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post Jun 29 2007, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Jun 26 2007, 02:16 AM)
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Any Kenari owners ? Need your help

Currently My Kenari Auto Fuel Consumption seems to be "Drinking Water" laugh.gif

Full Tank RM 60 Max at 320KM

Normal ?
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I go up and down LDP from PJ SS2 to Cyberjaya daily. RM50 gives me 400km. Kenari Auto too... near to 4 years old
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QUOTE(vincent_ng86 @ Jun 29 2007, 11:40 AM)
I always maintain the rpm at 2500rpm, don't even dare to go more than 3000rpm wo... where got heavy foot oh....
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well maybe you got a dirty air filter ? can't be sure, cause I just check my drop in K & N filter... is freaking black.. (maybe the cause of the fuel consumption ? ) so I bought the cleaner already.

I will clean once I let you guys know the result.. (which is until my fuel tank goes E)

QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Jun 29 2007, 11:53 AM)
I go up and down LDP from PJ SS2 to Cyberjaya daily. RM50 gives me 400km. Kenari Auto too... near to 4 years old
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highway should be there.. me is just 15KM back and forth .. but makan minyak.. laugh.gif
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post Jun 29 2007, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Jun 28 2007, 10:23 PM)
don't think you can tune the ECU ~. unless you purchase those piggback .

Planning one to get AFC neo~. but I see do I really need that first or not.
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dun waste ya $$ on SAFC. piggy will not work in our car. after dyno tune it will look nice, but after a few days, your ECU will compensate the settings back.
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Jun 28 2007, 10:23 PM)
don't think you can tune the ECU ~. unless you purchase those piggback .

Planning one to get AFC neo~. but I see do I really need that first or not.
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lol put onli tongue.gif

QUOTE(lonewolf @ Jun 29 2007, 05:54 PM)
dun waste ya $$ on SAFC. piggy will not work in our car. after dyno tune it will look nice, but after a few days, your ECU will compensate the settings back.
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not really. the perodua ECU isn't a super learner ECU like some hondas. once learning your driving style after 1000kms, it will set the settings there, unless you reset it, it will never relearn. a SAFC will work best as it forces the settings onto the ECU.
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QUOTE(kev da man @ Jun 29 2007, 05:57 PM)
lol put onli tongue.gif
not really. the perodua ECU isn't a super learner ECU like some hondas. once learning your driving style after 1000kms, it will set the settings there, unless you reset it, it will never relearn. a SAFC will work best as it forces the settings onto the ECU.
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it is not as simple as that bro. you can check that with Team Trial Spirit Kelisa group and a few ZTH kelisa/kenari fellars. you can even chech with GT AUTO.

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QUOTE(khangchween @ Jun 29 2007, 05:50 PM)
Bro, maybe u can try posting your query at www.k2oc.com...

lots of crazy 'bird' enthusiast willing to help u!
They have panel mechanic as well maybe can help u solve your problem...

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yup. already there and checking everything out.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(lonewolf @ Jun 29 2007, 05:54 PM)
dun waste ya $$ on SAFC. piggy will not work in our car. after dyno tune it will look nice, but after a few days, your ECU will compensate the settings back.
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QUOTE(kev da man @ Jun 29 2007, 05:57 PM)
lol put onli tongue.gif
not really. the perodua ECU isn't a super learner ECU like some hondas. once learning your driving style after 1000kms, it will set the settings there, unless you reset it, it will never relearn. a SAFC will work best as it forces the settings onto the ECU.
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as for the AFC Neo, I see if I want to put or not la~. cause I head a lot of people said those piggy are meant for "BIG cars / Engine only" putting on our EJ-DE might work.. but not the full potential of the AFC Neo la ? (correct ah ? laugh.gif )
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QUOTE(kev da man @ Jun 29 2007, 06:27 PM)
not really. the SAFC can unlock potential, heck, speedworks tuned their kenari and it ended up producing 18 more bhp (i cant remeber exact number, check at their website) but of course, with thier exhaust piping and K&N filter charger kit la laugh.gif
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you mean putting those ECU piggyback? 18hp... not bad for 1k la~ laugh.gif

so kev da man, you got yourself a SAFC yourself as well ?
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post Jun 29 2007, 08:56 PM

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no, what kev da man mean is you need to change the air intake + exhaust + safc to get 18hp gain. check the picture i attach from speedworks. Anyway, dyno run done in Speedworks the HP is always higher than other places. If you were the maintain the same settings and just do a dyno run in LINKS or GT AUTO, the hp u will get is much lower. speedworks dyno tuning doh.gif anyway. furthermore, the hp shows in the chart if not mistaken is on engine not on wheel.

attach the pdf as you can see the HP is only 50hp, after Dyno tune with SAFC only gain 0.87hp. This is done in GT AUTO. Do bear in mind this car has the full speedworks xhaust and air intake. look at the chart, what he got was only 50hp + 1hp(SAFC). After a week or so, went for a dyno run. Surprising the HP was no longer at 51 but lower. ( it might be effected by the humidity and temperature of the day)

if you want to reconfirm on this, try to look for kelisa187 in k2oc or kelisaclub. Around 3 years back, the $$ that he spend on a kelisa can get u a new kancil 660 to mod his car NA. what he got from there...97hp on wheel or engine i can't remember.

