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post Jun 17 2019, 11:53 AM, updated 5 months ago

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Hi, this is how my living room ceiling looks like, it's totally concrete and I don't wanna put plaster ceiling as it'll drop the ceiling lower.

I don't like how surface lights look like, so I am wondering if it is feasible for me to totally use track lighting as the only source of lighting for living room?

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or do you guys have a better suggestion for lighting? sweat.gif

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post Jun 17 2019, 12:00 PM

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The track light picture you show here looks like requiring plaster ceiling as well...
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QUOTE(kuntilanak @ Jun 17 2019, 12:00 PM)
The track light picture you show here looks like requiring plaster ceiling as well...
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I don't mind if the rails are not flat/buried inside the ceiling, if protruding out I would be okay with it. just that couldn't find a proper example sweat.gif


perhaps something like this?

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post Jun 17 2019, 12:11 PM

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well, all these are personal preference, so you do as you like lo... I just install all with standard (cheap) fluorescent light tubes... but mine only few wiring, unlike yours laugh.gif
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If u dont want the whole living room ceiling to be lowered by plaster ceiling, perhaps can consider cove lighting with plaster ceiling along the perimeter part only.

Personally, don't like non-recessed surface downlights for living room. Would prefer track lights if really don't want plaster ceiling.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Jun 17 2019, 12:19 PM)
If u dont want the whole living room ceiling to be lowered by plaster ceiling, perhaps can consider cove lighting with plaster ceiling along the perimeter part only.

Personally, don't like non-recessed surface downlights for living room. Would prefer track lights if really don't want plaster ceiling.
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hi bro, i'm having some trouble looking up for cove lighting, do you have any example photo on what you think would be suitable?


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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 17 2019, 12:21 PM)
hi bro, i'm having some trouble looking up for cove lighting, do you have any example photo on what you think would be suitable?
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Something like this..the light is concealed and shining onto the ceiling. The plaster ceiling width can be narrower than in the picture.




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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Jun 17 2019, 12:29 PM)
Something like this..the light is concealed and shining onto the ceiling. The plaster ceiling width can be narrower than in the picture.
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in your opinion how much do you think the rough costing would be? maybe i'll ask my contractor.. hmm.gif I think track lighting should be cheaper right? is it a lot cheaper? btw is my understanding on track light correct? basically can simply install any track light onto the rail anywhere? also does it require multiple lighting points?
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Jun 17 2019, 12:29 PM)
Something like this..the light is concealed and shining onto the ceiling. The plaster ceiling width can be narrower than in the picture.
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i prefer this, simpler and classy for all room, bed room, living.

tracklights are only for my gaming room.
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 17 2019, 12:34 PM)
in your opinion how much do you think the rough costing would be? maybe i'll ask my contractor..  hmm.gif  I think track lighting should be cheaper right? is it a lot cheaper? btw is my understanding on track light correct? basically can simply install any track light onto the rail anywhere? also does it require multiple lighting points?
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How much depends on how long u need that L-box plaster ceiling. Forgot what the rate is these days. But of course track lighting is a lot cheaper sweat.gif because no need for the plaster ceiling.

Yes, u can install as many lights along the rail as u prefer. Usually when u go lighting shop to buy track lights they can advise u how many u need depending on ur room size and ceiling height or what kind of ambience u want to achieve.
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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Jun 17 2019, 12:37 PM)
i prefer this, simpler and classy for all room, bed room, living.

tracklights are only for my gaming room.
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Me too. My preference in order would be cove, recessed surface downlights, track lights, non-recessed surface downlights biggrin.gif

But some people use those spot lighting to shine onto some feature walls, or walls with painting/art. Looks good too. But i dont have that kinda stuff. Lol
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Jun 17 2019, 12:43 PM)
Me too. My preference in order would be cove, recessed surface downlights, track lights, non-recessed surface downlights biggrin.gif

But some people use those spot lighting to shine onto some feature walls, or walls with painting/art. Looks good too. But i dont have that kinda stuff. Lol
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I guess i will get track light first, in years to come when I have the budget I'll do the cove thingy laugh.gif the thought of just having 4 non-recessed surface downlights makes me sweat, plus it would not be that bright.

