019, 05:46 PM
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Jun 20 2019, 06:45 PM
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Jun 21 2019, 07:32 AM
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Jun 21 2019, 08:10 AM
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Jun 21 2019, 09:17 AM
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Jun 21 2019, 09:18 AM
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Jun 21 2019, 09:19 AM
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Jun 21 2019, 09:35 AM
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Jun 21 2019, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jun 21 2019, 08:10 AM) its insulation. works like ac hose insulation. acts like a barrier either keeps the heat out or in. the air gaps in the material reduce heat transfer through conduction. Thats why the thermos (those drinking flasks) has 2 mostly separate walls (good ones have a vacuum, cheap ones air). Same reason we apply thermal paste on processors, we want as much contact between the proc lid and the heatsink.This post has been edited by lsm1991: Jun 21 2019, 09:46 AM |
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Jun 21 2019, 11:16 AM
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Quite polarising opinions on this, some swear that the insulation works, some say no difference. But thinking towards financial side, car makes always find ways to eke an extra cent of profit here and there. And if can save one part out of the assembly line, that is one part cost saved and overhead cost saved during assembly. So there should be some reasoning that the car battery has to wear "clothing", whether as heat insulator or sound damping purpose.
But the main determinant towards battery life is usually driving conditions, more cruising = more battery life. Also, due to the environment the individual car is subjected with, even the same brand of battery on the same car (assuming same battery quality), could have different battery life. Very hard to determine just based on the insulator existence. This post has been edited by wkc5657: Jun 21 2019, 11:18 AM |
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Jun 21 2019, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jun 21 2019, 11:16 AM) Quite polarising opinions on this, some swear that the insulation works, some say no difference. But thinking towards financial side, car makes always find ways to eke an extra cent of profit here and there. And if can save one part out of the assembly line, that is one part cost saved and overhead cost saved during assembly. So there should be some reasoning that the car battery has to wear "clothing", whether as heat insulator or sound damping purpose. well said.But the main determinant towards battery life is usually driving conditions, more cruising = more battery life. Also, due to the environment the individual car is subjected with, even the same brand of battery on the same car (assuming same battery quality), could have different battery life. Very hard to determine just based on the insulator existence. i use to have those insulator bag, or some called it cooler bag. then i used it on my other car since i hardly drive it. dont ask me for review, the battery still ends up dying. got to charge it every few months |
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Jun 21 2019, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(kurty @ Jun 21 2019, 11:37 AM) well said. insulators are for "active" vehicles; those "passive" ones like your case mentioned above, insignificant in the grader scale of things. I would even say that it is detrimental to your fuel economy because of the added weight of the insulator i use to have those insulator bag, or some called it cooler bag. then i used it on my other car since i hardly drive it. dont ask me for review, the battery still ends up dying. got to charge it every few months |
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Jun 21 2019, 11:58 AM
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What if the "shield" is to protect against exploding or leaking battery? So the material can absorb acid that got leaked due to leakage at the side?
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Jun 21 2019, 04:01 PM
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Inspected a friend's Kelisa and you will never guess what happened. The unscrupulous battery reseller had the audacity to cut away the car's battery heat shield, thus exposing 2 other side of the battery to the engine bay's heat obviously without the owner's approval. I don't think the reseller will be getting any more business ! 😂
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Jun 21 2019, 06:01 PM
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BMW F30 3 series had their battery located at the car boot, and from what owners shared it lasted god damned long, with most never changed the battery once throughout their ownership of > 5 years.
