last time my bro's not even 4 yr old wira 's roof started berkarat already. And its an export model fyi, 1998 batch. Only until recently, proton's QC has improved quite a lot, but its been too late already, as the value segment is dominated by P2 Viva and Myvi, while those looking for a Waja rather to opt a slightly more expensive Vios.

So, Proton, count your days

well if u can call myvi a shitty car, then its also LYN's democracy to allow users to bash at Proton's quality issues, lots of replies above you came with proofs regarding Proton cars which is not a make up story.

btw, I just reported ur usage of profanity :

an old news


http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/pro...0000-vss-offer/

hey, this is Proton bashing thread ok?
I am not against bashing or complaints other car makers, but make sure u post ur f***ing rants at the correct places ya? No one car maker is perfect and that's blardy truth, but when u saying myvi is shit crap but pls do provide some discrete evidence... not starting to spit ur milt at others like one minister did recently "stupid stupid stupid..." but in the end can't even mention one proper fact about the things debated.

If you can't stand this why not you go out of this thread and create another thread begging the attention for your comrades Proton **** lickers to cohere with u.

btw, if I still see the above racist statements by tomorrow, I will PM one of the admins, albeit the fact u might be a disgrace malaysian chinese

This post has been edited by dattebayo: Jul 1 2007, 01:55 AM

We have to agree that no any one manufacturers for anything is free from fault in the world. We humans are not perfect in the first hand. If you were to look in the issue deep enough, you will know that how the administration of a company, how effective it is in manufacturing, also adding some external factors like it is No.2 car brand, it is pushing GM to the cliff, will affect the general public's view on a Brand.

To me and many others, even if we seen 10 more or 20 more flooded Toyota, but it will not budge our decision to other cars like Proton. Why is that? like in computers, Dell is a really well known brand to make them a No.2, although its built and quality isn't really make them deserve the praising, but what makes Dell still favorable today?

When the public is making negative comments on a company regardless of the truth behind, its time for that company to contemplate on the reasons. If someone really want general public to change their impression towards Proton, he should make those Proton CEOs to really think some realistic actions.

Brand name and how the public first think of it - is the most powerful weapon in business world after all. Proton failed at its branding - thus it will fail entirely in their business.

This post has been edited by dattebayo: Jul 1 2007, 02:31 AM

being a patriotic doesn't mean he has to drive a proton. Even a down syndrome patient knows that. A country is a different entity than its government.

If u have better ideas, why not join MCA to fight for our rights in the coming elections?
I am waiting another one from chinese to join that malay sama sama yelling "stupid stupid stupid" to opposition.

btw, ya I am a patriot

This post has been edited by dattebayo: Jul 1 2007, 03:00 AM

I ve seen more people buying Vios rather than its closest price competitor Waja Campro, in fact City is also selling better than Waja. Although Toyota and Honda are at least rm10k more exp than a Waja.
Again, people has lost confidence in them, with more emotion than rationally
Design wise, Proton Iswara still based on the last decade rite?
Chancellor is yet another Waja rip off, and Waja Campro has minimal changes to Waja 1st gen.
Savvy is nothing but underwear car or helmet car
Gen2 do you call that crap a subcompact?
Satria Neo, it has potential and so far is the only Proton that deserves the attention.

very much agree. Its look like we have to pay hefty for imported car just to defend the Nation pride (Malay pride).
again, rather to pay less with Myvi, or paymore for City or vios, than to spoonfeed the blokes inside Proton. Their pride is not worth a single penny though. We pay for the quality and peace of mind, not some regiment's proclaimed Nation pride.

This post has been edited by dattebayo: Jul 1 2007, 11:59 AM

I not saying Proton quality is bad, read properly.
But what makes people not happy is what their top level administration is doing now. Bringing nation pride as a shield to defend a company is the worst BS.

Inevitably, when buying a Proton, I will think of : gosh... my money will be in some key ppl of G 's pocket now, part of it will be used to sponsor the JPA scholarships (where mostly only one race has the greatest benefit) , portion of it will be used in funding of big massive pointless project

If proton dare the challenge, G should let loose on the tax, and try to sell foreign cars at Thailand's price. Then we can observe the general market response

its good at last you understand, its the same idea I posted earlier - Proton brand has been spoilt terribly

for the over-priced materials, they used to implement it a lot to help out their own cronies, esp during the era where power windows problem was so frequent. Now they have reduced it pretty much I think.

why not honda city ler? i-dsi model is much the same price for Vios-G

u re funny,.. whats the logic in not washing a car can make a car paint fade out?

proton quality has improved
but their management is getting more retarded than ever.
if i elaborate more, this thread will be moved to RWI

want me to remind u ?
a new honda cr-v is just sell for HKD 150000 (~RM 75000) in HK
a new Harrier barely costs RM 140000+/- in HK.

and that just one of the example... haven't take thailand into comparison.

its just me... as long as the protection hasn't been lifted off from Proton and other local car makers, no good words to proton

This post has been edited by dattebayo: Jul 5 2007, 12:28 AM

so a grownup will accept whatever f***ing shit from a corrupted admins without complaining and moaning? up to u

btw the nature of this thread is to bash proton and its management... ada apa salah with me bashing it?

dont u feel unfair when u all have to pay substantially more money to buy the exact same car from oversea, just because to protect the company which focus on malay pride?

if held next yr, should be able to vote