Would like to ask, are all tracklights compatible with each other? coz I see on shopee people like buying a lot of track light bulbs but i don't know what's their track type. or is there like a code for different types?
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 17 2019, 12:46 PM)
I guess i will get track light first, in years to come when I have the budget I'll do the cove thingy  laugh.gif  the thought of just having 4 non-recessed surface downlights makes me sweat, plus it would not be that bright.

Would like to ask, are all tracklights compatible with each other? coz I see on shopee people like buying a lot of track light bulbs but i don't know what's their track type. or is there like a code for different types?
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Sorry can't help u, i'm not sure about compatibility. Didn't do much research about track lights due to my preference but only went to see my bro's track lights in his apartment laugh.gif
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 17 2019, 12:34 PM)
in your opinion how much do you think the rough costing would be? maybe i'll ask my contractor..  hmm.gif  I think track lighting should be cheaper right? is it a lot cheaper? btw is my understanding on track light correct? basically can simply install any track light onto the rail anywhere? also does it require multiple lighting points?
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afaik track lighting is not cheap
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Jun 17 2019, 12:43 PM)
Me too. My preference in order would be cove, recessed surface downlights, track lights, non-recessed surface downlights biggrin.gif

But some people use those spot lighting to shine onto some feature walls, or walls with painting/art. Looks good too. But i dont have that kinda stuff. Lol
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i have one for featured wall with painting, the spot like shine can highlight the dust that i didn't wipe for long time.
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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Jun 17 2019, 12:59 PM)
i have one for featured wall with painting, the spot like shine can highlight the dust that i didn't wipe for long time.
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Hahah. Gotta weigh the pros and cons then.
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My house just like u, no plan to put on plaster ceiling so I decided to install track light and surface LED downlight, not sure whether it is a right choice.
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QUOTE(yy714 @ Jun 17 2019, 02:30 PM)
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My house just like u, no plan to put on plaster ceiling so I decided to install track light and surface LED downlight, not sure whether it is a right choice.
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I must say your paint colour choice is on point icon_rolleyes.gif

as for lighting... well.. how do you feel about it? laugh.gif

my current plan is something like this

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 17 2019, 02:36 PM)
I must say your paint colour choice is on point  icon_rolleyes.gif

as for lighting... well.. how do you feel about it?  laugh.gif

my current plan is something like this

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I would said if u decided to put a lot of LED light on the track will be quite hot I guess because it work like spotlight.
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QUOTE(yy714 @ Jun 17 2019, 03:16 PM)
I would said if u decided to put a lot of LED light on the track will be quite hot I guess because it work like spotlight.
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LED track light also will be hot?
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one thing i noticed. no fan? nice yo aircond 24/7
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all lights will be hot due to energy transfer. consider the angle of the reflector, lumens and wattage when u are buying track light for optimal output for the purposes of your space.
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QUOTE(yy714 @ Jun 17 2019, 02:30 PM)
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My house just like u, no plan to put on plaster ceiling so I decided to install track light and surface LED downlight, not sure whether it is a right choice.
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Hi, sorry off topic but you have very color wall color. Mind to share what brand and model?
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Any type of track light will work on concrete ceiling. It is definitely feasible and easy to do
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QUOTE(squallyeo @ Jun 17 2019, 07:54 PM)
Hi, sorry off topic but you have very color wall color. Mind to share what brand and model?
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QUOTE(yy714 @ Jun 19 2019, 02:59 PM)
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The name of that green color?
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The name of that green color?
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PERSIAN BLUE BGG 1588 T


