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post May 6 2019, 12:44 PM, updated 7y ago

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A TOTAL of 1.42 million people have registered for 1Malaysia People’s Housing Programme (PR1MA), a promise of one million homes by 2020, but only 16,682 units or 1.6% of the target were completed between 2013 and 2018, costing the government billions in public fund.

The national housing company launched in July 2011 by Datuk Seri Mohd Najib Razak has been a disaster despite more than RM8 billion being injected into the state-owned affordable housing scheme.

Established under the PR1MA Act 2012, the then government had a grand design to plan, develop, construct and maintain high-quality housing with lifestyle concepts for those with a monthly household income of between RM2,500 and RM15,000.

But poor management, exorbitant land acquisition costs and unsuitable sites have turned the people’s housing project into a major financial flop.

PR1MA’s failure, which could cost billions to the new government already saddled with ballooning debts, made the loss-making company untenable.

Property experts agree that PR1MA should be dissolved to cut the government’s losses and subsequently improve the market which is plagued with thousands of unsold homes.

VPC Asia Pacific property consultant Bruce Lee said the affordable housing programme has failed due to the mismanagement of the previous government.

“PR1MA business model was already wrong in the beginning because it focused too much on achieving a political agenda rather than being a market-driven initiative.

“The selection of land for PR1MA projects was not market-driven for some reasons. The locations were not attractive, the house prices were never affordable, the house qualities were bad, and the technology used in building them was not efficient enough,” he told The Malaysian Reserve.

Worries of PR1MA financial woes heighten as the government conducts a comprehensive audit of the company. The due diligence report, which is expected to be completed within two months, will determine PR1MA’s fate.

Housing and Local Government Minister Zuraida Kamaruddin has not ruled out the possibility that the “ill-managed agency” may be dissolved.

PR1MA has been moved into her portfolio and supervised by the National Affordable Housing Council.

Many developers had questioned PR1MA’s ability to deliver that many homes when the country’s total construction of houses is less than 100,000 units annually.

“The government policy was not clear. A lot of these homes were built without proper market and feasibility studies. They were built in isolated locations which caused them to have very few takers when completed,” said VPC Alliance (KL) Sdn Bhd MD James Wong who believes that PR1MA was not managed well.

“There was no proper business plan in achieving its target. There was also a lack of available land and PR1MA had to acquire them, and had to actually acquire them at a high price,” Wong said.

The 16,682 completed homes are located in states where a RM300,000 house purchase is beyond the ability of many.

Perak topped the list of the completed units with 6,403 homes, followed by Kedah with 3,341 homes. As of August 2018, there were 130 ongoing projects, with 131,000 units under construction and 268,000 PR1MA units approved at the policy stage.

PR1MA is already banned from developing new projects. “At this point, we are not going to have new projects for PR1MA while cleaning up the current situation, including its stocks and debts,” said Zuraida recently.

According to the Valuation and Property Services Department First-Half 2017 property market report, there were 20,876 unsold units worth RM12.26 billion in the country, and that Kedah surpassed Johor, accounting for nearly 21% (4,363 units) of the total unsold units.

The glut in Kedah was due to the unsold completed units which were mostly PR1MA projects in the Kuala Muda and Baling districts. The Kuala Muda district recorded 3,401 completed unsold units, of which nearly 69% comprised PR1MA houses and were priced mostly in the range of RM300,000 to RM400,000.

PPC International Sdn Bhd MD Datuk Siders Sittampalam said it was too costly for PR1MA to operate.

“The initial plan was to give land to PR1MA to build affordable homes, but the land belonged to the state governments, and state governments had their own affordable home programmes.

“There was a lack of land available for PR1MA and it was expensive for PR1MA to acquire land in main towns where the demand is. PR1MA had to fork out its own money, while providing homes cheaper than the others,” he said, adding that PR1MA ended up acquiring cheaper land with low demand in order to hit its target.

Despite the over 1.4 million who have registered with PR1MA, many aspiring buyers find themselves to be outside the bracket to finance the homes.

“There is also the issue of affordability, where buyers could not afford the homes and were not yet able to secure the loans,” said Asiacap Valuers & Property Consultants Sdn Bhd property valuers Kit Au Yong.

