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post May 14 2019, 02:32 PM, updated 7y ago

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E-hailing drivers are calling for a reform of the Public Service Vehicle (PSV) licence, and hope the government will extend the July 12 deadline for them to get the commercial licence.

Grab Drivers Malaysia Association president Arif Asyraf Ali said less than 10% of 200,000 drivers for the e-hailing service are now PSV-ready, and cited factors such as steep fees and difficult tests as problems faced by them.

He said the government should extend the deadline by six more months.

He claimed that many drivers found it difficult to pass the PSV test, adding that they were given questions which are irrelevant to the e-hailing industry.

“I heard from my colleague that about 100 drivers went to sit for the test, and all them failed.

“Books are not allowed and the only language used is in Bahasa,” he told reporters today, adding that many drivers could not read or write in Malay.

He said disabled drivers were also not briefed about the application process.

“We do not know if the driving institutes will provide adequate facilities to assist them or whether they have to undergo the same process like others.”

The government had said it would not extend the July 12 deadline for e-hailing drivers to undergo the PSV driving course, which is also a requirement for conventional taxi drivers.

Holders of the PSV licence, which costs RM115 annually, are allowed to drive any type of commercial vehicles to carry paying passengers, such as taxis and buses.

Meanwhile, a spokesman for another e-hailing operator Dacsee Community said the application process for PSV was confusing.

“We expect many drivers to quit immediately, noting that many are doing the job as their side job to gain income,” said Asliza Ali.
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ly-12-deadline/

Don't know BM, better just don't drive.
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post May 14 2019, 02:34 PM

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Lol only Bahasa is the reason?KNN
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post May 14 2019, 02:34 PM

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welll, thats why they are grab drivers. they arent literate.
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post May 14 2019, 02:34 PM

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Really hard? Or just lazy?

So means taxi driver more competent or what?
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post May 14 2019, 02:35 PM

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why don't know BM???
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post May 14 2019, 02:35 PM

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“Books are not allowed and the only language used is in Bahasa,” he told reporters today, adding that many drivers could not read or write in Malay.


Stay in Malaysia, but still can't read BM. You expect everything spoonfed?
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post May 14 2019, 02:35 PM

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post May 14 2019, 02:37 PM

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if communication skills poor with passengers aka mostly malaysians (aka BM) then why drive Grab at all. use hand signs ah?

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post May 14 2019, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ May 14 2019, 02:32 PM)
born & live in m'sia edi for how many years? still dunno BM?
summore desperate until com out OKU card.
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post May 14 2019, 02:39 PM

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If not take the lesen n continue like now how they going to trace u ?
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post May 14 2019, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Prawnstar928 @ May 14 2019, 02:37 PM)
There are people who are illiterate, don't be so full of yourself
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You mean 90% of 200k illiterate? Come on, we know illiterate is just minority.

Most of them just dont bother to take this seriously.
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“Books are not allowed and the only language used is in Bahasa,” he told reporters today, adding that many drivers could not read or write in Malay.


just born in Malaysia ke? since primary school already like this. annnnd, i guess u know how they get their driving license..

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QUOTE(Lyu @ May 14 2019, 02:39 PM)
If not take the lesen n continue like now how they going to trace u ?
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Actually easier if grab implement psv license id in their database and match with ic.

Those who dont have cant register as driver.

But now macam no enforcement.
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post May 14 2019, 02:41 PM

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Wait a minute. It's been too long but isn't the written test for your driving license only in BM? How are they driving now?
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post May 14 2019, 02:41 PM

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rm115 a year is steep?
rokok lagi mahal bang..

and i tot anthony u-turn d on this?
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post May 14 2019, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(viole @ May 14 2019, 02:34 PM)
Really hard? Or just lazy?

So means taxi driver more competent or what?
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Last time got pasti lulus package. This was how tax drivers got their PSV.

But since New Malaysia era, this is no longer possible.
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post May 14 2019, 02:43 PM

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It is actually sad to know that with all the amount of budget allocated into education, we still have Malaysians who can't speak/read/write in Malay.

Maybe they grew up in pedalaman, far from school, so education chance were not available to them when they were younger.
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post May 14 2019, 02:43 PM

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grab drivers and taxi drivers dua2 sama saja.

dua2 babi.
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post May 14 2019, 02:43 PM

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post May 14 2019, 02:44 PM

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OK good, we don't need that 100 mentioned grab driver. Serious cancer there
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post May 14 2019, 02:46 PM

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How they passed their L license if don't know nasional language?
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QUOTE(river.sand @ May 14 2019, 02:42 PM)
Last time got pasti lulus package. This was how tax drivers got their PSV.

But since New Malaysia era, this is no longer possible.
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Still you need to sit for exam. Like driving test. Got pasti lulus package also. Still need to sit for computer test.

And individual psv need to renew also. They can renew no problem je.

Reading the excuses seems like they just dont bother to do this and cook up some bs.
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post May 14 2019, 02:47 PM

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for real?

dunno Bahasa ?

good. stop being a Malaysian

go back to your cave


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post May 14 2019, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ May 14 2019, 02:32 PM)
True. Even bangla can speak, read and write in BM. Cannot understand BM is simply a lame excuse.
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QUOTE(saikia2046 @ May 14 2019, 02:46 PM)
How they passed their L license if don't know nasional language?
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post May 14 2019, 02:48 PM

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bangla stay Malaysia 6mth can speak understandable sentence, these guys whole life stay Malaysia can't even understand standard Malay?

drive Grab in Singapore lor
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post May 14 2019, 02:48 PM

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what the hell can't read malay?
get normal driving license also need to pass test which is in malay no?
all lesen terbang?

