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post Jun 3 2019, 03:49 PM, updated 7y ago

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My new addiction is Honey. I take a spoon everyday.

but I don't know if my honey is Pure. bought capilano brand. the water test seems ok. haven't try any other test
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post Jun 3 2019, 03:49 PM

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lol most honey sold here are either fake honey or not pure one
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somesay semut dont like pure honey
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QUOTE(bhuncet @ Jun 3 2019, 03:51 PM)
somesay semut dont like pure honey
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this. pure honey semut wont come
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Isn't Capilano proven to be artificial? There was a scandal a few years ago.
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1) check if got expiry date. if got means not pure honey. might even be honey flavored syrup instead blink.gif
2) fungus doesnt grow even if left at room temperature for long2 time
3) when left for long time it will crystalize. just soak container for few min in warm water will melt it back
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honey never expires. it is one of the prep food in case of zombie apocalypse or WW3
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post Jun 3 2019, 04:17 PM

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So far those test doesn't seems reliable.

only send to lab
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post Jun 3 2019, 04:18 PM

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gua beli manuka honey. few hundred ringgit for 250g.

but i sense they kencing me as real honey.


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post Jun 3 2019, 04:23 PM

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The one way I use to identify honey is to let it set and see if it has that beehive shape. The hexagon shape

You can fake a lot of things, you can't fake a honey's natural structure.

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post Jun 3 2019, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 3 2019, 04:23 PM)
The one way I use to identify honey is to let it set and see if it has that beehive shape. The hexagon shape

You can fake a lot of things, you can't fake a honey's natural structure.
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I read about this as well but it turns out a lot can do the same
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post Jun 3 2019, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Al3x0174 @ Jun 3 2019, 03:49 PM)
My new addiction is Honey. I take a spoon everyday.

but I don't know if my honey is Pure. bought capilano brand. the water test seems ok. haven't try any other test
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U addicted to sugar not honey, capilano brand u youtubr it up many yr ago aus tv station expose them fake honey. Another myth about honey cannot use steel spoon is total bs, go any factory u can see all steel.
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post Jun 3 2019, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Pichu00 @ Jun 3 2019, 04:31 PM)
U addicted to sugar not honey,  capilano brand u youtubr it up many yr ago aus tv station expose them fake honey. Another myth about honey cannot use steel spoon is total bs,  go any factory u can see all steel.
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I don't like sugary stuffs. just the taste of honey. but not crazy addict. just one spoon a day
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post Jun 3 2019, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Al3x0174 @ Jun 3 2019, 04:30 PM)
I read about this as well but it turns out a lot can do the same
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I dont know if others can replicate perfect hexagon shapes, I once went to a honey farm, the harvesters told me one method to identify which is this. I went back to test out with the honey I bought. The hexagon shapes were exactly the same size. I see also surprised.
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post Jun 3 2019, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 3 2019, 04:39 PM)
I dont know if others can replicate perfect hexagon shapes, I once went to a honey farm, the harvesters told me one method to identify which is this. I went back to test out with the honey I bought. The hexagon shapes were exactly the same size. I see also surprised.
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you mean the test where you put honey in a bowl then add water and swirl around? its proven that a few other liquid can be hexagon as well. its call water dynamic I think
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capalino honey taste weird af
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post Jun 3 2019, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Al3x0174 @ Jun 3 2019, 03:49 PM)
My new addiction is Honey. I take a spoon everyday.

but I don't know if my honey is Pure. bought capilano brand. the water test seems ok. haven't try any other test
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It's sugar.
Better drink sawit
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post Jun 3 2019, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Al3x0174 @ Jun 3 2019, 03:49 PM)
My new addiction is Honey. I take a spoon everyday.

but I don't know if my honey is Pure. bought capilano brand. the water test seems ok. haven't try any other test
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how much u bought?
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post Jun 3 2019, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(keluarpattern @ Jun 3 2019, 04:43 PM)
how much u bought?
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a bottle of 750g
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QUOTE(Al3x0174 @ Jun 3 2019, 04:41 PM)
you mean the test where you put honey in a bowl then add water and swirl around? its proven that a few other liquid can be hexagon as well. its call water dynamic I think
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No, no water. I just tilt the pure honey in the jar, I could see the the hexagon shapes like a honey comb as the honey was flowing.
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post Jun 3 2019, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 3 2019, 04:44 PM)
No, no water. I just tilt the pure honey in the jar, I could see the the hexagon shapes like a honey comb as the honey was flowing.
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ok. will try that
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QUOTE(Al3x0174 @ Jun 3 2019, 04:44 PM)
a bottle of 750g
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no berapa ringgit ur honey?
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panjat pokok potong sendiri confirm ori



