Hi,

Any Kenari owners ? Need your help

Currently My Kenari Auto Fuel Consumption seems to be "Drinking Water"

Full Tank RM 60 Max at 320KM

Normal ?

rm60 320km??? that not normal...

So anybody who has a Kenari Auto can give me the average of RM 60 for ??KM ?

remember. Auto only~. not Manual. (I know manual won't be this this low )

Walao,urs rm60 for 320km already complaint?
Mine Daihatsu Charade Aura now FC rm50 for 180-200km ler
even more not normal

that quite high fc..maybe u can consider full servicing ur car..

kelisa 1.0A RM50 for 320km.. that's mine.. city drive with revs mostly above 2krpm( 2000~3000 rpm).

RM60? how big is the fuel tank of yours? Mine RM50 already full tank (the indicator over the gage already) hahaha..

Hi Ecko,

Full Servicing ? such as ? cause just last 10 days ago already service. But I'm not sure "Full Services" in which kind of length consider full Service.

hm.. Come to think about it. I thought kenari tank fuel are slightly larger ? (but anyway, is the same engine.. )

Let me give some spec just to indicate first,

A 3 Years Old Kenari Auto 1.0
Normal Driving : Revs on 2000 ~ 3000 RPM
Take Over Cars : 3000 ~ 5000 RPM (depends on situation)

Car Enhancement : Stock With Minor Adjustment

Add in Enhancement : Pivot Volts Stabilizers , Pivot Spark Earth And K & N Drop in Filter.

fuel tank capacity for kenari is 40liters and its stock weight is 865 to 880 kg

for kelisa is 40 litres also with weight around 801 to 811 kg

so both full tank can take in as much as RM76.8 on ron97(RM1.92/l) if tank is totally empty.

Thanks for the information and correcting my error

dijinn also driving birdie like me HAHAHAHAHA

my kenari manual RM60 can go 450km if i'm not driving fast. driving fast about 380km.

im only using pivot VS and K&n drop in filter, but probably its your K&N is dirty already. either that, when you're due for a service, go change your sparkplugs as well - that might be the case.

Tester - my kenari only fits 30liters. says so on the manual and at the pump, too.

coz kenari kelisa dun have low fuel warning mar. so when the gauge touches Empty, actually u have around 10lite more petrol. thats why when u pump full, oni can go in 30litre mar


DjiNn -
1. unplug ya battery then plug back to reset the ECU, then monitor your consumption
2. check tyre pressure
3. throw those rubbish stuff out from ya car. less weight is always better
4. If you just service your car, make sure the engine oil vicosity is correct.

if not mistaken...ur RM60 is about 32 Litres of fuel...n u driven 320Km... is like 10km/litre... i guess still alrite for city drive... afterall there's lotsa traffic lights, jams, etc.....

my old 16 yrs old proton saga (auto) is doing 9.5Km/litre for city driving... i guess its ok afterall its 16 yrs old + AUTO @_@...

not really. i've driven my kenari till its out of petrol - actually coasted to the petrol station, and pumped it to the brink of the tank - RM65

kenari chun mah~ small and compact~ hehe.

anyway, I go clean the k & N .. Bought the after cleaner kit will let you guys know.

1.will do.
2.At the moment is now at 210.
3.no rubbish located in my fish.. just one small dustbin only.
4.ok. will do.

izzit ? so big different.

kenari manual 450KM
Kenari Auto 320KM.. thats 130KM differents man~

I am driving a 2 months plus Kenari Auto. The full tank is RM60. And the fuel consumption is not more than 320km. I feel bad too. When I drive until 100km, the rpm is around 3400rpm. Went to Perodua Service for tuning, but the mechanic said that the engine can't be tuned. Weird. Anyone can help? Thanks!

don't think you can tune the ECU ~. unless you purchase those piggback .

Planning one to get AFC neo~. but I see do I really need that first or not.

Weird right? Thought Kenari is a very low consumption car. Sweat...

well maybe you got heavy foot. Always like to "press" or maybe the car is still "new"? not sure this is correct.

I did go for 380KM for my fish before... but now... makan a lot of fuel

I always maintain the rpm at 2500rpm, don't even dare to go more than 3000rpm wo... where got heavy foot oh....

I go up and down LDP from PJ SS2 to Cyberjaya daily. RM50 gives me 400km. Kenari Auto too... near to 4 years old

well maybe you got a dirty air filter ? can't be sure, cause I just check my drop in K & N filter... is freaking black.. (maybe the cause of the fuel consumption ? ) so I bought the cleaner already.

I will clean once I let you guys know the result.. (which is until my fuel tank goes E)

highway should be there.. me is just 15KM back and forth .. but makan minyak..

dun waste ya $$ on SAFC. piggy will not work in our car. after dyno tune it will look nice, but after a few days, your ECU will compensate the settings back.

lol put onli

not really. the perodua ECU isn't a super learner ECU like some hondas. once learning your driving style after 1000kms, it will set the settings there, unless you reset it, it will never relearn. a SAFC will work best as it forces the settings onto the ECU.

it is not as simple as that bro. you can check that with Team Trial Spirit Kelisa group and a few ZTH kelisa/kenari fellars. you can even chech with GT AUTO.