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QUOTE(brkli @ May 14 2019, 02:40 PM)
just born in Malaysia ke? since primary school already like this. annnnd, i guess u know how they get their driving license..
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Maybe this 100 grab driver very atas la, sekolah orang puteh dulu
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post May 14 2019, 02:49 PM

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When go for course, didnt know was in BM?
incompetent, now fail wanna blame this that.
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Taxi driver can pass. grab can't???? I thought taxi drive yang tak bertamadun
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Can some one publish the PSV Exam question for all ktard to judge?

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I know some grab drivers
They even no complete F5 school then quit study.


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post May 14 2019, 02:52 PM

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Boycott e hailing. Support taxi!
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Why not just terminate ALL BM teachers if any of their students failed to achieve A in SPM..
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can't speak/write BM is the weakest of reason

try again
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QUOTE(nghj @ May 14 2019, 02:49 PM)
When go for course, didnt know was in BM?
incompetent, now fail wanna blame this that.
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Since when competent people will work as a driver?
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RM 115 for a year is considered steep?

eh? eh??
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I call bullshit.

The GDL and PSV test is 95% similar. I hv a GDL lesen myself.

If diploma and spm grad can pass it.. How dumb are ehailing drivers?
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ May 14 2019, 02:32 PM)
Produk UEC lah tu


HAHAHA


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post May 14 2019, 02:56 PM

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However 'bad' these grab driver may be... people still prefer them over most taxi drivers. Oh well ~
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Books are not allowed in a test and they complain.

Might as well give them the answers to the test.

Ohwai
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taxi driver can pass, grab driver can't?

doesn't make sense
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QUOTE(EmpireAnt @ May 14 2019, 02:47 PM)
for real?

dunno Bahasa ?

good. stop being a Malaysian

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but but....lots of ppl in /k can't even converse basic bahasa mang

u know i know who lah
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ May 14 2019, 02:52 PM)
Boycott e hailing. Support taxi!
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Agreed. All Grab driver are sampah not qualified to be driver.
Gov should banned Grab.

Taxi > Grab
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adding that many drivers could not read or write in Malay.


This is bullshit. Tak ambik SPM ke?

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QUOTE(SerioseCat @ May 14 2019, 02:58 PM)
This is bullshit.  Tak ambik SPM ke?
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They are driving Grab, no?... so yea, (some are) probably uneducated with limited options for them to earn a living

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Should make it mandatory for all taxi drivers / grab drivers to have at least 1st class honors from selected universities.
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QUOTE(ctrl_alt_del @ May 14 2019, 03:01 PM)
Should make it mandatory for all taxi drivers / grab drivers to have at least 1st class honors from selected universities.
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Must also have al least credit at SPM level in:
1. BM
2. BI
3. Math

Those that not qualified can join the underworld becoming pimp, pirate DVD seller, extortionist & other crime jobs.

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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ May 14 2019, 03:05 PM)
Must also have al least credit at SPM level in:
1. BM
2. BI
3. Math

Those that not qualified can join the underworld becoming pimp, pirate DVD seller, extortionist & other crime jobs.
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No, not just credit, must be an A for new SPM grades / or A1 for old SPM.
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cukur we back using taxi. thank you loke.
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QUOTE(lepo @ May 14 2019, 02:34 PM)
Lol only Bahasa is the reason?KNN
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This is called Racist. Should be multi language as we are Malaysian
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Loke removed 'bao' lulus starter pack, all failed test

If Loke intro lulus starter pack later all complain exam expensive
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QUOTE(red_satu @ May 14 2019, 02:41 PM)
Wait a minute. It's been too long but isn't the written test for your driving license only in BM? How are they driving now?
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QUOTE(thelonely @ May 14 2019, 02:48 PM)
what the hell can't read malay?
get normal driving license also need to pass test which is in malay no?
all lesen terbang?
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There used to be oral test option then, for your L licence.
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Think everyone missing the point that the MAJORITY of the drivers are from the MAJORITY race.
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QUOTE(The_Rock @ May 14 2019, 03:11 PM)
This is called Racist. Should be multi language as we are Malaysian
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nope, national language is bahasa melayu. you or your ancestors being granted citizenship doesnt change that
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QUOTE(reed90 @ May 14 2019, 02:56 PM)
Produk UEC lah tu
HAHAHA
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I'm sure they are not UEC product because all Chinese are successful & rich, they don't need to drive Grab to make a living.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ May 14 2019, 02:35 PM)
Stay in Malaysia, but still can't read BM. You expect everything spoonfed?
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who and which statement in law said staying in malaysia a must to know to read BM?

kindly enlighten us......
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living in malaysia dont know malay language , talk much about icerd
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ May 14 2019, 03:23 PM)
I'm sure they are not UEC product because all Chinese are successful & rich, they don't need to drive Grab to make a living.
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cannot read or write in Malay, but can read and write in Bahasa Wicet

fucking retarded budak wicet everywhere
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ May 14 2019, 03:23 PM)
I'm sure they are not UEC product because all Chinese are successful & rich, they don't need to drive Grab to make a living.
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ya,you paling pandai,apa pun tau.
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QUOTE(malibuchong @ May 14 2019, 03:23 PM)
who and which statement in law said staying in malaysia a must to know to read BM?

kindly enlighten us......
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None.

But to pass PSV u need to know how to read BM.

If not, please paste on the ride-hailing car door "accepts mandarin-speaking passengers only"
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Don't know BM is bullshit. How did they pass the driving test which was conducted in BM in the first place? Come on...stronger excuses please...