“The restriction in terms of reselling — which is locked in a period of 10 years — and (being) unable to rent them, make the PR1MA homes a limited asset, unlike normal houses. They make the homes less appealing to buyers,” he added.

“PR1MA was a good initiative. In order to make it work, we need a more cohesive resources allocation and better aligned ecosystem so that all those gaps can be narrowed. All those factors mentioned — location, land, financing, affordability, restriction — need to be tackle as a whole,” Au Yong said.

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It's like Rumah WIP, cause government owned land, but no developer; so developer build 1 rumah WIP then another luxury condo right beside
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Pui..
Its just the people dont have enough money to buy it.
We are too poor.
Rumah selangorku apa cerita? Same story..
Lagi tak nampak bangunan..
Please stop playing blaming game..
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hahaha this house program is good but only a few people can afford it..
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QUOTE(xtrabite @ May 6 2019, 01:09 PM)
Pui..
Its just the people dont have enough money to buy it.
We are too poor.
Rumah selangorku apa cerita? Same story..
Lagi tak nampak bangunan..
Please stop playing blaming game..
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Established under the PR1MA Act 2012, the then government had a grand design to plan, develop, construct and maintain high-quality housing with lifestyle concepts for those with a monthly household income of between RM2,500 and RM15,000.



Looks very good on paper/ambitions and knowing Malaysians... even if gomen (then or now) fulfil their side of the obligations ... the ball is now in the rakyats hand whether to turn it into an utopia or slum.

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It's real.
PRIMA location is not cantek. Not all but most.

On the contrary rumawip location is quite good (cause in Kl? Kl is well-developed, build anywhere is fine?)

Selangorku location is acceptable.
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A TOTAL of 1.42 million people have registered for 1Malaysia People’s Housing Programme (PR1MA), a promise of one million homes by 2020, but only 16,682 units or 1.6% of the target were completed between 2013 and 2018, costing the government billions in public fund.

The national housing company launched in July 2011 by Datuk Seri Mohd Najib Razak has been a disaster despite more than RM8 billion being injected into the state-owned affordable housing scheme.

8 billion spent.. and only 16k houses...
and BN/PAS macai Still love najib.... Bodo nak mampus..
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If you ask Najib, he would say "Tak tahu".
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they dont have enough fund for it.

many prima cotractors didnt get or very very much delayed payment
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post May 6 2019, 01:21 PM

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PRIMA current chairman after the may 9 election is also a director of MKH, a development company

Of course now trying to discredit PRIMA so that no more "affordable housing" and people will need to go for "luxury condo" from developers
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i aimed for bukit bintang and brickfields one also cant get chance

the only two nice spot

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8b for 16k houses yoh...


best value 500k cost per 'cheap housing'
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its not even affordable to begin with.
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post May 6 2019, 01:33 PM

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For a moment can Malaysia please learn from Singapore on their HDB project

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Brace yourselves, Najib will have a witty come back on this issue on his Facebook.

darthboyzee will be the first to open thread about it.
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QUOTE(xtrabite @ May 6 2019, 01:09 PM)
Pui..
Its just the people dont have enough money to buy it.
We are too poor.
Rumah selangorku apa cerita? Same story..
Lagi tak nampak bangunan..
Please stop playing blaming game..
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The government should accept the fundamentals... jangan bagi kera bunga.
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He already mention this...


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It is for the developer to songlap more

The cost unit probably below 100k but sell at 300-400k at non Selangor area
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prima home project in my area

have been taken over by the developer and change to other names
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ May 6 2019, 01:39 PM)
prima home project in my area

have been taken over by the developer and change to other names
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A TOTAL of 1.42 million people have registered for 1Malaysia People’s Housing Programme (PR1MA), a promise of one million homes by 2020, but only 16,682 units or 1.6% of the target were completed between 2013 and 2018, costing the government billions in public fund.

The national housing company launched in July 2011 by Datuk Seri Mohd Najib Razak has been a disaster despite more than RM8 billion being injected into the state-owned affordable housing scheme.