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QUOTE(Al3x0174 @ Jun 3 2019, 03:49 PM)
My new addiction is Honey. I take a spoon everyday.

but I don't know if my honey is Pure. bought capilano brand. the water test seems ok. haven't try any other test
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Capilano is too fake.
Dont take that
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QUOTE(bhuncet @ Jun 3 2019, 03:51 PM)
somesay semut dont like pure honey
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QUOTE(Jin_Kecik @ Jun 3 2019, 04:02 PM)
this.  pure honey semut wont come
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Not true anymore, exposed honey to air will have moisture which will attract ants
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QUOTE(keluarpattern @ Jun 3 2019, 04:49 PM)
no berapa ringgit ur honey?
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RM35

QUOTE(Docile @ Jun 3 2019, 04:55 PM)
Capilano is too fake.
Dont take that
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Ok. Noted. use for BBQ chicken
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post Jun 3 2019, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Al3x0174 @ Jun 3 2019, 04:58 PM)
RM35
Ok. Noted. use for BBQ chicken
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that low..
mcm fake..
real honey expensive woi..
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 3 2019, 04:23 PM)
The one way I use to identify honey is to let it set and see if it has that beehive shape. The hexagon shape

You can fake a lot of things, you can't fake a honey's natural structure.
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can eloborate more on this? dont think i've heard this one before

QUOTE(Pichu00 @ Jun 3 2019, 04:31 PM)
U addicted to sugar not honey,  capilano brand u youtubr it up many yr ago aus tv station expose them fake honey. Another myth about honey cannot use steel spoon is total bs,  go any factory u can see all steel.
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dont think i've heard cannot use steel to scoop honey b4. can share more info?

QUOTE(keluarpattern @ Jun 3 2019, 05:35 PM)
that low..
mcm fake..
real honey expensive woi..
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last time i bough honey supposedly made with durian flower. it did have that durian flower flavor and it did last me for about 8 years. i just kept it in kitchen and use it every now and then. never went bad but did crystalize overtime which a simple soak in warm water fixes it.
cost me 20-30 rm for a 1kg container laugh.gif
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Erm so honey yg jual kt pasar tani dalam botol kaca kecik RM70 tu boleh percaya ka tu madu asli 🤔
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I once had fake honey in my home and I get to observe it side by side with pure honey.

Not really fake la, but my mom believes that the fake one was honey adulterated with sugar water.

After storing them for like 3 months later, the pure honey crystallized and has white residue at the bottom of the jar. Fake one doesn't.
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QUOTE(TimesOfTrouble @ Jun 3 2019, 06:13 PM)
I once had fake honey in my home and I get to observe it side by side with pure honey.

Not really fake la, but my mom believes that the fake one was honey adulterated with sugar water.

After storing them for like 3 months later, the pure honey crystallized and has white residue at the bottom of the jar. Fake one doesn't.
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not necessarily fake but could have been filtered so finely that arent any pollen in it. no foreign matter = no catalyst to start crystalization.
just a possibility. it could very well be a fake too laugh.gif
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QUOTE(LowKeras @ Jun 3 2019, 04:18 PM)
gua beli manuka honey. few hundred ringgit for 250g.

but i sense they kencing me as real honey.
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I had those before, those were really delicious man. And yea they are usually that expensive, I'd suggest you try all the reputable brands because their texture and taste does not differ much from brand to brand. Manuka honey has a complex taste profile and texture to it you just know if it's fking Manuka honey when you taste them, can't escape.

Chances are that you might be having adulterated Manuka honey, because nobody can fake it's taste other than diluting it with sugar syrup.
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I only buy manuka health brand.

Can get from watson or guardian.
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QUOTE(bumpo @ Jun 3 2019, 06:05 PM)
can eloborate more on this? dont think i've heard this one before
dont think i've heard cannot use steel to scoop honey b4. can share more info?
last time i bough honey supposedly made with durian flower. it did have that durian flower flavor and it did last me for about 8 years. i just kept it in kitchen and use it every now and then. never went bad but did crystalize overtime which a simple soak in warm water fixes it.
cost me 20-30 rm for a 1kg container  laugh.gif
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Youtube it business insider or some thing did a video on manuka honey whole facility steel. My own end when i went woofing at nz 2 week i stay at a farm that got produce honey totally stainless steel set up.
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QUOTE(viole @ Jun 3 2019, 06:31 PM)
I only buy manuka health brand.

