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WinkyJr
post Apr 27 2019, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Apr 26 2019, 09:16 PM)
SWAT my ass lol.

More like a silly task force formed to protect big underground bosses with no credibility and accountability for the nation. They were formed by si indon to decrease crimes and syndicates in Malaysia. Hell it went up even more after this crappy team was formed  doh.gif
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atreyuangel
post Apr 27 2019, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Apr 27 2019, 12:22 AM)
what is the pro and cons of having the stafoc compare to back to old units?
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better deployment as
1. they are not from local district as they have different kind of detachment
2. tactical trained rather then a special task forces that will be only set up in a special case
3. even broader crime jurisdiction, kalo dulu narks dengan narks aja, vice takle campur mcm ni depa bleh team up ngan STING or STAGG terus pasal training, module dan sop sama.
4. easier to deploy, way2 easier rather deploying the UTK/VAT for operations
5. higher man power


QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Apr 27 2019, 01:19 AM)
it's always political issues

only bodoh people and macai pretend that it has any real effect on security
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kalau macam kes aku ni yang actually involved ngan PDRM selain ATM dan lihat sendiri kesan STAFOC, STING dan STAGG secara direct ni pun kira BODOH people jugak ka?

macam tu rupanya

pandai sungguh hang ye
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post Apr 27 2019, 02:54 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Apr 27 2019, 01:50 AM)

kalau macam kes aku ni yang actually involved ngan PDRM selain ATM dan lihat sendiri kesan STAFOC, STING dan STAGG secara direct ni pun kira BODOH people jugak ka?

macam tu rupanya

pandai sungguh hang ye
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as someone said upthread

roles can always be reassigned

problem with Malaysia has never been lack of committee, task force, command, etc

plenty of badan for this, suruhanjaya for that, pejabat for the other

but no work ever gets done
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post Apr 27 2019, 03:00 AM

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So basically this force got alot unclean staff ??
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post Apr 27 2019, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(nuvi @ Apr 26 2019, 08:53 PM)
Wow they handled many high profile cases, like Kevin Morais and Kim Jong-Nam.

And the wiki entry to the dissolution: The reason of the dissolution is not stated, however it is rumored that this young special units are involved in corruptions and protecting the criminals.[73] This rumor is later denied by the Home Affairs Minister, Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin.[74] hmm.gif
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That language so clearly written by dap macais lol
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post Apr 27 2019, 08:11 AM

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Don’t understand why those low ranking military personnel in k/ always talk like they know every single thing happening in the whole scene including those under the ministry and Agong....you ppl...actually just 2 of you act like you are in the Air Force today and marines force for yesterday....

Padahal cuci tandas aje
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post Apr 27 2019, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(proton_man @ Apr 27 2019, 08:11 AM)
Don’t understand why those low ranking military personnel in k/ always talk like they know every single thing happening in the whole scene including those under the ministry and Agong....you ppl...actually just 2 of you act like you are in the Air Force today and marines force for yesterday....

Padahal cuci tandas aje
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U refer to??
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post Apr 27 2019, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(proton_man @ Apr 27 2019, 08:11 AM)
Don’t understand why those low ranking military personnel in k/ always talk like they know every single thing happening in the whole scene including those under the ministry and Agong....you ppl...actually just 2 of you act like you are in the Air Force today and marines force for yesterday....

Padahal cuci tandas aje
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Mahai...

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QUOTE(helpful @ Apr 26 2019, 11:39 PM)
Over LONG TERM --- it will KILL a country

Look at some countries like Indonesia / Bangladesh and finally African ( extreme )

The TREND of whether Corruption is INCREASING or DECREASING will show you which way the country is heading ( irrespective of how many MALLS we have or amount of Bubble tea sold )
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You know I know la.

Look around. Philippines Indonesia same same.
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post Apr 27 2019, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(TrollNoob @ Apr 27 2019, 08:22 AM)
Mahai...

If i could only share what i know.
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post Apr 27 2019, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Apr 26 2019, 11:05 PM)
ada special task, but usually kene formed for special investigation dulu
mcm ni dah siap ada boleh deploy terus
depa bukan kene buang, balik unit lama aja
They are not special forces only elit
still they are the front line in tactical situations
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Ex-IGP Khalid now ‘jobless’ after quitting as Prasarana chairman
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4626014
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post Apr 27 2019, 10:34 AM

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restore the diraja of.bukit aman

no separate command ,
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post Apr 27 2019, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Apr 27 2019, 02:54 AM)
as someone said upthread

roles can always be reassigned

problem with Malaysia has never been lack of committee, task force, command, etc

plenty of badan for this, suruhanjaya for that, pejabat for the other

but no work ever gets done
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roles can be assigned but after the job complete then what?
back to old unit and do other work and then when need arises assigned balik?

ig nak form special task unit kejap ke?

how you know there is now work ever gets done with STAFOC/STAGG/STING
are you there?

atau macam cakap pasal ko tak nampak result langsung

QUOTE(yeezai @ Apr 27 2019, 03:00 AM)
So basically this force got alot unclean staff ??
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Nope, they were the idea of the last administration

QUOTE(lagista @ Apr 27 2019, 09:48 AM)
Ex-IGP Khalid now ‘jobless’ after quitting as Prasarana chairman
26 Jul 2018

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4626014
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so?
Pencen dia berbelas ribu kot
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post Apr 27 2019, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Apr 26 2019, 08:31 PM)
Why? Want to protect certain connection?

Defaq
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most political party in the world have mob connections
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post Apr 27 2019, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Apr 27 2019, 01:23 AM)
tu ha dia punya kencang, babi pun terbang

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post Apr 27 2019, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Apr 27 2019, 01:50 AM)
better deployment  as
1. they are not from local district as they have different kind of detachment
2. tactical trained rather then a special task forces that will be only set up in a special case
3. even broader crime jurisdiction, kalo dulu narks dengan narks aja, vice takle campur mcm ni depa bleh team up ngan STING or STAGG terus pasal training, module dan sop sama.
4. easier to deploy, way2 easier rather deploying the UTK/VAT for operations
5. higher man power
kalau macam kes aku ni yang actually involved ngan PDRM selain ATM dan lihat sendiri kesan STAFOC, STING dan STAGG secara direct ni pun kira BODOH people jugak ka?

macam tu rupanya

pandai sungguh hang ye
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Should have just set up SWAT that covers static sting and stagg roles

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post Apr 27 2019, 03:30 PM

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5 years old units konon legend as if they exist decades already like UTK and VAT69.

When politics influenced people's judgement and perception.
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Apr 27 2019, 03:17 PM)
Should have just set up SWAT that covers static sting and stagg roles
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It's easy for SWAT as they have around 30k to 50k member while UTK only have around XXX or personnel
and they also used as bodyguard for menteri and VVIP as well including small and large area protection. They are only based in Peace Hill (lol) and only deployed if necessary

like I said, the 3S have much more wider manpower, spec and scope and they are not attached only to one place
each state has their own STAFOC team.

Yes the idea is approved by Zahid and was form in his era but the idea for the rebranding the UTC and reshapre its SOP to filled the gap leaved by UTK has been proposed long time ago

QUOTE(frossonice @ Apr 27 2019, 03:30 PM)
5 years old units konon legend as if they exist decades already like UTK and VAT69.

When politics influenced people's judgement and perception.
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numbers of operation they have is way many then UTK first 5 years after establishment
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Do we have a mandatory fitness test every few years?
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post Apr 27 2019, 04:50 PM

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in the meantime can also disband units that doesnt contribute to the benefit of the country like...
yang ini lebih baik jangan

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