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post Apr 12 2019, 02:27 PM

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4K already cannot see pixel even when close up the screen. 8K, IMO, is only suitable for really big screen....like 75" and above.
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post Apr 12 2019, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(PATAR @ Apr 12 2019, 02:27 PM)
how much bandwith needed to stream/broadcast in 8k?
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Considering Netflix use 25Mbit for 4K, So 8K 50Mbit lor. Bear in mind this is also highly compressed video....

Bluray at 1080p already 30 to 50Mbit/s .
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post Apr 12 2019, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Apr 12 2019, 02:33 PM)
so clear.. can see the bacteria inside the pores ka
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Cannot. Because your eyes not capable of 8k resolution.
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post Apr 12 2019, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(waxppl @ Apr 12 2019, 02:43 PM)
ok so no point buying 8k
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Got. First upgrade your eyes to bionic eyes 16k resolution first. laugh.gif
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post Apr 12 2019, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Apr 12 2019, 02:47 PM)
nah, some will swear his parents and his nuts that he can distinguish the pixels in 4k screen vividly
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Do blind test. All will failed. LOL.
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post Apr 12 2019, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(zeese @ Apr 12 2019, 02:57 PM)
people always saying the same thing over and over again, when tv moves from 1080p to 4k... and when phones starts using full hd & 4k screen..  biggrin.gif
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Because 4K TV is now cheap. And because you can't buy bigger TVs at 1080p. Not that people buying to upgrade to 4K in droves. i just bought one recently. Because old TV screen cracked. Tu jer.

Even Netflix, the best source of 4K movies/tv shows on the planet...the 4K contents are ....so little.

PS: I did try close up to check pixels on my 4K TV when playing 4K videos. Can't find pixels.

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post Apr 12 2019, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(zeese @ Apr 12 2019, 03:08 PM)
Real life as seen by our eyes = 576 megapixel.
4k tv is 8.5 megapixel = 0.01% of our eyes resolution
8k tv is 33.2 megapixel = 0.06% of our eyes resolution..
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And you pluck your strange magical science from....?? rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 12 2019, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Apr 12 2019, 03:03 PM)
agreed that 4k tv is underutilized. those movies we liked a lot (Transformers, Avengers) mostly are done using CGI and for CGI they are struggling over high resolution rendering.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?id=14...action=showfull

Even its a 4k bluray movie but their CGI scenes are all being upscaled.
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Render in HD only? Sounds a bit unbelievable...PS4 can render Horizon Zero Dawn with HDR in real time. Despicable ME cannot do 4K with a 20,000 computers rendering farm OFFLINE? if complex scene like Avengers CGI maybe need more power...but most animation are hardly photo realistic. But i dunno lah, i am not expert. Just doesn't seems logical.

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post Apr 12 2019, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Apr 12 2019, 02:57 PM)
Waiting for 8K prawn.
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3D porn better. Been there, try that. brows.gif
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post Apr 12 2019, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Apr 12 2019, 03:05 PM)
shoot video in 8k, then extract screenshots to use for photography liao like this
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Doesn't matter. If you watch 55" 8K TV source 8K, from a distance of 8" (normal TV viewing distance). You won't be able to tell the difference or zoom into the pixel.

btw, i don't think there is real 8K TVs anyway in consumer market. SHARP's 8K is a fake 8K TV, but it does have some very pratical technology to improve the image quality.

https://www.t3.com/news/how-sharp-turned-a-...vel-technomancy

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post Apr 12 2019, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Apr 12 2019, 03:42 PM)
Who say 4K underutilized?
Netflix and YouTube have so much 4K content
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Much? It's really very little 4K contents in Netflix. Youtube got a bit more i think, but mostly like documentary. Not movies or TV shows (which will be illegal anyway).
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post Apr 12 2019, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(zeese @ Apr 12 2019, 03:42 PM)
u dont know aaa.. google lorrr.. where else..
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yeah..rite...rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 12 2019, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Apr 12 2019, 03:52 PM)
wrong, 8k has 4x resulotion of 4k, meaning 8k requires 100Mbps connection
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betul jugak, i miscalculated. biggrin.gif

But they will probably compress the hell out of it to fit into 25Mbit anyway... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(slaveone @ Apr 12 2019, 03:54 PM)
https://gizmodo.com/what-is-the-resolution-...-eye-1541242269

here the google result for you. can watch the jewtube how he pick the number from the sky
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This link doesn't support anything what was being argued.

And as it says, you can't measure your eyes resolution like that as it doesn't works like that.
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post Apr 12 2019, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(ate @ Apr 12 2019, 04:07 PM)
the other day i read an article sony already 16k.

Sony->All

https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/...16k-resolution/
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It's 4K panel sticth together lah...like that count meh.
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post Apr 12 2019, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Apr 12 2019, 04:10 PM)
It doesnt matter if you can see difference or not. Now most smart TV is 4k. Might as well just buy it. Unless you can find HDR 1080p at cheap price. 4k tv watch 1080p also not bad. Maybe only can see difference if sit only 2.5-3m away. But who gonna sit that close?
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Share with you guys.

Got chart here about viewing distance and perceivable difference between 4K and 1080p together with TV size.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/4k-ultra-hd...caling-compared

But yeah, most TV nowadays 4K. When buy new TV, just make sure you buy 4K with HDR and preferably Android TV.

But i do notice there is difference at 8 feet from 4K TV comparing with 1080p, in general. Just not that big of difference, or until can zoom into pixel.

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post Apr 12 2019, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Apr 12 2019, 04:32 PM)
Rich ppl will just borong this - just because it is latest and expensive

They dont care if the features not usable
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4K TV very cheap lah..RM 1.x k can get liao. Not for rich people. Rich people buy iFong.
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QUOTE(shadowglow @ Apr 12 2019, 04:39 PM)
dont think even Europe can even stream 4k over to tv content..

few years ago, even 1080 quality they only could stream 1080i and not 1080p quality. it's about interlacing and progressive if im not mistaken on the terms.
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You meant broadcast? Like our local DTV only broadcast 1080i max....Dolby Digital also dun have..

Streaming is on internet, Currently only NETFLIX and Youtube has any sort of 4K contents...but even these are highly compressed.

A 4K Bluray disc will have bitrates from 80Mbit/s to 128Mbit/s. Netflix is only 25Mbit/s, so you can imagine the reduced quality.

I think broadcasting is currently impossible and nowhere in the world has 4k broadcast.
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QUOTE(happyking4ever @ Apr 12 2019, 04:44 PM)
cukur ada 800Mbit 64K also not scared.
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No use also, coz Netflix not gonna increased their bitrates anytime soon. They already kena from ISP left and right for using too much bandwidth. Netflix currently using 15% of the world internet bandwidth.
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QUOTE(bylkw2 @ Apr 12 2019, 04:45 PM)
8k matters for big screen,

upscaling is pretty good now
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Yes....really big screen. Not really needed for Home...unless you have a Cineplex room in your mansion. biggrin.gif

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