Can get from watson or guardian.
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Good luck with fake product, most likely is a blend
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QUOTE(Pichu00 @ Jun 3 2019, 06:37 PM)
Good luck with fake product,  most likely  is a blend
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Nahh i trust nz factory. Its certified by manuka association. Should be better than other honey.

If this is not ori, means all honey not ori.
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QUOTE(gingerrobot @ Jun 3 2019, 06:13 PM)
Erm so honey yg jual kt pasar tani dalam botol kaca kecik RM70 tu boleh percaya ka tu madu asli 🤔
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pasar tani tarak trusted one..becuz no system monitoring them
mana tahu apa dia olang campur..
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Manuka honey also got a lot of fake. Real one should be available in New Zealand manuka honey website, with their ratings.
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There are two quite good ways of determining if a honey is fake or not.
1. Buy directly from beekeeper/gatherer
2. Check ingredients and buy from trusted manufacturer.

Most other tricks don't work or give alot of false positives.
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beware,now fake one they put ant poison inside
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QUOTE(PATAR @ Jun 3 2019, 06:51 PM)
There are two quite good ways of determining if a honey is fake or not.
1. Buy directly from beekeeper/gatherer
2. Check ingredients and buy from trusted manufacturer.

Most other tricks don't work or give alot of false positives.
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QUOTE(bumpo @ Jun 3 2019, 06:05 PM)
can eloborate more on this? dont think i've heard this one before
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Nothing fancy, I remember doing it with some honey I bought straight from a farm in Korea years ago. The harvester said just watch the honey set, and you'll be able to see honeycomb shapes.

I put some honey into a glass, and..... Honeycomb shapes

I didn't even add water, it was just honey
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QUOTE(urnicksux2 @ Jun 3 2019, 06:55 PM)
beware,now fake one they put ant poison inside
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why ant poison
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QUOTE(viole @ Jun 3 2019, 06:40 PM)
Nahh i trust nz factory. Its certified by manuka association. Should be better than other honey.

If this is not ori, means all honey not ori.
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The nz honey association kata 10 ton per yr only but got 100 ton manuka honey export out nz go figure.
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Nz manuka honey I only go for comvita brand. Intro by locals there.
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QUOTE(Pichu00 @ Jun 3 2019, 07:48 PM)
The nz honey association kata 10 ton per yr only but got 100 ton manuka honey export out nz go figure.
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The 10 ton is only for registered brand right? 100 ton includes those non registered i guess.
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QUOTE(Pichu00 @ Jun 3 2019, 07:48 PM)
The nz honey association kata 10 ton per yr only but got 100 ton manuka honey export out nz go figure.
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Another scenario

In 1 kg packaging =10% manuka honey + 90% other honey
Labelling : real manuka honey
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QUOTE(TimesOfTrouble @ Jun 3 2019, 12:23 AM)
I had those before, those were really delicious man. And yea they are usually that expensive, I'd suggest you try all the reputable brands because their texture and taste does not differ much from brand to brand. Manuka honey has a complex taste profile and texture to it you just know if it's fking Manuka honey when you taste them, can't escape.

Chances are that you might be having adulterated Manuka honey, because nobody can fake it's taste other than diluting it with sugar syrup.
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I not sure, i buy from eu yan sang, say good for building antibodi or so. Not too sweet if compare tepi jalan honey. Bit like flowery taste. Yeah quite diff.
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QUOTE(viole @ Jun 3 2019, 07:50 PM)
The 10 ton is only for registered brand right? 100 ton includes those non registered i guess.
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Manuka honey is control one like kiwi control by nz glc what yr saying is nonsense .
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QUOTE(Pichu00 @ Jun 3 2019, 08:44 PM)
Manuka honey is control one like kiwi control by nz  glc what yr saying is nonsense .
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Got manuka brand not registered also.
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QUOTE(proton_man @ Jun 3 2019, 07:59 PM)
Another scenario

In 1 kg packaging =10% manuka honey + 90% other honey
Labelling : real manuka honey
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Yes blend, local nz law dont have stric honey law. Sos youtube nz tv station
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QUOTE(viole @ Jun 3 2019, 08:44 PM)
Got manuka brand not registered also.
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Nope, only registered product with primary industry department can export out of nz.
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QUOTE(Pichu00 @ Jun 3 2019, 08:48 PM)
Nope,  only registered product with primary industry department  can export out of nz.
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Lol obviously there got manuka honey label here that is not registered under manuka association. If i have time i will search for you.

And the top brands already undergo lab test to determine the umf or mgo factor. The only factor thats not reliable is k factor. And if you notice, those brands that use k factor are selling cheap and some brand not even in manuka association.