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track ligting wont have the issue of uneven light distribution?
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 17 2019, 02:36 PM)
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The centre wires has hooks for fan. You'll need to remove those, and rely on aircon only. Watch the electricity bill. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tantung @ Jul 1 2019, 06:21 PM)
The centre wires has hooks for fan. You'll need to remove those, and rely on aircon only. Watch the electricity bill.  tongue.gif
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general contractor gonna reposition the fan hooks and lighting points, i will elongate the rails and fit 2 fans inside the rectangle hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yy714 @ Jun 17 2019, 02:30 PM)
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My house just like u, no plan to put on plaster ceiling so I decided to install track light and surface LED downlight, not sure whether it is a right choice.
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I am going to copy your idea.. Your bedroom i using led downlight as well? Can u share lighting for your bedroom as well?
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Parking. Also thinking of getting track light + LED down light for living room as second option instead of plaster ceiling. Looking good guys.
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QUOTE(eighty7 @ Jul 2 2019, 10:41 AM)
I am going to copy your idea.. Your bedroom i using led downlight as well? Can u share lighting for your bedroom as well?
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My bedroom do have plaster ceiling so I just install those LED downlight suit for plaster ceiling, nothing fancy
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I use 7W track light . Pls take note that it is not advisable to put too many lights on the same track especially if they are high wattage one. Most selling in Lazada or Shopee are low quality, especially the track. Make sure you get a better quality one with full copper wire.
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QUOTE(reader @ Jul 12 2019, 11:27 PM)
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I use 7W track light .  Pls take note that it is not advisable to put too many lights on the same track especially if they are high wattage one.  Most selling in Lazada or Shopee are low quality, especially the track.  Make sure you get a better quality one with full copper wire.
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hey thanks for sharing your pic, could you tell me where should I go to for proper track lighting equipment?
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jul 13 2019, 01:17 AM)
hey thanks for sharing your pic, could you tell me where should I go to for proper track lighting equipment?
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Most local shops sells this brand called Rio but I find it not as good as this other Taiwan brand. I forgot the name but I bought it from lightcraft (which is now Deng Lighting) at Jalan Sungai Besi.

Tracks are solid and heavy. The lights itself is good but only one choice at that time I bought it. I have like 7-8 lights on one track. Being using for four years now
ok found the website - https://www.titanlight.com/product-category...g/track-system/

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 17 2019, 12:34 PM)
in your opinion how much do you think the rough costing would be? maybe i'll ask my contractor..  hmm.gif  I think track lighting should be cheaper right? is it a lot cheaper? btw is my understanding on track light correct? basically can simply install any track light onto the rail anywhere? also does it require multiple lighting points?
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the rail got maximum watt it can support, you need to check with the seller on this

QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 17 2019, 12:46 PM)
I guess i will get track light first, in years to come when I have the budget I'll do the cove thingy  laugh.gif  the thought of just having 4 non-recessed surface downlights makes me sweat, plus it would not be that bright.

Would like to ask, are all tracklights compatible with each other? coz I see on shopee people like buying a lot of track light bulbs but i don't know what's their track type. or is there like a code for different types?
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if you plan to renovate in future then it will cost a lot and you wont be able to stay in your house for few days for the plaster dust to settle

QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 17 2019, 02:36 PM)
I must say your paint colour choice is on point  icon_rolleyes.gif

as for lighting... well.. how do you feel about it?  laugh.gif

my current plan is something like this

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i think you can also install the rail closer to walls and what you gonna do with the extra wiring point?

for LED lightning, if you want to put more tracklights then go for low wattage and low lumen lights, if you plan to put less tracklights or LED spotlights, go for high watt high lumen

you can also get those tracklights with adjustable color temperature, brightness, zoom from china
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QUOTE(yy714 @ Jun 17 2019, 02:30 PM)
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My house just like u, no plan to put on plaster ceiling so I decided to install track light and surface LED downlight, not sure whether it is a right choice.
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Ur sirface Led light, how many Waltage?
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Ur sirface Led light, how many Waltage?
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How is it going now?

Mind share your finishing work as reference cause I am also planning if possible aviod plaster ceiling as not much budget in hand
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QUOTE(frey95 @ Oct 17 2019, 09:34 AM)
How is it going now?

Mind share your finishing work as reference cause I am also planning if possible aviod plaster ceiling as not much budget in hand
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Will get back to you, didn't do plaster. Hacked instead haha
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Oct 17 2019, 01:59 PM)
Will get back to you, didn't do plaster. Hacked instead haha
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Thanks. How much roughly you spend for it?

I was inform by one of the contractor said hacking is expensive. Ask me do plaster ceiling instead.
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QUOTE(frey95 @ Oct 17 2019, 03:39 PM)
Thanks. How much roughly you spend for it?