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m i reading this right?
then after this grab will give back all the gula2 they used to give when uber still around
supply-demand
well played anthony
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QUOTE(malibuchong @ May 14 2019, 03:28 PM)
ya,you paling pandai,apa pun tau.
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Psst. See my avatar.
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Im impressed that for the first time in k, everyone speaks of importance of bahasa malaysia... albeit in english
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u guys laugh now

later not enough driver, the fare goes up

u dont complain
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QUOTE(SerioseCat @ May 14 2019, 03:29 PM)
None.

But to pass PSV u need to know how to read BM.

If not, please paste on the ride-hailing car door "accepts mandarin-speaking passengers only"
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no wonder malaysia bermaju....👍

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QUOTE(captain fast @ May 14 2019, 03:29 PM)
Don't know BM is bullshit. How did they pass the driving test which was conducted in BM in the first place? Come on...stronger excuses please...
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Probably they are illiterate in the 1st place & they get lesen terbang instead.

Kementerian: 14,000 lesen terbang dikeluarkan dalam 2 tahun
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-dalam-2-tahun/

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QUOTE(saikia2046 @ May 14 2019, 02:46 PM)
How they passed their L license if don't know nasional language?
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Previously, theory test was bilingual english/bm. Older people now about 40+ would have gotten their D back then.
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ May 14 2019, 03:34 PM)
u guys laugh now

later not enough driver, the fare goes up

u dont complain
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let the stupid paid more...😂😂😂……
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QUOTE(viole @ May 14 2019, 02:41 PM)
Actually easier if grab implement psv license id in their database and match with ic.

Those who dont have cant register as driver.

But now macam no enforcement.
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If like that, grab can close ady...

They opt for grab becoz no complicated procedures
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ May 14 2019, 03:34 PM)
u guys laugh now

later not enough driver, the fare goes up

u dont complain
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Last time when Uber still exist & was competing with Grab ktard boycott Uber for being slightly more expensive than Grab & laugh at Uber.....then Uber exit from Malaysia market and ktard then complain Grab have become more expensive.

This eHailing is Supply vs Demand....with less driver for sure the price will goes up.

Grab vs Uber = 1 Driver: 500 People
Before July = 1 Driver: 1,000 People
After July = 1 Driver : 10,000 People


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QUOTE(simonblowais @ May 14 2019, 02:37 PM)
Loke must be very happy.... more retake means more income....
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Over the moon.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ May 14 2019, 02:56 PM)
I call bullshit.

The GDL and PSV test is 95% similar. I hv a GDL lesen myself.

If diploma and spm grad can pass it.. How dumb are ehailing drivers?
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I took my GDL about 10 years ago. No Grab or Uber then. What I remember was, about half the people failed. It wasn't difficult then either.

But the type of people taking the test are not your typical uni students. Those type of people, unlikely to be driving lorries or taxis. For bookworm types, you just hit the book(s) like mad for two or three days, and then ace the test. Simple. But our friends who fail and have to re-test ... some never read an entire book since they were in primary school. Not even their own school text books. They're not stupid. They just have a different kind of brain, optimized for other tasks, besides memorizing huge chunks of printed text. I'm sure you know some of them. Hearing that they have to take any test at all ... they think back to their school days, ages ago, when they sucked ... they psyched themselves out before they even sit for the test.

My mom only made it to Form 3. Didn't even complete that. And it was a Mandarin school to boot. Her BM and English was really terrible. When it come time for theory to get her D so that she can drive the car, she keep saying she cannot do. She was nearly 60 by then (driving school say she's their oldest student ever), and never wrote a sentence in English or BM since school. But we worked with her, encouraged her, helped her study the book. Unfortunately for her, she was also one of the first with the then new computerized tests, so even the driving school couldn't tell her what it was like. She worried about how to use a computer to pass a test, but she passed on the first try.
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No, not just credit, must be an A for new SPM grades / or A1 for old SPM.
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u guys laugh now

later not enough driver, the fare goes up

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I think most of the people on this thread are drivers or wannabe drivers.
Riders aren't interested in this stuff.
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Complain?
I think most of the people on this thread are drivers or wannabe drivers.
Riders aren't interested in this stuff.
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QUOTE(viole @ May 14 2019, 02:46 PM)
Still you need to sit for exam. Like driving test. Got pasti lulus package also. Still need to sit for computer test.

And individual psv need to renew also. They can renew no problem je.

Reading the excuses seems like they just dont bother to do this and cook up some bs.
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Did someone match the identity of the person sitting for the computer test? :whistle:
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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ May 14 2019, 03:44 PM)
Last time when Uber still exist & was competing with Grab ktard boycott Uber for being slightly more expensive than Grab & laugh at Uber.....then Uber exit from Malaysia market and ktard then complain Grab have become more expensive.

This eHailing is Supply vs Demand....with less driver for sure the price will goes up.

Grab vs Uber = 1 Driver: 500 People
Before July = 1 Driver: 1,000 People
After July = 1 Driver : 10,000 People
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They are burning money cornering the market and HODL before their ultimate driverless car comes out, then only profit

Its either the company, the drivers, or the passengers who will bear the brunt of the increased cost
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QUOTE(SerioseCat @ May 14 2019, 03:29 PM)
None.

But to pass PSV u need to know how to read BM.

If not, please paste on the ride-hailing car door "accepts mandarin-speaking passengers only"
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Don't know BM is bullshit. How did they pass the driving test which was conducted in BM in the first place? Come on...stronger excuses please...
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From this thread I can see that 'Well to do' peasant are laughing at the 'Not well to do illiterate' peasant who have to drive Grab for a living. The same people are also bitching about Rich vs Poor divide.


