I want to buy refillable ink printer which can save cost on ink. I am not technical person, so not sure how to choose...

I saw Brother DCP-T510W has a good price, just RM455...but the refill ink cost RM140/set.

While Epson L3150 cost RM635 and refill ink cost RM86/set.

Which one is better in term of quality? can tahan lama and easy to maintain...

I saw some people mentioned about choosing ciss...i am not sure what is that Do I need to choose the ciss?

Sorry for many questions...i really don't know about technical. Thank you!

This post has been edited by Vtanjin: May 12 2019, 11:37 PM

canon g2010. using it for a year and no problems at all

epson. print few k pages still kicking until i abandoned my laser printer

epson and dont get ciss. nowadays printer comes with ciss ald

This type of printer if your usage is heavy then probably can consider, i have Brother DCP-T700W, repaired 3 times (changed print head) during warranty period, the problem came back again after warranty period, my usage was very low so maybe this is the problem, now i switch to color laser printer.

Got it....Thanks for your comment!

I appreciate your discussion. If you really want to buy a refillable ink printer then contact Printoxe company. Printoxe provides a different brands of printer ink at a very affordable price, you can purchase Brother toner cartridge and ink through our website.


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Okay here is a more updated answer. I think based on the time you posted this question, I am sure you already probably went ahead and got 1 bought.

Anyways, this is for those who have NOT bought yet and are considering it.
The following is the questions you NEED to know so that will give you an accurate idea on what is best option for you.

1) Are u the person who will print regularly ? Say once a day or at least many times a week ? or are you someone who prints periodically when the need arises only ?

2) Do you print in Colour all the time or do you regularly print in Black / White / Monochrome documents ? or do you print both colour and b/w all the time ? Or you only wish to print more 4R Photos or in photo papers rather than in A4 papers.

3) Do you need other features in your printer such as Scanning, Fax or Wireless Printing ? Or you just Need a Friggin printer nothing else ?

4) Do you need a printer that can print FAST or speed is not really your problem ?

This questions will help you determine on the Type of printer which will best suite you.

>> If you want fast printing and don't wish to care about ink problems, and you do have a bigger budget to spend, you want a printer that can print B/W documents fast and hassle free ? and you Dont Print all too regularly ?

- Most suitable type of printer for you maybe a Laserjet printer actually. NOT an InkJet. LaserJet is super fast printing compared to InkJet. But Laserjet uses Toner instead of ink cartridges or bottles. Toner's can get a bit more expensive. But a Regular toner will be able to help you print at least Thousands if not Hundreds of papers A4 sizes.

>> If you dont care about speed. But you care about efficiency or quality of print, Especially in Colour docs. You care about printing a lot of photos as well and not so much on printing Documents on A4 papers.

-- If this is your case, best bet is to get yourself an InkJet Printer.
If you are someone who will print regularly as well, then go for an Ink Tank type of printer.

* So what in the heck is an Ink Tank type of printer ? Basically, Printers are normally either Ink Catridges based or Toner based in terms for refill. However, recently due to the rising cost of Printer inks catridges and toners. People complained and so the CISS system was formed.

* CISS stands for Constant Ink Supply System. Which is basically a kind of procedure you need to do on your printer so it has an Ink tank rather than rely on ink cartridges. CISS can be done on many printers nowadays, but IT IS A VERY VERY VERY Technical thing. Best Left it to specialists who know How to do it. NEVER DO A DIY on this, unless youre an expert on it.
CISS basically is like a Hack thingy for a printer. You make the printer become an Ink Tank printer. It will have its own Ink Tank. Where you now refill the tank using Ink Bottles instead of regularly changing the cartridges when it gets empty. CISS is for people who Print a lot or on a regularl basis and wish to Save huge amounts of money in buying ink costs.

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+ CISS does have its downside off course. If you are not the type of person who prints regularly, then you may come into a major problem later on. CISS based printers uses inks on a tank. So when you dont print, that ink on the tank may dry up or WORSE...it can start clogging up your Printer Head. Removing a clogged Printer Head is SUCH A SUPER HEADACHE. You need to be quite TECHNICAL to do that.

