Check out the link below....guess it wont be long before more news on penryn leaks out.
http://www.hardspell.com/doc/hardware/38462_page20008.html
Penryn's coming...
Penryn's coming...
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Jun 26 2007, 05:17 PM, updated 19y ago
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Check out the link below....guess it wont be long before more news on penryn leaks out.
http://www.hardspell.com/doc/hardware/38462_page20008.html |
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Jun 26 2007, 06:03 PM
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Haven't seen any news from any of the reliable websites yet, but logically, it should not be too long already...
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Jun 26 2007, 06:24 PM
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really!? can't wait to c how it will perform
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Jun 26 2007, 06:58 PM
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6MB cache really preform alot speed 2.66GHz can superpi 14.1xx sec not bad
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well i will be patient enough till penryn becomes more cheaper then i buy lor
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hope come out before october le...
after exam I maybe want buy 1 new rig liao This post has been edited by Lemmings: Jun 26 2007, 07:07 PM |
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penryn,ddr3
i hope the price will decrease in <1 year |
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Jun 26 2007, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(BurgerRI @ Jun 26 2007, 05:17 PM) Check out the link below....guess it wont be long before more news on penryn leaks out. http://www.hardspell.com/doc/hardware/38462_page20008.html |
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Jun 26 2007, 11:53 PM
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The increased cache doesn't make THAT big a difference really. There are quite a few other changes besides just the cache, if you have been following.
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Jul 30 2007, 01:05 AM
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gah, i hate it when im in a dillemma, get now or wait, get now or wait! (i know alot of you guys will say you cant wait in thsi game)
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 30 2007, 01:05 AM) nothing to drool on if there are no numbers to show its performance increase from existing core arch line up. well, i remain doubt to see any performance benefits penryn over conroe, other than gaming and other cache intensive apps (and apps which can utilize SSE4). even so, the performance increase wont b much either. the only thing that is so hot about penryn is its ability to clock higher. |
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Jul 30 2007, 08:54 AM
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Anyone can confirm this? I read from dailytech and found out that Penryn is for mobile while wolfdale if for dual core and yorkfiled is for quad core. So, actually we are not waiting for mobile parts right?
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Jul 30 2007, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 30 2007, 08:54 AM) Anyone can confirm this? I read from dailytech and found out that Penryn is for mobile while wolfdale if for dual core and yorkfiled is for quad core. So, actually we are not waiting for mobile parts right? Nope. Penryn is the whole 45nm package - the Penryn family of new processors. This includes the dual-core version (wolfdale) and the quad-core version (yorkfield).... |
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stick to my own core 2 duo first...
later only change to quad.... oh yeah , they only use P35 mobo... if they test on X38 mobo... what would the oc result be? |
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Jul 30 2007, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Jul 30 2007, 09:09 AM) stick to my own core 2 duo first... i dont think u can get a penryn processor and just put it on ur existing mobo. im nt really sure about this, but from what i read over the past few months, penryn need a new mobo to support as its voltage requirement is different from conroe.later only change to quad.... oh yeah , they only use P35 mobo... if they test on X38 mobo... what would the oc result be? |
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Jul 30 2007, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Jul 30 2007, 09:25 AM) i dont think u can get a penryn processor and just put it on ur existing mobo. im nt really sure about this, but from what i read over the past few months, penryn need a new mobo to support as its voltage requirement is different from conroe. Apparently, the Penryn family requires a VRM 11.0 compliant mobo, which requires a 12-phase power regulation. The P35-DQ6 IS a 12-phase mobo. Mobo's like the P35-DS3 is only 6-phase....However, this remains to be seen as all P35 are supposed to support Intel's next generation 45nm CPUs...... |
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Jul 30 2007, 11:12 AM
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Bios update the most likely solution IMO, or not looking back at the requirements
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Some mobo maker like asus maybe will enable their 965P mobo to support Penryn. Maybe some modification on low level programming will enables them.
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Jul 30 2007, 04:04 PM
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VRM11.0 not necessarily need 12 phase voltage. Penryn, IMHO, just a 45nm proc with SSE4 and added cache. is't? if clockspeed start from 3Ghz, i'm going to get it lol
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Jul 30 2007, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Jul 30 2007, 04:04 PM) VRM11.0 not necessarily need 12 phase voltage. Penryn, IMHO, just a 45nm proc with SSE4 and added cache. is't? if clockspeed start from 3Ghz, i'm going to get it lol QUOTE "Motherboard developers will have to make some minor changes to support [Penryn]. We can't guarantee that a person could just plug the chip into every motherboard on the market today." taken from dailytech this will hurt intel's sales a bit, ppl are reluctant to change a new mobo just to get a new cpu than just getting a new cpu and plug in on their existing mobo. and this will further hurt intel's sales if K10 perform as what amd claim. by changing to a new mobo and cpu, ppl might just opt for better performing platform. |
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haiz u all make me sad..... i just burn my motherboard wan to buy mobo ram n cpu....dis will make me dizzy... whether to wait or buy... arghhhh can't stand dis anymore........
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Jul 30 2007, 04:19 PM) taken from dailytech I do hope current P35 mobo's can support penryn.this will hurt intel's sales a bit, ppl are reluctant to change a new mobo just to get a new cpu than just getting a new cpu and plug in on their existing mobo. and this will further hurt intel's sales if K10 perform as what amd claim. by changing to a new mobo and cpu, ppl might just opt for better performing platform. Very controversial issue. See some quotes below from certain sources. I guess we just have to wait for penryn to come out! QUOTE 45 nm (Penryn) processors: Penryn processors use the current VRM 11.0. So in principle any motherboard supporting FSB 1333 processors should support Penryn processors too with BIOS updates. In fact all the P35/G33 motherboards and all the nForce 600i Series motherboards (according to NVIDIA) supports them. However it is unclear if P965/975X/945GC motherboards support them. QUOTE It needs to be VRM 11.0 compliant, which is key when it comes to 45-nm processor support. Let me say that the problem isn't decreasing voltage levels, but strong power fluctuation due to millions of transistors clocking up and down, or switching on and off. Remember that future quad-core processors will be able to dynamically adjust clock speeds for each core individually, and switch cores on and off depending on the workload. This also means that any 965 motherboard that is VRM 11 compliant can technically support 45-nm processors. VRM 11 says that the circuit is programmed using 8-bit voltage IDs (VID), allowing for 0.00625 V voltage increments. The minimum operating voltage isn't 0.8375 V (as in VRM 10), but goes down all the way to 0.5 V. VRM 11 also comes with the option to share the load across more phases, and the circuit runs so-called dual edge modulation, which means that the controllers send multiple impulses to the transistors while using smaller capacitors. The goal isn't just to provide smaller voltage increments and less voltage for the 45-nm processor generation, but also to provide sufficient power at voltage levels that may switch frequently. This can be done by specifying tight slew rates. |
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