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QUOTE(bukechi @ May 14 2019, 02:35 PM)
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u r telling me these grab drivers can't read the road signs n instructions that are in BM?

what if there is a sign saying "Bahaya! Putar Balik! Jambatan Patah" and my grab driver drive terus saja?

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QUOTE(danielkh @ May 14 2019, 03:48 PM)
I took my GDL about 10 years ago. No Grab or Uber then. What I remember was, about half the people failed. It wasn't difficult then either.

But the type of people taking the test are not your typical uni students. Those type of people, unlikely to be driving lorries or taxis. For bookworm types, you just hit the book(s) like mad for two or three days, and then ace the test. Simple. But our friends who fail and have to re-test ... some never read an entire book since they were in primary school. Not even their own school text books. They're not stupid. They just have a different kind of brain, optimized for other tasks, besides memorizing huge chunks of printed text. I'm sure you know some of them. Hearing that they have to take any test at all ... they think back to their school days, ages ago, when they sucked ... they psyched themselves out before they even sit for the test.

My mom only made it to Form 3. Didn't even complete that. And it was a Mandarin school to boot. Her BM and English was really terrible. When it come time for theory to get her D so that she can drive the car, she keep saying she cannot do. She was nearly 60 by then (driving school say she's their oldest student ever), and never wrote a sentence in English or BM since school. But we worked with her, encouraged her, helped her study the book. Unfortunately for her, she was also one of the first with the then new computerized tests, so even the driving school couldn't tell her what it was like. She worried about how to use a computer to pass a test, but she passed on the first try.
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the tests to me, are pretty simple, i took mine last year after needing to cover as backup for high driver absenteeism rate.

granted- the pass rate is min 80%

but alot of the questions are quite logic-based, and the booklet they provide is also quite simple to understand and memorize the key 5/6 key modules and key topics.

its not like PSV ask u to do extra practical lessons like lesen E. its just a theory add on.
and 90% of the attendees back then are from low-education background.

but u kena fasih BM lah. takkan BM tahap nih pun kelong.

QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ May 14 2019, 04:15 PM)
From this thread I can see that 'Well to do' peasant are laughing at the 'Not well to do illiterate' peasant who have to drive Grab for a living. The same people are also bitching about Rich vs Poor divide.
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so you're saying grab drivers literacy is worse than lorry drivers? grab drivers driving bezza and using smartphones are worse than GSM phone user who pakai moto to work?
seriously?

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Aduii nobody force them also, if wanna continue drive Grab just suck it up je la lol

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ May 14 2019, 04:23 PM)
so you're saying grab drivers literacy is worse than lorry drivers? grab drivers driving bezza and using smartphones are worse than GSM phone user who pakai moto to work?
seriously?
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i guess this directly put grab drivers at the lowest "literacy" among all the commercial vehicle drivers... how they get their driving license, probably also from "i help you, you help me model"..
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QUOTE(seather @ May 14 2019, 04:22 PM)
u r telling me these grab drivers can't read the road signs n instructions that are in BM?

what if there is a sign saying "Bahaya! Putar Balik! Jambatan Patah" and my grab driver drive terus saja?
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You have seen such signs before in Malaysia? If there are such things as collapse bridges, at most we will get some generic AWAS road signs and some cones with blinky lights.
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QUOTE(seather @ May 14 2019, 04:22 PM)
u r telling me these grab drivers can't read the road signs n instructions that are in BM?

what if there is a sign saying "Bahaya! Putar Balik! Jambatan Patah" and my grab driver drive terus saja?
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QUOTE(brkli @ May 14 2019, 04:26 PM)
i guess this directly put grab drivers at the lowest "literacy" among all the commercial vehicle drivers... how they get their driving license, probably also from "i help you, you help me model"..
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Grab drivers ranges from illiterate ones up till those with graduate degrees (or maybe even beyond).

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QUOTE(brkli @ May 14 2019, 04:26 PM)
i guess this directly put grab drivers at the lowest "literacy" among all the commercial vehicle drivers... how they get their driving license, probably also from "i help you, you help me model"..
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ahh..
my drivers were just laughing bout this

apa bodoh nih.. susah sangat ke PSV tu aku tahap diploma pun bereh GDL
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ May 14 2019, 04:28 PM)
Grab drivers ranges from illiterate ones up till those with graduate degrees (or maybe even beyond).
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how they get their driving license? smile.gif

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how they get their driving license?  smile.gif
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Thought so many mentioned before d.... most probably lesen terbang. Not that I condone it
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QUOTE(river.sand @ May 14 2019, 02:42 PM)
Last time got pasti lulus package. This was how tax drivers got their PSV.

But since New Malaysia era, this is no longer possible.
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Trust me lulus license still available the only issue are you willing to pay 30 year ago lulus license cost 1.5k to 1.8k , now cost 3.3k to 3.7k why I know when I free I will go the L shop trolling and ask the price

License terbang are different from above sure pay more than above the only issue when you go jpj online site you unable to check how many hour has been learning which month and date the only information is a valid license no information was given from which school

I aslo heard some drivers successful renew their license terbang
With a valid information and details



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Wow grab going so low now !

Last time about taxi complaining.
Now the GRAB drivers complaining about difficult exam?
How low can you go?
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how hard can it be. sigh...
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I wonder how all these guys who failed, pass their objective test during driving license.

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QUOTE(kaffra @ May 14 2019, 03:20 PM)
nope, national language is bahasa melayu. you or your ancestors being granted citizenship doesnt change that
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2019 and you are still stuck in this kind of mind.
🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ No wonder Malaysia will never grow with this kind of mentality. So tourists took grab must talked in Malay only can be allow to use the service? From your statement ald shown that you are racist.
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All exam also susah, semua kasi reform jadilah senang ABC 123!

