price also usd8k ?

4K already cannot see pixel even when close up the screen. 8K, IMO, is only suitable for really big screen....like 75" and above.

how much bandwith needed to stream/broadcast in 8k?

gg lah 2019 is samsung's year

they are on fire.

so many high end and innovative products in just 4 months.

Considering Netflix use 25Mbit for 4K, So 8K 50Mbit lor. Bear in mind this is also highly compressed video....

Bluray at 1080p already 30 to 50Mbit/s .

so clear.. can see the bacteria inside the pores ka

Cannot. Because your eyes not capable of 8k resolution.

might be useful for cinema ...

ok so no point buying 8k

Got. First upgrade your eyes to bionic eyes 16k resolution first.

can samsung do the upgrade for me?

sape cakap.....all my content is in 4k already

nah, some will swear his parents and his nuts that he can distinguish the pixels in 4k screen vividly

who cares 8k. i want holo 3d object generation

Apple logo > all

This post has been edited by JeremyLord: Apr 12 2019, 02:48 PM

RTX 2080 TI also lag if like this.

wait till u see people watching netflix on smartphone busy want it to stream in ultra HD even though that not posibble unless u bought sony

I hardly can see difference only 1080p and 4k on my 65" sony x7500

DCI 4K already jalan for all these while

8K require another mastering, mixing etc

Waiting for 8K prawn.

people always saying the same thing over and over again, when tv moves from 1080p to 4k... and when phones starts using full hd & 4k screen..

u look down on /k? almost every /k will be able to distinguish the difference and give you a lengthy report.

Do blind test. All will failed. LOL.

Because 4K TV is now cheap. And because you can't buy bigger TVs at 1080p. Not that people buying to upgrade to 4K in droves. i just bought one recently. Because old TV screen cracked. Tu jer.

Even Netflix, the best source of 4K movies/tv shows on the planet...the 4K contents are ....so little.

PS: I did try close up to check pixels on my 4K TV when playing 4K videos. Can't find pixels.

This post has been edited by skyforcerld: Apr 12 2019, 03:00 PM

Real life how many K?

agreed that 4k tv is underutilized. those movies we liked a lot (Transformers, Avengers) mostly are done using CGI and for CGI they are struggling over high resolution rendering.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?id=14...action=showfull

Even its a 4k bluray movie but their CGI scenes are all being upscaled.

shoot video in 8k, then extract screenshots to use for photography liao like this

Real life as seen by our eyes = 576 megapixel.
4k tv is 8.5 megapixel = 0.01% of our eyes resolution
8k tv is 33.2 megapixel = 0.06% of our eyes resolution..

And you pluck your strange magical science from....??

Render in HD only? Sounds a bit unbelievable...PS4 can render Horizon Zero Dawn with HDR in real time. Despicable ME cannot do 4K with a 20,000 computers rendering farm OFFLINE? if complex scene like Avengers CGI maybe need more power...but most animation are hardly photo realistic. But i dunno lah, i am not expert. Just doesn't seems logical.

This post has been edited by skyforcerld: Apr 12 2019, 03:45 PM

don't say 4k la. i still using 1080p on everything.

3D porn better. Been there, try that.

Doesn't matter. If you watch 55" 8K TV source 8K, from a distance of 8" (normal TV viewing distance). You won't be able to tell the difference or zoom into the pixel.

btw, i don't think there is real 8K TVs anyway in consumer market. SHARP's 8K is a fake 8K TV, but it does have some very pratical technology to improve the image quality.

https://www.t3.com/news/how-sharp-turned-a-...vel-technomancy

This post has been edited by skyforcerld: Apr 12 2019, 03:42 PM

Who say 4K underutilized?
Netflix and YouTube have so much 4K content

u dont know aaa.. google lorrr.. where else..

Much? It's really very little 4K contents in Netflix. Youtube got a bit more i think, but mostly like documentary. Not movies or TV shows (which will be illegal anyway).

yeah..rite...

8K ald?
4K content is not much.
Tengok Netflix pun not much 4K content.

wrong, 8k has 4x resulotion of 4k, meaning 8k requires 100Mbps connection

8k for super big screen.

betul jugak, i miscalculated.

But they will probably compress the hell out of it to fit into 25Mbit anyway...

https://gizmodo.com/what-is-the-resolution-...-eye-1541242269

here the google result for you. can watch the jewtube how he pick the number from the sky

This link doesn't support anything what was being argued.

And as it says, you can't measure your eyes resolution like that as it doesn't works like that.

not the link, but there's a youtube video inside the link

No. It will require 4x the the 4k video. If Netflix require 25Mbps, then the 8K video with same quality will require 100Mbps

Posts like yours are the reason why I haven't bought 4ktv yet... Really can't see one ah?

I'm itchy to buy but really thinking hard what I'm going to use it for anyway

That’s because they can’t see ohwai

fuhhh hnnngh
pancut pixels

the other day i read an article sony already 16k.

