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 Convert MYR and place FD in SG Banks ? Yay or Nah

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TScsbong87
post May 30 2019, 09:25 PM, updated 7y ago

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Has anyone practice this ? Need enlightment
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post May 30 2019, 10:14 PM

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What's your goal, amount, age, expectations, etc?
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post May 30 2019, 10:16 PM

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Singapore FD give like 0.4%

If you want risk free investments in Singapore, consider Singapore Savings Bonds.

But can you even open a bank acc in SG? Maybank scraped their iSavvy opening in Malaysia since 1MDB expose.
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post May 30 2019, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(csbong87 @ May 30 2019, 09:25 PM)
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Not worth as SG FD rate is very low. If converting SGD to invest in SG stocks Yes, worth it. If FD no. Our amanah saham fixed price fund = better returns than SG FD. Of course if they offer like 4%, then better than our amanah saham.

QUOTE(honsiong @ May 30 2019, 10:16 PM)
Singapore FD give like 0.4%

If you want risk free investments in Singapore, consider Singapore Savings Bonds.

But can you even open a bank acc in SG? Maybank scraped their iSavvy opening in Malaysia since 1MDB expose.
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Actually is still active.
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post May 31 2019, 03:31 AM

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SG currency better, economy rather better mayb ?
TScsbong87
post May 31 2019, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 30 2019, 10:31 PM)
Not worth as SG FD rate is very low. If converting SGD to invest in SG stocks Yes, worth it. If FD no. Our amanah saham fixed price fund = better returns than SG FD. Of course if they offer like 4%, then better than our amanah saham.
Actually is still active.
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Ic, say CIMB Sg FD rate is 1.8%, theorytically can it multiply by 3 while converting Sgd back to Myr ? Like getting 5.4% after conversion ? Total noob on this.
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QUOTE(csbong87 @ May 31 2019, 03:38 AM)
Ic, say CIMB Sg FD rate is 1.8%, theorytically can it multiply by 3 while converting Sgd back to Myr ? Like getting 5.4% after conversion ? Total noob on this.
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Say you have RM50k and exchange rate is 3.00

Put in amanah:
RM50000 x 4%pa = RM2000 interest

Put in cimb sg:
RM50000/3 = S$16667
S$16667 x 1.8%pa = S$300 interest = RM900 interest.

So no, you won't get better returns placing in SGD.

This post has been edited by azores85: May 31 2019, 07:05 AM
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post May 31 2019, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(azores85 @ May 31 2019, 07:01 AM)
Say you have RM50k and exchange rate is 3.00

Put in amanah:
RM50000 x 4%pa = RM2000 interest

Put in cimb sg:
RM50000/3 = S$16667
$16667 x 1.8%pa = S$300 interest = RM900 interest.

So no, you won't get better returns placing in SGD.
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I query about the FD conversion as of 1.8% × 3 thus FD convert back to MY would be 5.4%. Is this even legit
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post May 31 2019, 07:06 AM

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post May 31 2019, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(csbong87 @ May 30 2019, 09:25 PM)
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Don't it's not worth it, KLSE bonds is better, 4 - 8% return
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QUOTE(Duperaider @ May 31 2019, 07:10 AM)
Don't it's not worth it, KLSE bonds is better, 4 - 8% return
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am stucked with ASNB

This post has been edited by csbong87: May 31 2019, 07:15 AM
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post May 31 2019, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(csbong87 @ May 31 2019, 07:05 AM)
I query about the FD conversion as of 1.8% × 3 thus FD convert back to MY would be 5.4%. Is this even legit
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You can't count like this, you already convert yr MYR to SGD already.

Need to use the same currency..

Borrow my friends explanation.
Put in amanah:
RM50000 x 4%pa = RM2000 interest

Put in cimb sg:
$16667 (RM50000) x 1.8%pa = S$300 (RM900) interest.

Your x 3 is the conversion rate, not the multiplication of interest.