I always advice people to only buy from these 3 reputable brands;

-summerglow (the best. License no #1 in manuka association. But sadly not available in malaysia. Need to import)

- komvita (expensive shit but worth it)

- manuka health (best balance for me. I always buy this every 2 months)
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QUOTE(hiyyl @ Jun 3 2019, 07:49 PM)
Nz manuka honey I only go for comvita brand. Intro by locals there.
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That's only one locally introduced? smile.gif

QUOTE(viole @ Jun 3 2019, 08:53 PM)
Lol obviously there got manuka honey label here that is not registered under manuka association. If i have time i will search for you.

And the top brands already undergo lab test to determine the umf or mgo factor. The only factor thats not reliable is k factor. And if you notice, those brands that use k factor are selling cheap and some brand not even in manuka association.

I always advice people to only buy from these 3 reputable brands;

-summerglow (the best. License no #1 in manuka association. But sadly not available in malaysia. Need to import)

- komvita (expensive shit but worth it)

- manuka health (best balance for me. I always buy this every 2 months)
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Noticed that comvita sold at shopee at official page was selling at RM189 for 250g

https://shopee.com.my/Comvita-UMF10-Manuka-...7325.2115068908

while another one with 500g selling only at RM204 & RM220 respectively.

https://shopee.com.my/-Ready-Stock-EXP-09-2...0066.3232144227

https://shopee.com.my/COMVITA-UMF%E2%84%A2-...8291.4279083369
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QUOTE(CP88 @ Jun 7 2021, 09:41 PM)
That's only one locally introduced?  smile.gif
Noticed that comvita sold at shopee at official page was selling at RM189 for 250g

https://shopee.com.my/Comvita-UMF10-Manuka-...7325.2115068908

while another one with 500g selling only at RM204 & RM220 respectively.

https://shopee.com.my/-Ready-Stock-EXP-09-2...0066.3232144227

https://shopee.com.my/COMVITA-UMF%E2%84%A2-...8291.4279083369
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Thanks for sharing, at least I can know which one is real honey and at least has a comparator.
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Did you scoop your honey with metal spoon?
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Did you scoop your honey with metal spoon?
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QUOTE(Jin_Kecik @ Jun 3 2019, 04:02 PM)
this.  pure honey semut wont come
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Myth, can easily Google to verify. However depending on moisture content pure honey can trap ants that try to eat it.
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Real honey contains genetic memory of honeycomb.

Selamat mencuba:



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QUOTE(Al3x0174 @ Jun 3 2019, 04:58 PM)
RM35
Ok. Noted. use for BBQ chicken
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LOL bro rm35 750g, if you continue to consume daily for another year i think u will hv to amputate one of ur leg soon, cause youre basically taking syrup.

my parents buy real stingless bee honey almost every few months and 950g cost about rm200+, if you want to find real honey, u can only get from those local honest bee farmer, its kinda difficult to find because some of them feed their bees with sugar and them claim its authentic honey.
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Lol Capilano, 1 of the fakest honey on the shelf
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QUOTE(kipsydc @ Jun 28 2022, 04:48 PM)
Real honey contains genetic memory of honeycomb.

Selamat mencuba:


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Saw this trick when i went to Thailand, the tourist guide bring us to a place where they sell honey
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2 things i learn from this thread
Your average consumers knows jackshit about the product they consume
Your average consumers are very gullible

The hexagon trick is not exclusive to honey
No such thing as genetic memory
Any syrup or really just any substance viscous enough against water can manifest such phenomenon due to hexagon being the most efficient shape to take on against their own surface tension
The water is nothing but just a medium for the substance to move around
It's also why honeycomb are hexagon in the first place
Bees aren't exactly some nature engineer
They lay down the wax in circle and physic took over

Are you guys fucking 12

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post Sep 28 2022, 08:24 PM

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i’m taking makuna honey umf 20+ and above. i only trust a few brands, comvita being one.

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post Sep 28 2022, 08:33 PM

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jungle house honey pure x?

if yes, how do they commercially produce so many bottles of flavoured honey?

orange, longan, strawberry etc etc
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post Sep 28 2022, 08:37 PM

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Careful of honey...
if drink original one... you will live long and prosper...

if you been taking the fake one... you will die sooner than expected...


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post Sep 28 2022, 09:03 PM

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safe to say most if not all honey sold commercially are either sugar syrup feed to bees then taken, sugar syrup itself added to honey.

So just stay away from honey or treat it like condensed milk. Can take, but in moderation with minimal health effect.

 

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