Best bet is to give it to the printer repair specialists to help you unclogg it. WORST case scenario is that, since the Printer Head is damaged due to the ink clogged. REPLACING a printer head is VERY expensive. It can be up to a few hundred ringgits just to buy a Printer head. THAT'S JUST the head. Then its TRYING to fix the printer head becomes another headache. SO BE SMART... buy an Ink Tank or a CISS type printer ONLY IF YOU ARE GONNA PRINT quite a bit.

* A good thing is that nowadays there is also an InkTank type of printers. Ink Tank printers are basically Built in CISS type of printer. These kinda printers, you dont need to buy ink cartridges. You only need to buy ink bottles. ITS a very good way forward by Printing companies to already manufacture this kinds of printers. It really removes the hassles of editing your printer into a CISS system.


++ In terms of buying an Ink Jet or Ink Tank type of printer. There is only a handfull of brands you can choose from. Its going to be either a HP, EPSON, BROTHER or a CANON.

Heres the pros and cons of the following brands to consider.

HP - Has a lot of features, but ink can be a bit costly. HP printers are very hard to do CISS due to the strict security of its microchips. HP I find its best and most suitable for Black / White printing. HP Printers are generally quite FAST. Especially on B/W docs.

Epson - Great for printing in Colour. Ink can be really costly and Epson printers can get obsolete VERY VERY fast. My Epson printer which could print borderless has scan features quickly became an obsolete design. Could not even find the Cartridge for that printer anymore. And due to its obsolete nature... could not even Fix a CISS on it. So now its a dinosaur that is going to be sold off soon. Any takers here ? LOL!


Canon - Has a good logo and created a good brand name. However, in terms of efficiency and reliability its good. Its parts, refill inks and bottles are easily found. But in terms of quality of print its still falls short of its competitors. Canon printers are usually more expensive than the others and by specs does seem to fall behind. YET canon printers can be more expensive than the rest. We believe its because of the name of the brand. Its a Canon.

Brother - Is basically always like the underdog in the Printer industry. Brother seems to always outdo the rest of the competition in specs. But this is in PAPER. Not sure if its as good in reality. Brother printers boasts very very good print quality. but its mostly slower than its rest. Colour printer category its regarded one of the best. Brother printers cartridges or toners are One of the most RAREST to find. Like Epson, Brother also faces the QUICKLY going obsolete problem. But Brother can save you long term investments due to the cheapness of its ink costs. Brother printers also prints fast on BW. Not so FAST in the colour printing tho.


To me, if you are going for a Good INK Tank type of printer. Here's some suggestions for you : -

1) Canon Pixma G2010 :
Resolution : 4800 x 1200 dpi
B/W A4 Doc : 8.8 ppm
Speed:
Colour A4 doc : 5.0 PPM
Borderless 4R Photo paper : approx 60 sec PPM

Paper Handling --
Canon : no of A4 Papers held in tray : 100 papers
no of 4R Photo papers in tray : 10 papers

Ink Yields :
Canon : 4 bottles -CMYK
A4 Size Up to : 6000 B/W pages
A4 Size up to : 7000 Colour pages
Canon : Print, Scan & Copy, USB connection
No Wifi, Ink Tank.

2) Epson L3110 :
Resolution : 5760 x 1440 dpi
Speed : B/w Doc A4 size : 10 PPM
Colour A4 size : 5 PPM
Borderless 4R Photo print : 69 sec per paper

Paper Handling --
no of A4 Papers held in tray : 100 papers
no of 4R Photo papers in tray : 20 papers

Ink Yields :
Epson : 4 Bottles - CMYK
A4 Size Up to : 8100 B/W pages
A4 Size up to : 7500 Colour pages
Epson : Print, Scan & Copy, USB connection
No Wifi, Ink Tank.