This post has been edited by lonewolf: Jun 29 2007, 06:13 PM

yup. already there and checking everything out..

as for the AFC Neo, I see if I want to put or not la~. cause I head a lot of people said those piggy are meant for "BIG cars / Engine only" putting on our EJ-DE might work.. but not the full potential of the AFC Neo la ? (correct ah ? )

you mean putting those ECU piggyback? 18hp... not bad for 1k la~

so kev da man, you got yourself a SAFC yourself as well ?

no, what kev da man mean is you need to change the air intake + exhaust + safc to get 18hp gain. check the picture i attach from speedworks. Anyway, dyno run done in Speedworks the HP is always higher than other places. If you were the maintain the same settings and just do a dyno run in LINKS or GT AUTO, the hp u will get is much lower. speedworks dyno tuning anyway. furthermore, the hp shows in the chart if not mistaken is on engine not on wheel.

attach the pdf as you can see the HP is only 50hp, after Dyno tune with SAFC only gain 0.87hp. This is done in GT AUTO. Do bear in mind this car has the full speedworks xhaust and air intake. look at the chart, what he got was only 50hp + 1hp(SAFC). After a week or so, went for a dyno run. Surprising the HP was no longer at 51 but lower. ( it might be effected by the humidity and temperature of the day)

if you want to reconfirm on this, try to look for kelisa187 in k2oc or kelisaclub. Around 3 years back, the $$ that he spend on a kelisa can get u a new kancil 660 to mod his car NA. what he got from there...97hp on wheel or engine i can't remember.

or you can look for kelisa6009 in ZTH to confirm on the SAFC or cclem(Team Trial Tuning) in K2OC/ZTH

This post has been edited by lonewolf: Jun 29 2007, 09:13 PM


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thanks for the information. But the AFC - Neo is just though only la~. if I really want to go for HP..

is either purchase K3-VET or just buy new car

I thought about teh AFC-Neo is to save fuel

yeah i heard of that fella, too bad a K3VET transplat with 120bhp on flywheel is much cheaper than his mods

save fuel also can, run it leaner but of course need to maintain the A/F so that it won't go too lean la....

or buy a new car, even better

no money buy new car but with those piggyback.. don't know how much can you actually save .. 5 percent ?

less than that

in the end it just become put in for "looks" only

is passion lar bro.. for him.

so .. bro . after u clean ur filter .. how's the FC ?
me myself also driving a kenari ... RM 60 for 350km+/- .. fc high le ...

erm.. i thing maybe your fuel or your engine system dirty.. can try my product... can xtend your milage for full tank about 100km ~ 150km.. only for RM7++ per full tank. dont forget to check your motor oil.. it can lower ur milage too.
im using kenari manual and easily can get 250KM with RM30 of fuel. town driving some more. want info? contact me 0173939351 or email me freersoul@yahoo.com never hurt to try maaa....

er you mean decorbonize the engine ? I already did that last week ago.

Already Change to iridium spark plug .

But Manual Kenari is confirm much save fuel then the auto~.

will try again to since I just pump my RM60 and retest it again.

last month my foot a bit heavy so ends up RM 60 for 280KM

My kenari auto with full tank i can get around 350-380 km.....But i recommand install powerjet ! I used it last time, damn good ! More pick-up, more fuel saving. Can get extra 20-30 km.....

if it aint due to mods, then it could be spoilt oxygen sensor located at the throttle body/ clogged filters/ leaking fuel system/ check tyre pressure/ spark plugs? /

if it aint those, it could be yur right foot

will let everybody know onces my fuel tank reach 0.

at the moment, there is no problem on my filters (just wash it last weekends) , there is no leaking fuel (already ask technician check), no wrong spark plugs.. (just change to iradium)

tyre pressure are stay at 220. so no problem.

about the spoilt oxygen sensor I haven't check there yet.

my kenari 1.0A (march '06) totally stock, no after-market drop-in air filter, spark plug...... wit petronas engine oil for perodua... service at perodua every 5k km... rm60 oso can go around rm300 only >,< mayb cuz of city drive?! plus wen i syok syok den full throttle until 6000rpm from 1st gear to 3rd gear...

impossible... last time b4 my 2nd service oso around 3400rpm@100kmh... after service adi bcome 3000rpm@100kmh, but after awhile bcome 3100rpm... y so weird 1 dat technician say cant b tune?! as i know by tune the engine timing can gaodim everything...

This post has been edited by jaesern: Aug 9 2007, 11:33 PM

relax la... low cc car.. wan go more than 100kmph is like that dee la.. If u really wan try this car fc try drive not more than 80kmph in 1 full tank then you will know ur real fc for kenari 1.0cc car. I own a kenari 1.0 (A) too hmm frankly say I always speed haha.. go where also speed .. RPM 3-4k and overtake 5k : ) cause my car heavy now 15 inch rim >.< also full tank 350KM but actually got another RM10 inside our fuel tank but the fuel meter already at E so if u dare to go then maybe can get 400 haha : ) good luck .. We low cc car and old technology cannot win those VVti or whatever Vtec haha..

mine kenari model b4 aero sport, only 30-35km/rm10 city drive max speed 60-70km/H. 1month ago just done general overhaul cost 2k++ so sad..

Normal for Auto Kenari.

If this has been a Proton car, everyone will be complaining like mad already.

why are you replying to a post from 2007?

my kelisa also Rm 50 run about 300km only.

since is a kenari fc topic here, just for sharing.
My kenari Rm60 can goes till 300km only.. Sad case..
City driving, not over 3,000 rpm driving.
Usually at 2,500rpm only.

Then I must be lucky enuf to hv my kelisa running 200km for rm30, quite heavy footed >.<

mine is kenari manual..
rm60 = 450-460km

how many km can go for kenari manual owners....for 2013 after rm2.10 per litre