Lagi baik tak yah sekolah, becoz sekolah also susah!

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If, given a choice, I want the smart to fetch me, not the Stupid that can't even read a road sign!
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QUOTE(mpyw @ May 14 2019, 02:35 PM)
why don't know BM???
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There should have test in 4 major languages, as we got different linggua school too!

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These people are idiots, they can't find proper jobs which is why they become grab drivers

No wonder they complain can't read Bahasa Melayu


I see grab drivers as bottom barrel jobs, same level as toilet cleaner.
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2019 and never use Google translate?

This is not an excuse


Even if u don't understand Malay
You can use Google translate

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Wait a minute. It's been too long but isn't the written test for your driving license only in BM? How are they driving now?
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The new test is done on a PC

You can select English or Malay

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QUOTE(Raddus @ May 14 2019, 06:35 PM)
These people are idiots, they can't find proper jobs which is why they become grab drivers

No wonder they complain can't read Bahasa Melayu
I see grab drivers as bottom barrel jobs, same level as toilet cleaner.
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wow you nampak high kelas jer,so apa pekerjaan ko?
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wow you nampak high kelas jer,so apa pekerjaan ko?
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Mandarin mana.. Cb betul biggrin.gif
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wow,so gaji berapa?
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QUOTE(The_Rock @ May 14 2019, 03:11 PM)
This is called Racist. Should be multi language as we are Malaysian
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They ask for deadline extension if 6 months. Will the test become easier, or they become smarter with the extension?
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QUOTE(khairolnizam @ May 14 2019, 02:43 PM)
It is actually sad to know that with all the amount of budget allocated into education, we still have Malaysians who can't speak/read/write in Malay.

Maybe they grew up in pedalaman, far from school, so education chance were not available to them when they were younger.
Life is tough.
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I agree with your earlier statement. It is just not acceptable that any Malaysian could not converse and read/write in BM. You stay in this country, you have to learn BM. That's it.
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do you know grab drivers can earn more than you?

LOL😂😂😂😂……


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Grab Drivers Malaysia Association president Arif Asyraf Ali said less than 10% of 200,000 drivers for the e-hailing service are now PSV-ready, and cited factors such as steep fees and difficult tests as problems faced by them.

He claimed that many drivers found it difficult to pass the PSV test, adding that they were given questions which are irrelevant to the e-hailing industry.

“I heard from my colleague that about 100 drivers went to sit for the test, and all them failed.

“Books are not allowed and the only language used is in Bahasa,” he told reporters today, adding that many drivers could not read or write in Malay.

LEL .. the new taxi is now born...

inb4 Tak tau BM... are they even malaysian? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(khairolnizam @ May 14 2019, 02:43 PM)
It is actually sad to know that with all the amount of budget allocated into education, we still have Malaysians who can't speak/read/write in Malay.

Maybe they grew up in pedalaman, far from school, so education chance were not available to them when they were younger.
Life is tough.
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That's why they drive grab and need kebajikan help.

and that's why need NEP.
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I dont think its because dont know malay language, more to malay term they dont understand or know.. like on top of my head i cant think what is zebra crossing or roudabout in malay.
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QUOTE(The_Rock @ May 14 2019, 11:12 AM)
2019 and you are still stuck in this kind of mind.
🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ No wonder Malaysia will never grow with this kind of mentality. So tourists took grab must talked in Malay only can be allow to use the service? From your statement ald shown that you are racist.
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Not racist.

Malaysians in Malaysia should know how to speak Bahasa Malaysia.

If you can’t, gtfo.
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dont know BM??? foreigner issit?? even bangla and nepal could speak BM laa
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“ He claimed that many drivers found it difficult to pass the PSV test, adding that they were given questions which are irrelevant to the e-hailing industry”.

I think more on this part. Drivers didnt see it coming kot.
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grab drivers are brainlets.
if they're smart they won't do such work.
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Lulz

It is a test of course book not allowed
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ May 14 2019, 06:48 PM)
Grab Drivers Malaysia Association president Arif Asyraf Ali said less than 10% of 200,000 drivers for the e-hailing service are now PSV-ready, and cited factors such as steep fees and difficult tests as problems faced by them.

He claimed that many drivers found it difficult to pass the PSV test, adding that they were given questions which are irrelevant to the e-hailing industry.

“I heard from my colleague that about 100 drivers went to sit for the test, and all them failed.

“[I]Books are not allowed[B] and the only language used is in Bahasa,” he told reporters today, adding that many drivers could not read or write in Malay.

LEL .. the new taxi is now born...

inb4 Tak tau BM...  are they even malaysian? tongue.gif
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Stay in Malaysia, but still can't read BM. You expect everything spoonfed?
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ May 14 2019, 07:05 PM)
Not racist.

Malaysians in Malaysia should know how to speak Bahasa Malaysia.

If you can’t, gtfo.
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bagus fail semua.. tinggal teksi jer.. i lup TAAAXXXIII... Taxi drivers so prefessional. so qualified with their PSV..
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ May 14 2019, 02:35 PM)
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bagus fail semua.. tinggal teksi jer.. i lup TAAAXXXIII...  Taxi drivers so prefessional. so qualified with their PSV..
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boss taxi happi!yeah bagus!bini Prada bag in progress...👍
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No such thing as don't understand BM. Born in MY should be able to master the language in no time.
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anyone in /k have the test question?

really want to know what question is being ask.