3) Brother DCP-T420W
Resolution : : 1200 X 6000 dpi
Speed :
B/w Doc A4 : 16 PPM
Colour A4 : 9 PPM
Borderless 4R Photo Print : 10 sec per paper

Paper Handling
No of A4 Papers held in tray : 150 papers
no of 4R Photo papers in tray : 150 papers

Ink Yields :
Brother : 4 Bottles - CMYK
A4 size up to : 7,500 B/W Pages
A4 size up to : 5000 Colour Pages
( NOTE the ink bottles that come with this printer when you buy it Brand new, DOES NOT FILL UP the tank 100%. The bottles that come in with the printer only fills up to 60% of the tank. )

Brother : Print, Scan & Copy, USB and WIFI connection, Ink Tank

Prices of these printers in Shopee or Lazada is within this range. Could be more or less.

Canon Pixma G2010 : MYR599

Epson L3110 : MYR 599
( there is one in shopee that goes for
MYR 549 ) which includes 3 free gifts as well. -- Subject to whilst stocks lasts

Brother DCP T420W : MYR 572


ME personally... I bought the Brother DCP T420W just last weekend. So far its good. But its still VERY VERY Brand new to me. Its still within its first week since I bought it.

Planning to buy one of the Ink tank printer from your recommended list, may I ask so far how is your Brother printer's working conditions, still good?

Epson is very reliable, but you need to take it to shop for reset and change the bottom waste ink sponge when the printer reached it's limit and then it can run again. I used Epson to print photo reports alot in my work place before, sometimes like few thousand pages a month at peak. But Epson print quality is not good on default setting, must use the "quality" mode but it print really slowly, sometimes I set my print queue on maximum amount of paper i can fit into the printer and then go out for lunch on lunchtime.

canon g3020 also ok , can replace the Maintenance Cartridge (=waste ink absorber) by yourself, rm50ish for each . no need to pay sb else for the software/hardware to reset the waste ink counter.

No wonder someone dug an old topic...
I have a Brother T700 in my office and at first I loved it. Dont get me wrong, it is still working fine to date. Just hate the slow wifi printing especially when it involved a picture and color. Actually there is a lot of printer reviews on youtube especially one that involved with Brother brand. Our friends over in India loved to do printing speed comparison and you will get a lot of info from their video.

Ah, same problem with Brother. Took it to the shop to replace it the first time when I encountered blocked print head. Not long after I encounter the same problem again (maybe due to print head cleaning after the print head got clogged again). Fed up, I improvised. Prepared a roll of toilet paper. Folded a significant amount and press on the absorbent pad. Drip some water and press some fresh toilet paper again. Repeat the same step until I get very faded color. Guess what, no more errors.

epsom never had any print head problems, the error i mentioned was print counter to replace the sponge and it's like 10000 pages or more

Old thread being revived but
Epson would be the "original" that first introduced CISS in their printers from the factory instead of 3rd party mods
But that doesn't matter too much

I myself still use the Brother DCP-T510W till this day since 2018, it's fine other than one time Yellow ink turned brown(?). No idea how that happened but printing an entire sheet of pure yellow fixed it

Only had to refill ink once after so many years

I'm looking for an all-in-one printer and already dive down to the following models:

Epson L3250 vs Epson L3550 newer version.

Looking at the L3250, it seems like a reliable printer and there's a lot of spare parts available at shopee.

- software to reset counters
- Maintenance box is not chipped meaning you can easily change sponge and reset the counters
- Cheaper than L3550
- There's original spare parts available such as Ink Assembly etc

X Slow printing


L3550
- Newer system
- faster printing

X Waste tank is chipped, don't think it can be reset with the Epson software
X There's no spare parts on the market yet


Any reasons for me to go with latest L3550? or I should stick to L3250?

Mainly for home printing, won't be printing a lot of pages a month.

This post has been edited by thankyou: Sep 3 2023, 12:03 AM

If you do not need colour then mono laser printer is better or if you don't mind the high initial cost of colour laser printer.

Printer for normal printing is a mature technology. Just choose the one within your budget.

In the end which printer did u buy? Can share your tought process and how was it so far?

In the end, I didn't buy any of the inkjet printer because I don't think I'm printing frequently enough and I worry the ink may dry off.

I've bought Brother HL-L3230CDN laser printer and I've very satisfied with the printer.