Sony->All

https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/...16k-resolution/

It doesnt matter if you can see difference or not. Now most smart TV is 4k. Might as well just buy it. Unless you can find HDR 1080p at cheap price. 4k tv watch 1080p also not bad. Maybe only can see difference if sit only 2.5-3m away. But who gonna sit that close?

It's 4K panel sticth together lah...like that count meh.

Even if the source is FHD, the TV will automatically do up-scaling and generate 4K video. Somehow the up-scaling generator these day are good and can improve the lower resolution video. Even skin texture is clear on 4K TV compare to FHD tv.

FormalCat

Share with you guys.

Got chart here about viewing distance and perceivable difference between 4K and 1080p together with TV size.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/4k-ultra-hd...caling-compared

But yeah, most TV nowadays 4K. When buy new TV, just make sure you buy 4K with HDR and preferably Android TV.

But i do notice there is difference at 8 feet from 4K TV comparing with 1080p, in general. Just not that big of difference, or until can zoom into pixel.

This post has been edited by skyforcerld: Apr 12 2019, 04:33 PM

Rich ppl will just borong this - just because it is latest and expensive

They dont care if the features not usable

4K TV very cheap lah..RM 1.x k can get liao. Not for rich people. Rich people buy iFong.

for me 4k is still overkill for 24"

HDR is different technology than 4k
HDR is dynamic range and color space
4k is resolution
Horizon Zero Dawn can run at 2k resolution but you are rendering the screen.
CGI creator need to render animation they created.. different requirement computing power (can take example if you are viewing a photo and editing a photo with photoshop)

This post has been edited by kevinlim001: Apr 12 2019, 04:36 PM

8K video is good. Basically can extract high quality 36MP (if no mistake) images out of 8K video recording. However, 8K recording need to have a lot of space. Camera sensor also makes huge different, data rate, power output, etc. Maybe it's possible only to record 8K 24p 3 or 10 minutes (max) on normal size apsc sensor camera only.
Just search for picture of 8K full frame video camera.

Back to topic, better buy 55" 4K OLED TV instead. 55" is large enough, unlike 65" costs like a bomb.

dont think even Europe can even stream 4k over to tv content..

few years ago, even 1080 quality they only could stream 1080i and not 1080p quality. it's about interlacing and progressive if im not mistaken on the terms.

cukur ada 800Mbit 64K also not scared.

You meant broadcast? Like our local DTV only broadcast 1080i max....Dolby Digital also dun have..

Streaming is on internet, Currently only NETFLIX and Youtube has any sort of 4K contents...but even these are highly compressed.

A 4K Bluray disc will have bitrates from 80Mbit/s to 128Mbit/s. Netflix is only 25Mbit/s, so you can imagine the reduced quality.

I think broadcasting is currently impossible and nowhere in the world has 4k broadcast.

8k matters for big screen,

upscaling is pretty good now

they blow it up to 200" then we can see lor. i wanna see quantum tunnel.

No use also, coz Netflix not gonna increased their bitrates anytime soon. They already kena from ISP left and right for using too much bandwidth. Netflix currently using 15% of the world internet bandwidth.

Yes....really big screen. Not really needed for Home...unless you have a Cineplex room in your mansion.

no hardware can run game at 8k right now...

Kinda like 4g and 5g network...
Anyway, this market for super rich people not average.

This post has been edited by perplexedstill: Apr 12 2019, 04:49 PM

they compress the audio. all become 2 channel.. the video alone doesnt take up much space if its hevc format

Ada duit, ada 8K PC gaming.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/wit...-iii-8k-gaming/



Excuse me, while i play my 720p Nintendo switch with dynamic frame rates dropping to 480p sometimes.

This post has been edited by skyforcerld: Apr 12 2019, 04:53 PM

ya memang is for the rich for now,

i saw reviews saying that 75" n above can utilize 8k already tho

but why

that's cheap.
no, really.

I read somewhere the actual estimated cost to make one is in the 6 digits.

Inb4 handphone 8k screen

Documentaries in 4K is enough of a reason to buy a 4K TV

My phone 2K, but i use FHD+ resolution only.

even though im one of them that enjoys documentaries, but it's still a very niche market.

Got diff if switch to 2k mode? Consume more battery? More heat? Lagness?

I use Youtube to watch 4K fish swimming in Aquarium or Waterfall....haha.

samsung bodo topkek

versey

For me, i don't see any difference. Definitely higher resolution use more power. There is no magic. So i always wants to preserve power. Setting to power saving mode automatically switch it to FHD+ i think.

8k Japanese action video

I would take HDR than 8k. The HDR is amazing even on Samsung Note 8 which is still not the max potential yet due to low peak brightness

Waiting for 512K and above.

So what, if have the technology just buy itlah.

Just like 8GB ROM for Smarkphone is norm now.

wei tipu la ... i can only go until 1080p ... apa 8k

Can see cannot touch still consider failed.

bodo samseng, please focus your rnd on micro led la.
our hardware are too weak to handle 8k,give chance la