8 billion spent.. and only  16k houses...
and BN/PAS macai Still love najib.... Bodo nak mampus..
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"i cant afford next week food for my family of 50 so this issue doesnt matter to me"
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QUOTE(Left4Dead2 @ May 6 2019, 01:37 PM)
It is for the developer to songlap more

The cost unit probably below 100k but sell at 300-400k at non Selangor area
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yup agreed...i think after the given rebate, the price look reasonable... like prima melaka previously when lunching in 2016, apartment 850sqf already starting 210k...really crazy
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actually
are there any finish Pr1ma one projects?
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Someone benefitted from this failure. I wonder if it was at the land acquisition stage.
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QUOTE(BrokeBack @ May 6 2019, 01:44 PM)
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are there any finish Pr1ma one projects?
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got. Just go Alam Damai. Fucing huge white elephant there.

Discoutn 100k somemore.
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QUOTE(xtrabite @ May 6 2019, 01:09 PM)
Pui..
Its just the people dont have enough money to buy it.
We are too poor.
Rumah selangorku apa cerita? Same story..
Lagi tak nampak bangunan..
Please stop playing blaming game..
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putra heights harmoni1 under selangorku project is already naik

on its 5th or 6th floor right now

sime darby sure ok
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Pr1ma in matang kuching starts at 283k. Nobody can afford that.
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QUOTE(neoexcaliber @ May 6 2019, 01:50 PM)
Someone benefitted from this failure. I wonder if it was at the land acquisition stage.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ May 6 2019, 01:30 PM)
8b for 16k houses yoh...
best value 500k cost per 'cheap housing'
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Ini membuktikan kerajaan bee end mensubsidikan rakyat.. rumah Kos 500k, Jual kurang Dari harga kos.kek
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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ May 6 2019, 01:41 PM)
"i cant afford next week food for my family of 50 so this issue doesnt matter to me"
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But I can plotek plotek ..
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Its another tool squander gomen money.

Even if it is run honestly...there's no hanky panky, its a bad business model to begin with.

PRIMA doesn't have land bank. They forced to go to market and buy market price. On top of that they outsource everything to 3rd party from zero to completion. With no in-house at all.

How do you get lower house price with that.
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Pr1ma is having aggressive marketing campaign right now, gives rebate+discount up to 30% to new buyers. But existing owners are very angry as they loss 30% of value instantly if compare with their new neighbors.

https://www.facebook.com/PR1MAHomes/

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Saya pemilik awal PR1MA Residensi Utama Sungai Petani yang membeli dengan harga RM200K yang baru saja dibeli pada Jun 2018, tapi sekarang PR1MA menjual dengan diskaun 10% HOC + 20% rebate = 30%.
Bermakna kerugian yang saya terpaksa tanggung sekurang2nya RM135,000 termasuk interest bank selama 35tahun.
Bukan niat untuk menafikan rezeki kepada para pembeli baru dengan 30% diskaun, tapi hak kita sebagai pembeli awal pada harga yang tinggi harus diambil perhatian oleh PR1MA CORP & Kementerian Perumahan dan langkah sewajarnya harus/wajib diambil.
#mangsaPR1MA
#PR1MAtipu
#belahakpemilikPR1MA
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ May 6 2019, 01:20 PM)
If you ask Najib, he would say "Tak tahu".
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Then in FB..... "PR1MA TELAH BINA BANYAK RUMAH SEJAK 2012! KERAJAAN PH BUAT RUMAH TERLALU MAHAL UNTUK DIBELI! SEMUA SALAH DAP!"
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QUOTE(honeydeal @ May 6 2019, 02:04 PM)
Pr1ma is having aggressive marketing campaign right now, gives rebate+discount up to 30% to new buyers. But existing owners are very angry as they loss 30% of  value instantly if compare with their new neighbors.