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The real issue is not the psv test itself. It's that gahmen is slapping tax n fee on everything they can get they hands on. air flying fee for intl flight, now rideshare fee, nxt time digital tax.

M40 kena squeeze more into b40. Even wif all these tax deficit keep increase but still 3rd world stuck in mid inkamb trap.
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QUOTE(poooky @ May 14 2019, 07:42 PM)
The real issue is not the psv test itself. It's that gahmen is slapping tax n fee on everything they can get they hands on. air flying fee for intl flight, now rideshare fee, nxt time digital tax.

M40 kena squeeze more into b40. Even wif all these tax deficit keep increase but still 3rd world stuck in mid inkamb trap.
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do you know grab drivers can earn more than you?

LOL😂😂😂😂……
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you got prook drive grab earn 6k ka?

these figures feel like old figures during their hay days....
now macam keje ciput, just trying to keep car installment alive.
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ May 14 2019, 07:49 PM)
you got prook drive grab earn 6k ka?

these figures feel like old figures during their hay days....
now macam keje ciput, just trying to keep car installment alive.
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I dont think its because dont know malay language, more to malay term they dont understand or know.. like on top of my head i cant think what is zebra crossing or roudabout in malay.
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many drivers could not read or write in Malay

bangla?
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“ He claimed that many drivers found it difficult to pass the PSV test, adding that they were given questions which are irrelevant to the e-hailing industry”.

I think more on this part. Drivers didnt see it coming kot.
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someone told me before, who does grab as well, one of the questions asked when, what year was bluetaxi group formed.
how is that even related to e-hailing i have no idea...
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someone told me before, who does grab as well, one of the questions asked when, what year was bluetaxi group formed.
how is that even related to e-hailing i have no idea...
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someone told me before, who does grab as well, one of the questions asked when, what year was bluetaxi group formed.
how is that even related to e-hailing i have no idea...
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Walau.
That kind of question really WTF type.
No wonder many failed the test.

Next question: Apakah nama penuh suami Siti Nurhaliza? LOL

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welll, thats why they are grab drivers. they arent literate.
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The gov clearly think only degree holders are qualify.... Oh wait even our degree holders hardly qualify to hold a degree.
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That’s a gross income of about RM4,548 a month weh!


factor in petrol first for driving 10 hours a day
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yay grab will get less driver and thus less customer and service will fall

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So, if it is true that e-hailing PSV is so much more difficult than taxi PSV, why doesn't all the full timers simply go take the taxi PSV instead? Grab says that people with tax PSV don't have to take e-hailing PSV as well.

4. As an existing taxi driver, will I still need to apply for another e-hailing PSV licence?
No, as an existing taxi driver, you may use your existing PSV licence for e-hailing.

https://www.grab.com/my/driver/regulations/

Costs quite a bit more, but if the e-hailing PSV is really that much more impossible to pass, this is surely one solution for them.
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Actually what is the purpose of PSV? Does it makes them better drivers?
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Actually what is the purpose of PSV? Does it makes them better drivers?
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if not Pao, yes.

because Grabdrivesr in general are no different from average P drivers.
They like to stop wherever is convenient for them (not the public), they think they're all big men/women with new car with dashcam, they don't know the roads they drive on so they end up driving like auntie when taking turns cause waiting for Waze direction.
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ May 16 2019, 08:52 AM)
if not Pao, yes.

because Grabdrivesr in general are no different from average P drivers.
They like to stop wherever is convenient for them (not the public), they think they're all big men/women with new car with dashcam, they don't know the roads they drive on so they end up driving like auntie when taking turns cause waiting for Waze direction.
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Erhmm some taxi drivers and lorries sort of like that also... I see no difference.

What exactly in the PSV syllabus that is actually useful?
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Erhmm some taxi drivers and lorries sort of like that also... I see no difference.

What exactly in the PSV syllabus that is actually useful?
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Taxi drivers. I can't disagree on shit attitude.
Lorry drivers are more competent in driving. They're just asshole in parking, mainly because it's not easy to maneuver their 20 feet long trailers


The difference between Taxi/Lorry drivers and Grab drivers is that they know their route.
They're not lady (or men drive like lady) drivers that P drivers. They die die want to take Waze route and don't plan ahead when it comes to upcoming exits etc. They'll make sudden turns onto exit ramps and would be willing to stop all traffic just so they can get into their preferred lane.

This is my anecdote from driving behind Grab drivers.
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Actually what is the purpose of PSV? Does it makes them better drivers?
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It is a market barrier, the main purpose of which is to raise the income of the market participants. If everybody and their uncle can just go join the market whenever they feel like it, the the price will crash until we reach the point where sellers make what is economically called "normal profit". It does not mean what you think it means. In economics, when talking about free markets, when you're making "normal profit", prices are so low, you're actually making no profit at all. It is the theoretical minimum sustainable price. You're just covering costs and barely surviving. If a single additional seller enters the market, the price will dip ever so slightly, that everybody start to go into negative territory.

This sort of barrier exists in every field, in every job, and is probably necessary, if the people in those industries are to many enough to live on. The question is only on how much of a barrier is reasonable. The most obvious is in some sort of licensing requirements.

The secondary purpose is to raise some funds for the government. It's only a tiny amount, but license fees are everywhere.

The third purpose is to protect some groups, who would get angry otherwise, and not vote for the politicians who remove their rice bowl. You now, those driving schools.