or you can look for kelisa6009 in ZTH to confirm on the SAFC or cclem(Team Trial Tuning) in K2OC/ZTH

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thanks for the information. But the AFC - Neo is just though only la~. if I really want to go for HP..

is either purchase K3-VET or just buy new car laugh.gif

I thought about teh AFC-Neo is to save fuel laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Jun 29 2007, 08:56 PM)
no, what kev da man mean is you need to change the air intake + exhaust + safc to get 18hp gain. check the picture i attach from speedworks. Anyway, dyno run done in Speedworks the HP is always higher than other places. If you were the maintain the same settings and just do a dyno run in LINKS or GT AUTO, the hp u will get is much lower.  speedworks dyno tuning  doh.gif  anyway. furthermore, the hp shows in the chart if not mistaken is on engine not on wheel.

attach the pdf as you can see the HP is only 50hp, after Dyno tune with SAFC only gain 0.87hp. This is done in GT AUTO. Do bear in mind this car has the full speedworks xhaust and air intake. look at the chart, what he got was only 50.21hp + 0.87hp(SAFC). After a week or so, went for a dyno run. Surprising the HP was no longer at 51 but lower. ( it might be effected by the humidity and temperature of the day)

if you want to reconfirm on this, try to look for kelisa187 in k2oc or kelisaclub. Around 3 years back, the $$ that he spend on a kelisa can get u a new kancil 660 to mod his car NA. what he got from there...97hp on wheel or engine i can't remember.

or you can look for kelisa6009 in ZTH to confirm on the SAFC or cclem(Team Trial Tuning) in K2OC/ZTH
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yeah i heard of that fella, too bad a K3VET transplat with 120bhp on flywheel is much cheaper than his mods doh.gif

QUOTE(DjiNn @ Jun 29 2007, 09:45 PM)
thanks for the information. But the AFC - Neo is just though only la~. if I really want to go for HP..

is either purchase K3-VET or just buy new car laugh.gif

I thought about teh AFC-Neo is to save fuel laugh.gif
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save fuel also can, run it leaner but of course need to maintain the A/F so that it won't go too lean la....

or buy a new car, even better tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kev da man @ Jun 30 2007, 04:03 AM)
yeah i heard of that fella, too bad a K3VET transplat with 120bhp on flywheel is much cheaper than his mods doh.gif
save fuel also can, run it leaner but of course need to maintain the A/F so that it won't go too lean la....

or buy a new car, even better tongue.gif
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no money buy new car tongue.gif but with those piggyback.. don't know how much can you actually save .. laugh.gif 5 percent ? laugh.gif
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less than that sleep.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kev da man @ Jul 1 2007, 09:29 AM)
less than that sleep.gif laugh.gif
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laugh.gif in the end it just become put in for "looks" only biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kev da man @ Jun 30 2007, 04:03 AM)
yeah i heard of that fella, too bad a K3VET transplat with 120bhp on flywheel is much cheaper than his mods doh.gif
save fuel also can, run it leaner but of course need to maintain the A/F so that it won't go too lean la....

or buy a new car, even better tongue.gif
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is passion lar bro.. rclxms.gif for him.
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so .. bro . after u clean ur filter .. how's the FC ?
me myself also driving a kenari ... RM 60 for 350km+/- .. fc high le ...
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Jun 26 2007, 02:16 AM)
Hi,

Any Kenari owners ? Need your help

Currently My Kenari Auto Fuel Consumption seems to be "Drinking Water" laugh.gif

Full Tank RM 60 Max at 320KM

Normal ?
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erm.. i thing maybe your fuel or your engine system dirty.. can try my product... can xtend your milage for full tank about 100km ~ 150km.. only for RM7++ per full tank. dont forget to check your motor oil.. it can lower ur milage too.
im using kenari manual and easily can get 250KM with RM30 of fuel. town driving some more. want info? contact me 0173939351 or email me freersoul@yahoo.com never hurt to try maaa.... icon_rolleyes.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(freersoul @ Jul 18 2007, 10:20 AM)
erm.. i thing maybe your fuel or your engine system dirty.. can try my product... can xtend your milage for full tank about 100km ~ 150km.. only for RM7++ per full tank. dont forget to check your motor oil.. it can lower ur milage too.
im using kenari manual and easily can get 250KM with RM30 of fuel. town driving some more. want info? contact me 0173939351 or email me freersoul@yahoo.com never hurt to try maaa.... icon_rolleyes.gif  brows.gif
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er you mean decorbonize the engine ? I already did that last week ago.

Already Change to iridium spark plug .

But Manual Kenari is confirm much save fuel then the auto~.

will try again to since I just pump my RM60 and retest it again.

last month my foot a bit heavy laugh.gif so ends up RM 60 for 280KM laugh.gif
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My kenari auto with full tank i can get around 350-380 km.....But i recommand install powerjet ! I used it last time, damn good ! More pick-up, more fuel saving. Can get extra 20-30 km..... smile.gif

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