https://www.facebook.com/PR1MAHomes/

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Saya pemilik awal PR1MA Residensi Utama Sungai Petani yang membeli dengan harga RM200K yang baru saja dibeli pada Jun 2018, tapi sekarang PR1MA menjual dengan diskaun 10% HOC + 20% rebate = 30%.
Bermakna kerugian yang saya terpaksa tanggung sekurang2nya RM135,000 termasuk interest bank selama 35tahun.
Bukan niat untuk menafikan rezeki kepada para pembeli baru dengan 30% diskaun, tapi hak kita sebagai pembeli awal pada harga yang tinggi harus diambil perhatian oleh PR1MA CORP & Kementerian Perumahan dan langkah sewajarnya harus/wajib diambil.
#mangsaPR1MA
#PR1MAtipu
#belahakpemilikPR1MA
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Don't be dumb pls la them
They don't rugi anything unless they planning to flip
Mula2 go kiasu rush buy the house then now menyesal

So if rumah harga Naik can the second hand buy ask for compensation coz the initial owner bought cheaper , after using the house can still sell more expensive ?
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QUOTE(Sycamore @ May 6 2019, 01:17 PM)
It's real.
PRIMA location is not cantek. Not all but most.

On the contrary rumawip location is quite good (cause in Kl? Kl is well-developed, build anywhere is fine?)

Selangorku location is acceptable.
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Actually curious what's the difference between the 2 based on location only?

I do know that RumaWIP is specifically for KL only as I own one. Seeing both are government programs, So does that mean PR1MA is for locations other than KL?
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People should wake up and understand that, gomen can only.give you tongkat.

Gomen cannot hold your hand to hold the tongkat.

Enough with this, kenapa kerajaan tak tolong mentality.

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QUOTE(honeydeal @ May 6 2019, 02:04 PM)
Pr1ma is having aggressive marketing campaign right now, gives rebate+discount up to 30% to new buyers. But existing owners are very angry as they loss 30% of  value instantly if compare with their new neighbors.

https://www.facebook.com/PR1MAHomes/

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Saya pemilik awal PR1MA Residensi Utama Sungai Petani yang membeli dengan harga RM200K yang baru saja dibeli pada Jun 2018, tapi sekarang PR1MA menjual dengan diskaun 10% HOC + 20% rebate = 30%.
Bermakna kerugian yang saya terpaksa tanggung sekurang2nya RM135,000 termasuk interest bank selama 35tahun.
Bukan niat untuk menafikan rezeki kepada para pembeli baru dengan 30% diskaun, tapi hak kita sebagai pembeli awal pada harga yang tinggi harus diambil perhatian oleh PR1MA CORP & Kementerian Perumahan dan langkah sewajarnya harus/wajib diambil.
#mangsaPR1MA
#PR1MAtipu
#belahakpemilikPR1MA
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Rumawip kena sapu cause it can be rented out. Prima no one sapu cause no renting out or selling for a period of time. Not attractive at all.
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QUOTE(Mooneyes @ May 6 2019, 01:53 PM)
Pr1ma in matang kuching starts at 283k. Nobody can afford that.
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Makes you wonder just how much was actually spent on the land acquisition and also construction costs.
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QUOTE(applezhai @ May 6 2019, 02:12 PM)
Actually curious what's the difference between the 2 based on location only?

I do know that RumaWIP is specifically for KL only as I own one. Seeing both are government programs, So does that mean PR1MA is for locations other than KL?
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PR1MA = build anywhere in Malaysia regardless of state. Got diff diff size from 1R1B to 4R3B, 40x60, etc.

Rumah W1P = Federal Territories only. Usually only 1 size and all are condo.
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QUOTE(honeydeal @ May 6 2019, 02:04 PM)
Pr1ma is having aggressive marketing campaign right now, gives rebate+discount up to 30% to new buyers. But existing owners are very angry as they loss 30% of  value instantly if compare with their new neighbors.