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QUOTE(danielkh @ May 16 2019, 09:38 AM)
It is a market barrier, the main purpose of which is to raise the income of the market participants. If everybody and their uncle can just go join the market whenever they feel like it, the the price will crash until we reach the point where sellers make what is economically called "normal profit". It does not mean what you think it means. In economics, when talking about free markets, when you're making "normal profit", prices are so low, you're actually making no profit at all. It is the theoretical minimum sustainable price. You're just covering costs and barely surviving. If a single additional seller enters the market, the price will dip ever so slightly, that everybody start to go into negative territory.

This sort of barrier exists in every field, in every job, and is probably necessary, if the people in those industries are to many enough to live on. The question is only on how much of a barrier is reasonable. The most obvious is in some sort of licensing requirements.

The secondary purpose is to raise some funds for the government. It's only a tiny amount, but license fees are everywhere.

The third purpose is to protect some groups, who would get angry otherwise, and not vote for the politicians who remove their rice bowl. You now, those driving schools.
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The same protectionism that caused the whole industry to stagnate in the first place.

Trying to run things the old way... or "how things should be done" is folly. There is no progress to it, if it is not regressing in the first place. Competition breeds efficiency... let the less efficient ones die off.
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Erhmm some taxi drivers and lorries sort of like that also... I see no difference.

What exactly in the PSV syllabus that is actually useful?
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More with grab than taxi.
Grab like to just stop on the road even when there is passenger pick up area next to it.
Just go KLCC and have a look.
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QUOTE(LamboSama @ May 16 2019, 09:52 AM)
More with grab than taxi.
Grab like to just stop on the road even when there is passenger pick up area next to it.
Just go KLCC and have a look.
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This one I suspect they are scared kena bantai by taxi drivers
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ May 16 2019, 09:02 AM)
Taxi drivers. I can't disagree on shit attitude.
Lorry drivers are more competent in driving. They're just asshole in parking, mainly because it's not easy to maneuver their 20 feet long trailers
20 ft are half sized containers. We see these on the road once in a while. Standard size trailers are 40 feet long. Especially considering that joint/hitch that swivels, I'm amazed that they could maneuver it anywhere at all. I have driven those regular small lorries that only need a D + GDL. Driving them was easy. Parking was extremely difficult, even though they're so much smaller than those big trucks.. And note that you don't have a rear view mirror, because it's blocked by back of the truck.

Every other day on the road, I see inconsiderate car drivers who over take trucks and then immediately pull back to the left ahead of the truck, without leaving sufficient braking distance. Not only can't trucks stop very fast because they're heavy, if the driver stopped too suddenly, they can get killed by their own load shifting forward and into the cab, crushing the back of their head.
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The difference between Taxi/Lorry drivers and Grab drivers is that they know their route.
They're not lady (or men drive like lady) drivers that P drivers. They die die want to take Waze route and don't plan ahead when it comes to upcoming exits etc. They'll make sudden turns onto exit ramps and would be willing to stop all traffic just so they can get into their preferred lane.

This is my anecdote from driving behind Grab drivers.
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I am wondering if this is because Grab drivers are forever afraid of getting bad ratings from riders. If they miss the Waze indicated turn, the trip may take longer, and the rider could get unhappy because this waste their time, and result in a bad rating. If follow the waze route, there's no reason to complain.

Taxi drivers don't really care. If they miss one turn, you can complain, and nothing will happen. Not unless they take you on a 100km detour. Otherwise, you file the complain, it disappears into someone's desk never to be heard of again. Furthermore, grab rides are fixed price, but taxi rides are metered. So they lose nothing from the additional petrol and time spent getting you to your destination.
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ May 16 2019, 09:54 AM)
This one I suspect they are scared kena bantai by taxi drivers
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Scared but act worse than taxi driver.
QUOTE(danielkh @ May 16 2019, 09:54 AM)
20 ft are half sized containers. We see these on the road once in a while. Standard size trailers are 40 feet long. Especially considering that joint/hitch that swivels, I'm amazed that they could maneuver it anywhere at all. I have driven those regular small lorries that only need a D + GDL. Driving them was easy. Parking was extremely difficult, even though they're so much smaller than those big trucks.. And note that you don't have a rear view mirror, because it's blocked by back of the truck.

Every other day on the road, I see inconsiderate car drivers who over take trucks and then immediately pull back to the left ahead of the truck, without leaving sufficient braking distance. Not only can't trucks stop very fast because they're heavy, if the driver stopped too suddenly, they can get killed by their own load shifting forward and into the cab, crushing the back of their head.

I am wondering if this is because Grab drivers are forever afraid of getting bad ratings from riders. If they miss the Waze indicated turn, the trip may take longer, and the rider could get unhappy because this waste their time, and result in a bad rating. If follow the waze route, there's no reason to complain.

Taxi drivers don't really care. If they miss one turn, you can complain, and nothing will happen. Not unless they take you on a 100km detour. Otherwise, you file the complain, it disappears into someone's desk never to be heard of again. Furthermore, grab rides are fixed price, but taxi rides are metered. So they lose nothing from the additional petrol and time spent getting you to your destination.
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ May 16 2019, 09:49 AM)
The same protectionism that caused the whole industry to stagnate in the first place.

Trying to run things the old way... or "how things should be done" is folly. There is no progress to it, if it is not regressing in the first place. Competition breeds efficiency... let the less efficient ones die off.
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There's protectionism everywhere. What are you working as in your day job? Say you're a lawyer or an accountant. The government regulates who qualifies to call themselves a lawyer or an accountant. Some reason for those regulations. Mainly market protection. Otherwise, lawyers and accountants will earn as much as bus drivers.

