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 Reasons Ford Mustang did not take off here?

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matrix88
post May 26 2019, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 26 2019, 07:10 PM)
The car only launched in 2015. Only 4 years old. Even the V6 is nice. But the V8 is what everyone wants. Sales must be pretty good that Ford Msia is showing Mustang 2019 catalog.
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can buy parts online, but knowing modern cars, need to diagnose and repair the car if any funny symptom occur. without a good dealership, you will be in trouble
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post May 26 2019, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ May 26 2019, 08:12 PM)
Boils down to maintenance. The V8 is a simple engine with outdated tech while the Ecoboost is a complicated engine with numerous wiring and pipes. Difficult to troubleshoot with an OBD reader.
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I think we can all agree that all modern engines are hard to fix. Even modern V8 is the same. In fact its like they made it not to be fixed at all. Buy drive and throw away. laugh.gif So the point of it failing at some point or another will eventually happen. And no matter how complex the modern engine are, it is still basically understandable tech.

But if any of the cars like the mustang are all electric, probably going to be even more trouble. Need people with different sets of skills already. Till then, no matter how difficult it is to understand modern engines, it is still far more better than whats coming up next.

I won't look down on the V6 mustang. It is still fast at 300HP. And since it is about 4 years old, definitely has some aftermarket engine upgrades for it already.
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post May 26 2019, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ May 26 2019, 08:33 PM)
can buy parts online, but knowing modern cars, need to diagnose and repair the car if any funny symptom occur. without a good dealership, you will be in trouble
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I am pretty sure the outside places would know how to diagnose & fix the mustang by now. 4 years old already. Every piece of engine flash codes probably floating around already. laugh.gif But so far no one vlog about the V6. Many about the V8.
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post May 26 2019, 08:42 PM

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the mustang uses R1234yf air cond gas, the cooling coil x tahan, refill once kena rm1.6k
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post May 27 2019, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(Jegane @ May 26 2019, 08:42 PM)
the mustang uses R1234yf air cond gas, the cooling coil x tahan, refill once kena rm1.6k
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But all modern cars uses this new type gas right?
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post May 27 2019, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 27 2019, 12:09 AM)
But all modern cars uses this new type gas right?
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I believe you are talking about R134a which is everywhere now. I'm talking about R1234yf, google it yo! Not much car uses it in Msia and its being monopolized by the producers, thus the crazy price.
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post May 27 2019, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Jegane @ May 27 2019, 09:42 AM)
I believe you are talking about R134a which is everywhere now. I'm talking about R1234yf, google it yo! Not much car uses it in Msia and its being monopolized by the producers, thus the crazy price.
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It will become more popular in the years to come.

In any case if you can afford the price of this type of car the cost of this will be nothing when compared to the price of each tyre.
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post May 27 2019, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(Jegane @ May 27 2019, 09:42 AM)
I believe you are talking about R134a which is everywhere now. I'm talking about R1234yf, google it yo! Not much car uses it in Msia and its being monopolized by the producers, thus the crazy price.
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No. I am talking about R32 refrigerant. I have no idea what that number you mentioned is at all. Thats why i said new.

Refrigerant Global Warming Potential Ozone Depletion Potential
R-22 1810 Medium
R-410A 2088 Zero
R-32 675 Zero
R-134A 1430 Zero
R-290 3 Zero
R-600A 3 Zero
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post May 27 2019, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 27 2019, 01:52 PM)
No. I am talking about R32 refrigerant. I have no idea what that number you mentioned is at all. Thats why i said new.

Refrigerant Global Warming Potential Ozone Depletion Potential
R-22 1810 Medium
R-410A 2088 Zero
R-32 675 Zero
R-134A 1430 Zero
R-290 3 Zero
R-600A 3 Zero
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R32 isn't used on vehicles
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post May 27 2019, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(Jegane @ May 27 2019, 07:35 PM)
R32 isn't used on vehicles
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Ohhh.... he talking about this.