https://www.facebook.com/PR1MAHomes/

one of the victim's comment
Saya pemilik awal PR1MA Residensi Utama Sungai Petani yang membeli dengan harga RM200K yang baru saja dibeli pada Jun 2018, tapi sekarang PR1MA menjual dengan diskaun 10% HOC + 20% rebate = 30%.
Bermakna kerugian yang saya terpaksa tanggung sekurang2nya RM135,000 termasuk interest bank selama 35tahun.
Bukan niat untuk menafikan rezeki kepada para pembeli baru dengan 30% diskaun, tapi hak kita sebagai pembeli awal pada harga yang tinggi harus diambil perhatian oleh PR1MA CORP & Kementerian Perumahan dan langkah sewajarnya harus/wajib diambil.
#mangsaPR1MA
#PR1MAtipu
#belahakpemilikPR1MA
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QUOTE(Harry_Bobinski @ May 6 2019, 02:14 PM)
Rumawip kena sapu cause it can be rented out. Prima no one sapu cause no renting out or selling for a period of time. Not attractive at all.
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cannot rent out also what.... i mean can rent out room not whole house
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ May 6 2019, 02:19 PM)
cannot rent out also what.... i mean can rent out room not whole house
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Rumah W1P can rent out whole house, with the condition the renter is warganegara Msia.
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ May 6 2019, 02:19 PM)
cannot rent out also what.... i mean can rent out room not whole house
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Rumawip has no restrictions on renting out. That's why those with MRT/LRT next to it kena sapu by mid-high income earners. You should visit LYN Property Talk more XD.

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ May 6 2019, 02:16 PM)
PR1MA = build anywhere in Malaysia regardless of state. Got diff diff size from 1R1B to 4R3B, 40x60, etc.

Rumah W1P = Federal Territories only. Usually only 1 size and all are condo.
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Oh I see then it make sense then. Seen a comment that PR1MA did not have any land banks from the start and forced to go for unfavorable locations.

On the other hand, RUMAWIP had some alleged ahem ahem land dealings involving an Ex minster of FT and a certain developer (A*** K******). No wonder RumahWIP had some pretty good locations laugh.gif
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TBH all government project house should not be able to rent out.


It's for the citizens who don't have a house to get it and stay there and not for extra incoming renting out
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Rumawip has no restrictions on renting out. That's why those with MRT/LRT next to it kena sapu by mid-high income earners. You should visit LYN Property Talk more XD.
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Yeah you can rent it out as a whole. Doing that currently and the rental income is pretty decent for a 300k unit in this slow economy
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QUOTE(Jigoku @ May 6 2019, 02:24 PM)
TBH all government project house should not be able to rent out.
It's for the citizens who don't have a house to get it and stay there and not for extra incoming renting out
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Prima unable to rent out = terrible sales = fail.

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ May 6 2019, 02:22 PM)
Rumah W1P can rent out whole house, with the condition the renter is warganegara Msia.
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QUOTE(Harry_Bobinski @ May 6 2019, 02:24 PM)
Rumawip has no restrictions on renting out. That's why those with MRT/LRT next to it kena sapu by mid-high income earners. You should visit LYN Property Talk more XD.
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oh thanks both. i was worry my house will be ready and maybe i wont be around. then i cant stay in doh.gif
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QUOTE(Jigoku @ May 6 2019, 02:24 PM)
TBH all government project house should not be able to rent out.
It's for the citizens who don't have a house to get it and stay there and not for extra incoming renting out
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Well as mentioned in the article, a lot of the said built houses priced out a large portion of average salary workers. Even if it is meant for average people, they can't afford it, and if someone like an investor does not buy them, it will just turn up as part of the property glut that we are facing now. At the end of the day, they will turn to renting instead which isn't that bad according to some experts especially in these bad times.
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ May 6 2019, 02:30 PM)
oh thanks both. i was worry my house will be ready and maybe i wont be around. then i cant stay in  doh.gif
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what project bro?
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PR1MA @ Setapak
http://www.malaysiacondo.com/2016/05/pr1ma-setapak.html

change to

Residensi Platinum Teratai
http://www.platinumvictory.com/main/curren...t&project_id=40
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Prima will never be profitable lah, it is a subsidize project by government at the first place to tackle housing issue, that's why it is cheaper by 20-30% by market rate.

Government buy a piece of land, then ask developer handle everything, the price set by government, developer still get their profit but unsold unit have to tanggung if there is leftover unit.
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A new level pprt projet
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QUOTE(xtrabite @ May 6 2019, 01:09 PM)
Pui..
Its just the people dont have enough money to buy it.
We are too poor.
Rumah selangorku apa cerita? Same story..
Lagi tak nampak bangunan..
Please stop playing blaming game..
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if u go bukit tinggi and parklands.. theres few block all occupied mang.. u duno u just releax sap kok dulu..
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QUOTE(applezhai @ May 6 2019, 02:26 PM)
Yeah you can rent it out as a whole. Doing that currently and the rental income is pretty decent for a 300k unit in this slow economy
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This is nice. nod.gif
Is the rent enough to cover the monthly mortgage payment?
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This is nice.  nod.gif
Is the rent enough to cover the monthly mortgage payment?
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My down was 30%. Current installment (25 years) + maintenance is 1192 + 198

My rental is 1400, so is about break even.