The people within the profession will hide behind it and say that regulation is to ensure some sort of guaranteed service level. I predict the same will happen here. Come July 12, the deadline will get postponed again. But eventually, there will be enforcement and some sort of regulation (whether watered down or not). And the people remaining in it, will claim that the PSV training and licensing will provide some assurance that drivers are conscientious good drivers on the road and not rude to passengers. "But ehailing drivers drive badly and are rude. We hear that all the time", you say. The obvious response is, "without any regulation at all, it will even be worse". They will be wrong. But there's no way for you to prove it.

PS: there is a difference in terms of degrees of market protection. It takes a couple of hours, maybe a day or two, to get the PSV, and a few hundred RM. To get a law degree and pass the bar, it's years of study and a lot more RM. But in the end, it's still market protection.

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I always maintain Loke is the most useless minister in PH. Things like this cannot manage at earlier stage.
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I always maintain Loke is the most useless minister in PH. Things like this cannot manage at earlier stage.
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Nah. He's just simply in public too much. The smarter incompetents simply keep their heads down and let the KSUs keep things running. This way, you don't know that they've not done anything. If you don't try to fix anything, there's less chance of you screwing things up.
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Nah. He's just simply in public too much. The smarter incompetents simply keep their heads down and let the KSUs keep things running. This way, you don't know that they've not done anything. If you don't try to fix anything, there's less chance of you screwing things up.
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This is what they meant by sabotaging.
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QUOTE(danielkh @ May 16 2019, 10:04 AM)
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PS: there is a difference in terms of degrees of market protection. It takes a couple of hours, maybe a day or two, to get the PSV, and a few hundred RM. To get a law degree and pass the bar, it's years of study and a lot more RM. But in the end, it's still market protection.
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If you need a defense attorney, will you get one from a reputable institution or just any cap ayam one?

If you need a ride, will you a PSV-certified taxi driver or just a Grab driver?

There is a distinct difference here. One actually came with proper training (and all the benefits from it), and the other... just for the sake of it.
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Normally first time always failed 99 one. Once they used to it. I think a lot of cheats will come up to help to pass.
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born & live in m'sia edi for how many years? still dunno BM?
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QUOTE(brkli @ May 14 2019, 02:40 PM)
just born in Malaysia ke? since primary school already like this. annnnd, i guess u know how they get their driving license..
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ May 16 2019, 08:52 AM)
if not Pao, yes.

because Grabdrivesr in general are no different from average P drivers.
They like to stop wherever is convenient for them (not the public), they think they're all big men/women with new car with dashcam, they don't know the roads they drive on so they end up driving like auntie when taking turns cause waiting for Waze direction.
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They have to jaga rating la. Drop off rider too far later drop star
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The difference between who pass the test then we know that you know. Where as the one who do not take the test then we not sure you know.

Therefore for one who pass the test ignorance is not an excuse
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ May 16 2019, 10:26 AM)
If you need a defense attorney, will you get one from a reputable institution or just any cap ayam one?

If you need a ride, will you a PSV-certified taxi driver or just a Grab driver?

There is a distinct difference here. One actually came with proper training (and all the benefits from it), and the other... just for the sake of it.
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If I just need a lawyer to sign on my house purchase? Reputation and cap ayam is not regulated by the government. Even cap ayam lawyer have passed through the hoops.

There's a doctor near my house with his own clinic. One man show, quiet run down. No staff, just he himself. And his appearance also not very neat. If I were sick, I wouldn't go to him. But I always get my medical report for GDL from him. He's also good for getting MCs from. Empty clinic. No queue, no wait, no fuss. He is a properly qualified doctor. Very cheap.

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QUOTE(biggie @ May 16 2019, 12:33 PM)
The difference between who pass the test then we know that you know. Where as the one who do not take the test then we not sure you know.

Therefore for one who pass the test ignorance is not an excuse
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I passed my GDL a decade ago. If you asked me now what was in it, I could barely tell you anything. Taxi drivers in their 40s and 50s, if they started driving 30 years ago, there's just no way anyone could remember anything.

The only way is continuous retesting every 5 years or so. But I am sure everybody mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif till steam come out
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QUOTE(danielkh @ May 17 2019, 11:40 AM)
I passed my GDL a decade ago. If you asked me now what was in it, I could barely tell you anything. Taxi drivers in their 40s and 50s, if they started driving 30 years ago, there's just no way anyone could remember anything.

The only way is continuous retesting every 5 years or so. But I am sure everybody  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif till steam come out
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In many countries there are retesting especially for commercial driver... if I got my way then to all commercial drivers here also need to be retested every 5-10 years.
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QUOTE(biggie @ May 17 2019, 12:31 PM)
In many countries there are retesting especially for commercial driver... if I got my way then to all commercial drivers here also need to be retested every 5-10 years.
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I'm with you, even if it means I have to resit the test periodically myself.

But I think if we put in a dash of realism, that's never going to happen. If people are already up in arms over one single test, and so many are having trouble passing it, and some are even looking back at the "good old days" when things could be greased with corruption ... rolleyes.gif
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They have to jaga rating la. Drop off rider too far later drop star
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Right, rating force us listen to riders, in the end risking our safety. Tag MOT and have him remove this stupid rating system from driver app. Got problem ask riders to complain manually and formally over phone call like old days, action taken upon driver or not then grab decide. Not stupid shit like that tap tap tap in app done rating.
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Put aside BM language as a failure reason lah. Most of them who failed was meleis oso. Takkan bahase nenek moyang sendri pun phailed. Alasan semua ni.


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Put aside BM language as a failure reason lah. Most of them who failed was meleis oso. Takkan bahase nenek moyang sendri pun phailed. Alasan semua ni.
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Shit, taxi driver win this time. Malaysia revert to taxi era,

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