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post May 28 2019, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 26 2019, 08:37 PM)
I think we can all agree that all modern engines are hard to fix. Even modern V8 is the same. In fact its like they made it not to be fixed at all. Buy drive and throw away.  laugh.gif So the point of it failing at some point or another will eventually happen. And no matter how complex the modern engine are, it is still basically understandable tech.

But if any of the cars like the mustang are all electric, probably going to be even more trouble. Need people with different sets of skills already. Till then, no matter how difficult it is to understand modern engines, it is still far more better than whats coming up next.

I won't look down on the V6 mustang. It is still fast at 300HP. And since it is about 4 years old, definitely has some aftermarket engine upgrades for it already.
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All engines are hard to fix while it is still in the engine bay, definitely correct, as for it being hard to fix, I think the correct word is expensive to fix in which case yes that is certainly true.

In any case if you can afford the price of a Mustang here you probably have better things to do with your time then trying to fix it smile.gif

QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 26 2019, 08:39 PM)
I am pretty sure the outside places would know how to diagnose & fix the mustang by now. 4 years old already. Every piece of engine flash codes probably floating around already.  laugh.gif But so far no one vlog about the V6. Many about the V8.
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Actually engine codes for this isn't hard to get, that V6 engine is used in quite a lot of other Ford vehicles and new OBDII scanners are abundant these days that it would also have its code.

In any case I won't worry too much about parts, once a car is sold in Japan, UK and Australia there will be plenty of parts around for it. Plus the world has become much smaller with ecommerce these days.

V6 vs V8, depends on your priorities. V6 will handle better due to less nose-heavy characteristics while the V8 well you just can't beat what a V8 offers.

Darn I should not have sold off my LR Defender with the GM350 conversion.

Mustang GT, RM11k roadtax. Wish there was a convertible and manual one for sale.
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post May 29 2019, 08:24 AM

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I ask a famous workshop in Sunway, specialise in car mod & tune, how come not many Mustang on the road?

He said this car show off can la, although sound very high pitch and nice, but its not fast at all, the GT V8 max tune only 3++whp

I was thinking to replace my car with Mustang, his advise better buy Audi TTRS, proven in Sepang.
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post May 29 2019, 08:30 AM

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F A R T ah?
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post May 29 2019, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(jameslow @ May 29 2019, 08:24 AM)
I ask a famous workshop in Sunway, specialise in car mod & tune, how come not many Mustang on the road?

He said this car show off can la, although sound very high pitch and nice, but its not fast at all, the GT V8 max tune only 3++whp

I was thinking to replace my car with Mustang, his advise better buy Audi TTRS, proven in Sepang.
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Mustang is not cheap by any means. And it is really a car to drive and be looked at. Most people would not bat an eyelid at any BMW/ Merc or Audi. Even if they were the go fast versions. No one cares. laugh.gif But you drive a Mustang, people look at it. Because it has a shape and design that makes you look at it as a really cool car. If wanna go fast, i would not look at a Mustang at all. Not even a Mustang GT.
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post May 29 2019, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 29 2019, 10:32 AM)
Mustang is not cheap by any means. And it is really a car to drive and be looked at. Most people would not bat an eyelid at any BMW/ Merc or Audi. Even if they were the go fast versions. No one cares.  laugh.gif But you drive a Mustang, people look at it. Because it has a shape and design that makes you look at it as a really cool car. If wanna go fast, i would not look at a Mustang at all. Not even a Mustang GT.
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You are right, exactly the point, a car be looked at...only smile.gif

Car performance enthusiast won't care about it, don't bother to look at it... but if it's a RS3, 4, 5, 6, M2, 3, 4, 5, AMG GTs, 55, 63, we will take their photo, and share it in our group chat, because its fast and rare... lol

Probably we are in 2 different group la... you see expensive cars, I see fast cars...



 

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