XP or else I'd go pound (x5) or USD (x4)

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QUOTE(woonsc @ May 31 2019, 07:18 AM)
You can't count like this, you already convert yr MYR to SGD already.

Need to use the same currency..

Borrow my friends explanation.
Put in amanah:
RM50000 x 4%pa = RM2000 interest

Put in cimb sg:
$16667 (RM50000)  x 1.8%pa = S$300 (RM900) interest.

Your x 3 is the conversion rate, not the multiplication of interest.

XP or else I'd go pound (x5) or USD (x4)
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Fantastic explanation. Thanks
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post May 31 2019, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(csbong87 @ May 31 2019, 03:38 AM)
Ic, say CIMB Sg FD rate is 1.8%, theorytically can it multiply by 3 while converting Sgd back to Myr ? Like getting 5.4% after conversion ? Total noob on this.
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It don't work that way. Say 1SGD = RM3. You put in SGD10k = RM30k (let's use SGD1= RM3 for easy calculation). After one year you get SGD180 (1.8%). Total SGD you have = SGD10180. Assuming exchange rate stays the same, you convert back, you get RM30540. Rm540/30000= 1.8% of course you havent factor in bank fees for transferring. Markup exchange rate by banks. If you include that all in SG think you get 1% only.

But there are people who's doing what you are thinking. Instead of SGD, they going for India rupee (Malaysian indians) or Indonesian rupiah. Both India and Indonesia FD % is way higher than us.

What do you meant am stucked with ASNB?
QUOTE(azores85 @ May 31 2019, 07:01 AM)
Say you have RM50k and exchange rate is 3.00

Put in amanah:
RM50000 x 4%pa = RM2000 interest

Put in cimb sg:
RM50000/3 = S$16667
S$16667 x 1.8%pa = S$300 interest = RM900 interest.

So no, you won't get better returns placing in SGD.
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Correction. Amanah saham is not 4%. Min now is 5.5%

This post has been edited by Ramjade: May 31 2019, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(honsiong @ May 30 2019, 10:16 PM)
Singapore FD give like 0.4%

If you want risk free investments in Singapore, consider Singapore Savings Bonds.

But can you even open a bank acc in SG? Maybank scraped their iSavvy opening in Malaysia since 1MDB expose.
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How is it scraped? I just submitted my iSavvy account opening form to my branch. So it must still be valid.
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post Jun 1 2019, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jun 1 2019, 05:26 PM)
How is it scraped? I just submitted my iSavvy account opening form to my branch. So it must still be valid.
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OK I could be wrong there, coz I couldn't find any more information about it on Malaysia site.
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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jun 1 2019, 05:28 PM)
OK I could be wrong there, coz I couldn't find any more information about it on Malaysia site.
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It is in the Singapore site. There is a form dedicated only for Maybank Malaysian customers.
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post Jun 1 2019, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(csbong87 @ May 30 2019, 09:25 PM)
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https://www.imoney.sg/fixed-deposit

highest FD rate in SG is cimb and maybank

i contacted SG CIMB through email, minimum need S$10k

cimb.assists.sg@cimb.com

you may email them and ask

we can open bank account even we are in MY
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QUOTE(daimon @ Jun 1 2019, 09:34 PM)
https://www.imoney.sg/fixed-deposit

highest FD rate in SG is cimb and maybank

i contacted SG CIMB through email, minimum need S$10k

cimb.assists.sg@cimb.com

you may email them and ask

we can open bank account even we are in MY
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As mention their rates only 1.5-1.8% which is very unattractive.
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QUOTE(csbong87 @ May 31 2019, 07:05 AM)
I query about the FD conversion as of 1.8% × 3 thus FD convert back to MY would be 5.4%. Is this even legit
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I read your calculation like this and I am very sure you failed your maths.

If I applied your maths to UK FD, say 2% per annum and their currency rate is 1:5, then their return would be 2%*5% =10%

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