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Jun 21 2019, 07:45 PM
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I don't want to second guess but I would like to share this with car fanatics. It's a practice of top battery dealers to incur cooling costs just to keep the batteries under the right temperature and I don't even accord myself such luxury of an air-conditioner. So that's it, I will leave your thoughts as to whether batteries located in the engine bay requires protective heat shield etc or otherwise. Have a great weekend. 😊
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Jun 21 2019, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Jun 21 2019, 11:58 AM) What if the "shield" is to protect against exploding or leaking battery? So the material can absorb acid that got leaked due to leakage at the side? No mate.The heat shield is nothing, exploding batteries has been documented destroying better quality made materials like battery boxes even and covering everything in acid. |
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Jun 21 2019, 10:34 PM
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Jun 24 2019, 11:46 AM
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like i said, a simple test.
just touch the battery with and without the shield, will able to tell a difference |
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Jul 6 2019, 02:06 PM
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Jul 6 2019, 10:25 PM
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well technically battery dont like heat, every little chance you have to isolate heat is a good thing.
btw those myvi battery stock battery cover is hollow, its just the corrugated plastic box with just the top part have the insulation |
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Jul 7 2019, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(budang @ Jun 21 2019, 06:01 PM) BMW F30 3 series had their battery located at the car boot, and from what owners shared it lasted god damned long, with most never changed the battery once throughout their ownership of > 5 years. May agree that the conti's that have their battery at the rear boot can last longer due to less heat to reach there but the battery used by these cars are AGM type which is not lead acid/maintenance free type therefore the lifespan for AGM battery aka deep cycle battery can last more than 3 years but in order to get it change, it can cost you some $$. |
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Aug 19 2019, 10:13 PM
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I've got these felt sheets about 5mm, it's a very good heat insulator and can withstand high temperature. Been reading about battery heat shield but lack of the tools to DIY it until my tools arrived. So using NS40ZL size I determined that it's 20cm X 13cm X 22cm (height) The connecting edge I use very thick paper clip to lock them up. Then I slit many cuts to fit battery mount, and to allow better terminal inlet. Tomorrow gonna drive it for like 20min, then will put my hands in between the felt sheet and battery to feel how warm is the battery. Attached thumbnail(s) hiphop liked this post
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Aug 19 2019, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 21 2019, 07:45 PM) I don't want to second guess but I would like to share this with car fanatics. It's a practice of top battery dealers to incur cooling costs just to keep the batteries under the right temperature and I don't even accord myself such luxury of an air-conditioner. So that's it, I will leave your thoughts as to whether batteries located in the engine bay requires protective heat shield etc or otherwise. Have a great weekend. 😊 Bro, check out my DIY heat shield for my 15year old car |
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Aug 19 2019, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Aug 19 2019, 10:15 PM) Bro, neat work there. However, I don't know about that particular material being used like wouldn't it be combustible after sometime ? Hopefully others can share their experiences if they have used such material. |
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Aug 19 2019, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Aug 19 2019, 10:26 PM) Bro, neat work there. However, I don't know about that particular material being used like wouldn't it be combustible after sometime ? Hopefully others can share their experiences if they have used such material. Erm, won't be combustible. Felt is hard to catch fire even if burn directly |
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Aug 19 2019, 10:48 PM
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Aug 20 2019, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Aug 19 2019, 10:48 PM) Even after the felt has turned aged, it is still not combustible ? I tested it on stove. I think for it to melt and burn, whatever plastic inside engine bay will also melt d.Then it is ok I guess. 👍 To longer lasting batteries. At those temperature fuse box plastic, connector plastic all burn d. If not mistaken felt is PET material. I did use the same felt for my sun roof heat shielding, it definitely works as a heat insulator |
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Aug 20 2019, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Aug 20 2019, 12:20 AM) I tested it on stove. I think for it to melt and burn, whatever plastic inside engine bay will also melt d. Now you have got my attention. 😊At those temperature fuse box plastic, connector plastic all burn d. If not mistaken felt is PET material. I did use the same felt for my sun roof heat shielding, it definitely works as a heat insulator This felt material is it water-proof too ? Able to prevent leakages in the roof to the ceilings ? Where did you place this felt between the rafter and the batten OR somewhere else in the roof ? By the way, what is the battery size ? |
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Feb 22 2020, 10:44 AM
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Anyone know where to buy this battery heat shield, want to fix in my car
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Korean cars came with it but if you upside your battery, then it become unable to fit. Upside from NS40 to NS60 and it wont fit.
I dont think it made any difference though, with or without it. I think Merc and BMW separation is for safety reason than anything else. |
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