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At almost RM400k for PR1MA... no wonder not many people can afford.

That's what happened, when instead of sticking to true objective, it is used as a political tool.
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At almost RM400k for PR1MA... no wonder not many people can afford.

That's what happened, when instead of sticking to true objective, it is used as a political tool.
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10% deposit required summore
40K man

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QUOTE(applezhai @ May 6 2019, 02:12 PM)
Actually curious what's the difference between the 2 based on location only?

I do know that RumaWIP is specifically for KL only as I own one. Seeing both are government programs, So does that mean PR1MA is for locations other than KL?
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Both are past government's initiatives to provide "affordable housing" for the citizen.
PRIMA started first then Federal Territory Ministers also wanted a project specifically for FT citizen so born Rumawip.

There are however some difference for both scheme:
Income requirement for applicants are different;
House ceiling price are different, PRIMA have higher ceiling price (400k) while rumawip is 300k;
Rumawip is for first house owners in Federal Territory while PR1MA is for first and second house owners in Malaysia.
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Actually I think rumah PRIMA is overpriced la. Their selling price is not that far from normal market housing
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QUOTE(applezhai @ May 6 2019, 03:16 PM)
My down was 30%. Current installment (25 years) + maintenance is  1192 + 198

My rental is 1400, so is about break even.
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Thanks for sharing. Breaking even is nice. thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(xtrabite @ May 6 2019, 01:09 PM)
Pui..
Its just the people dont have enough money to buy it.
We are too poor.
Rumah selangorku apa cerita? Same story..
Lagi tak nampak bangunan..
Please stop playing blaming game..
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Setia alam got few selangorku.. all sold out and were sold to only selected people in affordable price (below 200k)
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so, with current promo discount given by pr1ma for all their project right now, is it the best or already become affordable price to the malaysia people now? any opinion?
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Which ppl wan to buy prima ? Need to fork 10% dp crazy ..b40 have 30k dp ? Prima house 300k oso baik beli condo 400k can dp 0%
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QUOTE(yeezai @ May 7 2019, 12:55 AM)
Which ppl wan to buy prima ? Need to fork 10% dp crazy ..b40 have 30k dp ? Prima house 300k oso baik beli condo 400k can dp 0%
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Qualification requiring income of RM3k-15k for the applicants I think it's safe to say that these houses are targeted closer to M40 group.
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why bn so failure?

still dare to bark. shud just follow japan example and commit sudoku
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QUOTE(Jigoku @ May 6 2019, 02:24 PM)
TBH all government project house should not be able to rent out.
It's for the citizens who don't have a house to get it and stay there and not for extra incoming renting out
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singapore HDB can rent out or not


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QUOTE(hariz.zaki2 @ May 7 2019, 01:00 AM)
Qualification requiring income of RM3k-15k for the applicants I think it's safe to say that these houses are targeted closer to M40 group.
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Well then they failed hard coz m40 can choose 400k++ ones with 0% dp ..prima and rumahwip should be priced at 150k-200k for 800sqf unit ..itu baru tolong msians
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Ok la, got 2 storey terrace way lower price in kuantan
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The glut in Kedah was due to the unsold completed units which were mostly PR1MA projects in the Kuala Muda and Baling districts. The Kuala Muda district recorded 3,401 completed unsold units, of which nearly 69% comprised PR1MA houses and were priced mostly in the range of RM300,000 to RM400,000.