I was inform by one of the contractor said hacking is expensive. Ask me do plaster ceiling instead.
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i think the price of hacking is depends if its hack on concrete or bricks..if im not mistaken
and as well the distance to hack..

My contractor offered me free hacking and plastering cause the hack is just to move my point to further distance..
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QUOTE(yy714 @ Oct 17 2019, 08:36 AM)
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Wow, one living hall quite big...

One 24 watt light and track light already manage to light up ur livimg hall?
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QUOTE(frey95 @ Oct 17 2019, 03:39 PM)
Thanks. How much roughly you spend for it?

I was inform by one of the contractor said hacking is expensive. Ask me do plaster ceiling instead.
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QUOTE(kokwei1125 @ Oct 17 2019, 03:42 PM)
i think the price of hacking is depends if its hack on concrete or bricks..if im not mistaken
and as well the distance to hack..

My contractor offered me free hacking and plastering cause the hack is just to move my point to further distance..
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my con didn't charge for hacking... just charge on installing light (RM35) and concealing back (nearly RM2k lump sum for whole house) 'coz consider major project


the reason they ask u do plaster is coz margin a hundred times higher and less back-breaking than hacking.

I will have total 8 unit 36W remote control surface light in my living room. Already test the exact same lights at gf house, 8 is the correct number.

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Oct 17 2019, 04:04 PM)
my con didn't charge for hacking... just charge on installing light (RM35) and concealing back (nearly RM2k lump sum for whole house) 'coz consider major project
the reason they ask u do plaster is coz margin a hundred times higher and less back-breaking than hacking.

I will have total 8 unit 36W remote control surface light in my living room. Already test the exact same lights at gf house, 8 is the correct number.

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Wow great!! Is the contractor work finishing OK? Can message me your contractor contact? I might look for them also.

So the light arrangement you design your own and buy your own and ask them install?

Hope to see your finishing product soon^^
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QUOTE(frey95 @ Oct 17 2019, 04:30 PM)
Wow great!! Is the contractor work finishing OK? Can message me your contractor contact? I might look for them also.

So the light arrangement you design your own and buy your own and ask them install?

Hope to see your finishing product soon^^
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today finish patch concrete + skim coat + sanding + jotaplast interior. Really cannot see any difference, so I guess the workmanship is good.

Haven't install lights. Arrangement I designed my ownself but contractor and electrician both gave their opinions as well, which I followed. Bought lights from a shop in the same row as Houses Lightings (surface lights from Houses Lightings quite limited and dated choices). They will install since the RM25 cost of hacking per light includes installing as well. Will only fwd contact once everything done ya.

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Oct 25 2019, 08:48 PM)
today finish patch concrete + skim coat + sanding + jotaplast interior. Really cannot see any difference, so I guess the workmanship is good.

Haven't install lights. Arrangement I designed my ownself but contractor and electrician both gave their opinions as well, which I followed. Bought lights from a shop in the same row as Houses Lightings (surface lights from Houses Lightings quite limited and dated choices). They will install since the RM25 cost of hacking per light includes installing as well. Will only fwd contact once everything done ya.

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Wow...Most scare is the difference too obvious after cover. That great your contractor can do it well.

No problem. Hope to see your finishing also. Thanks for the sharing.
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QUOTE(frey95 @ Oct 26 2019, 05:46 PM)
Wow...Most scare is the difference too obvious after cover. That great your contractor can do it well.

No problem. Hope to see your finishing also. Thanks for the sharing.
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Actually from what I've seen, it's fairly easy to get back the same look as the original. All you need to do is patch back concrete, put skim coat on top, then do sanding, contractor even joked with me, sanding work usually give to the least intelligent worker also won't screw up one... lol
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Oct 26 2019, 09:18 PM)
Actually from what I've seen, it's fairly easy to get back the same look as the original. All you need to do is patch back concrete, put skim coat on top, then do sanding, contractor even joked with me, sanding work usually give to the least intelligent worker also won't screw up one... lol
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Haha. Alright wait for your completion and recommendation on the contractor.
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I will have total 8 unit 36W remote control surface light in my living room. Already test the exact same lights at gf house, 8 is the correct number.

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