Dem. Apa lanjiao PR1MA house at Kuala muda n Baling priced liddat? Same price as in KL/Sel lo
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The main problem

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QUOTE(bukankhadam @ May 7 2019, 02:29 AM)
Dem. Apa <censored> PR1MA house at Kuala muda n Baling priced liddat? Same price as in KL/Sel lo
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https://sales.pr1ma.my/property/pr1ma-kuala...a-kedah-baling/

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Home type
Terrace House

Total units
323

Proposed project site area
19.7 Acres

Land status
Freehold

Proposed unit sizes
• Double Storey House Type A1 & A2 (4 Bedrooms, 3 Bathrooms): 1,835 sqft
• Double Storey House Type B1,B2,B3 & B4 (4 Bedrooms, 3 Bathrooms): 1,835 sqft
• Double Storey House Type B5 & B6 (4 Bedrooms, 3 Bathrooms): 1,969 sqft
• Double Storey House Type C1,C2,C3,C4 & C5 (4 Bedrooms, 3 Bathrooms): 1,969 sqft

Location & accessibility
• Melalui Jalan Sg Petani-Baling dan Jalan Padang Serai

Price from
RM 215,000
If you look closer at the photos, those houses are comparable to half-a-million MYR houses in my place (Johor) today.

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QUOTE(xtrabite @ May 6 2019, 01:09 PM)
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Rumah selangorku apa cerita? Same story..
Lagi tak nampak bangunan..
Please stop playing blaming game..
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Dunno about other areas, but come bukit raja klang, the whole srumah selangorku apartment complex sudah built up. I dunno if it is still waiting cf or wat but confirm bangunan sudah ada.

Another selangorku project is in setia taipan, this one i havent go survey2 but i think should be up by now too.
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rumah yg aku beli , koridor pun simen je, takde tiles pun, bile hujan bertakung air

huhu
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QUOTE(mamata @ May 7 2019, 08:07 AM)
rumah yg aku beli , koridor pun simen je, takde tiles pun, bile hujan bertakung air

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It's only failed because PH took over.
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QUOTE(honeydeal @ May 6 2019, 02:04 PM)
Pr1ma is having aggressive marketing campaign right now, gives rebate+discount up to 30% to new buyers. But existing owners are very angry as they loss 30% of  value instantly if compare with their new neighbors.

https://www.facebook.com/PR1MAHomes/

one of the victim's comment
Saya pemilik awal PR1MA Residensi Utama Sungai Petani yang membeli dengan harga RM200K yang baru saja dibeli pada Jun 2018, tapi sekarang PR1MA menjual dengan diskaun 10% HOC + 20% rebate = 30%.
Bermakna kerugian yang saya terpaksa tanggung sekurang2nya RM135,000 termasuk interest bank selama 35tahun.
Bukan niat untuk menafikan rezeki kepada para pembeli baru dengan 30% diskaun, tapi hak kita sebagai pembeli awal pada harga yang tinggi harus diambil perhatian oleh PR1MA CORP & Kementerian Perumahan dan langkah sewajarnya harus/wajib diambil.
#mangsaPR1MA
#PR1MAtipu
#belahakpemilikPR1MA
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If you ask me this was market forces. Not PR1MA's fault. If property prices everywhere was reduced, you cannot expect PR1MA to keep selling at the same price.

Also I think BN would have handled it differently, how PH handled the situation was quite bad for existing owners.
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Prima ke?
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the prima is quite pricey.. why not make it "Rent & purchase"
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pr1ma to cater for real poor ppl who cant afford house. xkan nak give city center location? as long as reasonable then ok liao lo. beggars cant choose.
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there were 130 ongoing projects, with 131,000 units under construction and 268,000 PR1MA units approved at the policy stage

Dekat my area got one PR1MA flat, outer is ok, but inner looks like haven't completed, but no progress. I guess PR1MA lack of funds to continue to build.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ May 7 2019, 09:05 AM)
pr1ma to cater for real poor ppl who cant afford house. xkan nak give city center location? as long as reasonable then ok liao lo. beggars cant choose.
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No, pr1ma is not mean for the poor but for middle income
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ May 7 2019, 09:05 AM)
pr1ma to cater for real poor ppl who cant afford house. xkan nak give city center location? as long as reasonable then ok liao lo. beggars cant choose.
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The thing is, the houses were not really affordable, and some of the locations are not really ideal.

PPR for poor people, yes, but PR1MA is one or two rungs up in terms of their target market.
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