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post Jul 15 2007, 11:44 AM

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Stock heatsink already can go 4GHz.. shocking.gif I wonder can stable operation on my TT Big Typhoon.. hmm.gif
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post Jul 20 2007, 01:54 AM

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Hey irenic, seems you've tested your P35 gigabytes quite well. I'm currently using a P35-DQ6 rev1.x with F3 bios. But just an e6420 and stock cooler la. At the moment when you do stock cooler testing, what kind of temp do you get on max load?

I'm just aiming for 3.2 since I'm using stock cooler. Which voltage do you increase when orthos fails? And is my load (orthos) temp at 65-66C ok? Btw C2D noob here, and I'm impressed with this board too. Overclocking is effortless. Any probs installing the GeminII? Thinking of getting either GeminII or Ultra-120 Extreme, but the price difference is huge though. I'm not a pro in terms of installation, so which of these two fans is easier to install smile.gif, and any big performance difference between the two (since I assume you've tested them both).

My rig at the moment.

P35-DQ6 rev1.x (F3)
E6420 at 3.2Ghz (400x8) with stock hsf
Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC6400 at 400Mhz 4-4-4-12
Centurion 5 Standard with 80cm front and 120cm rear.
Ambient 21C Idle at 34C Max load at 66C

Stats:
MCH: +0.15
FSB: +0.1
vDimm: 2.15
vCore: 1.368

Oh, and one last thing. You think I could go further with the stock heatsink or am I dancing with danger?
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post Jul 20 2007, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 15 2007, 11:44 AM)
Stock heatsink already can go 4GHz.. shocking.gif I wonder can stable operation on my TT Big Typhoon.. hmm.gif
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maybe better~ but do note that the e6850 runs very cool, so u might see a very little different between stock heatsink and other high end aircooling.

QUOTE(bem69 @ Jul 20 2007, 01:54 AM)
Hey irenic, seems you've tested your P35 gigabytes quite well. I'm currently using a P35-DQ6 rev1.x with F3 bios. But just an e6420 and stock cooler la. At the moment when you do stock cooler testing, what kind of temp do you get on max load?

I'm just aiming for 3.2 since I'm using stock cooler. Which voltage do you increase when orthos fails? And is my load (orthos) temp at 65-66C ok? Btw C2D noob here, and I'm impressed with this board too. Overclocking is effortless. Any probs installing the GeminII? Thinking of getting either GeminII or Ultra-120 Extreme, but the price difference is huge though. I'm not a pro in terms of installation, so which of these two fans is easier to install smile.gif, and any big performance difference between the two (since I assume you've tested them both).

My rig at the moment.

P35-DQ6 rev1.x (F3)
E6420 at 3.2Ghz (400x8) with stock hsf
Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC6400 at 400Mhz 4-4-4-12
Centurion 5 Standard with 80cm front and 120cm rear.
Ambient 21C Idle at 34C Max load at 66C

Stats:
MCH: +0.15
FSB: +0.1
vDimm: 2.15
vCore: 1.368

Oh, and one last thing. You think I could go further with the stock heatsink or am I dancing with danger?
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i've tested few procs with this gigabyte p35 and p35t.. as far as i remembered, qx6700 max load is 69c (gemini), e2160 max load 63c (gemini) and e4300 max load is 70c (stock).. all are with stock vcore..

this gigabyte p35 dq6 dont really like high nb voltage.. this happens to few gigabyte boards i tried, so maybe it's the same with urs.

266-399fsb : vpcie, vfsb, vmch : normal

400-450fsb: vpcie normal, vfsb +0.10, vmch +0.15

451fsb- 515fsb: vpcie +0.10, vfsb + 0.10, vmch +0.20

i never try higher than 515fsb..

maybe u can try above voltages, and oc ur processor.. if orthos fail, increase the vcore 1 notch and run orthos again..

between gemini and extreme 120, i guess gemini is easier to install, but in terms of performance for dual core, i definitely recommend extreme 120.. for gemini, it really worked well with my qx6700 but not with e2160..

just make sure ur max load temp is not more than 70c.. and better cooling is recommended if u're aiming for higher oc smile.gif
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post Jul 20 2007, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Jul 20 2007, 12:30 PM)
maybe better~ but do note that the e6850 runs very cool, so u might see a very little different between stock heatsink and other high end aircooling.
i've tested few procs with this gigabyte p35 and p35t.. as far as i remembered, qx6700 max load is 69c (gemini), e2160 max load 63c (gemini) and e4300 max load is 70c (stock).. all are with stock vcore..

this gigabyte p35 dq6 dont really like high nb voltage.. this happens to few gigabyte boards i tried, so maybe it's the same with urs.

266-399fsb : vpcie, vfsb, vmch : normal

400-450fsb: vpcie normal, vfsb +0.10, vmch +0.15

451fsb- 515fsb: vpcie +0.10, vfsb + 0.10, vmch +0.20

i never try higher than 515fsb..

maybe u can try above voltages, and oc ur processor.. if orthos fail, increase the vcore 1 notch and run orthos again..

between gemini and extreme 120, i guess gemini is easier to install, but in terms of performance for dual core, i definitely recommend extreme 120.. for gemini, it really worked well with my qx6700 but not with e2160..

just make sure ur max load temp is not more than  70c.. and better cooling is recommended if u're aiming for higher oc smile.gif
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Thanks for the great tips smile.gif Currently I won't be overclocking it much further, and I finally kept it running stable with orthos for 6 hours. Just needed to bump the vcore up to 1.375. So, do you recommend the extreme120? I might be going quad later too.
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post Jul 20 2007, 03:43 PM

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from my experience, the gemini is really good with quadcore, but only has average performance with dual core..
i've tested tuniq tower on quad core and the temp is hotter than with gemini.. but with dual core tuniq tower is cooler than gemini..

not really sure with 120 extreme, coz never got chance to test it with quad core.

neway for 120 extreme, u need to remove the crazycool and use the given nuts..

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QUOTE(irenic @ Jul 14 2007, 05:15 PM)
do u mean the new revision? mind asking ur boss whats the improvement of this new rev over the old one?

yeah.. many ocers all around the world prefer gigabyte p35 than the asus p35.. but no doubt both are great boards..

i played with both boards, both has their cons & pros.. however in this round i definitely will stay with gigabyte  thumbup.gif
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haha... yeah... Asus supplier already crying cuz not enough sales... bout the diff i don think u should ask the sellers... should ask the developers or reviewers... sweat.gif i got bad exp bout asking the sellers... doh.gif
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post Jul 22 2007, 03:37 AM

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ASUS seller are crying now? That bcoz of much more expensive than Gigabyte series. Ppl just want good cheap mobo. ASUS board may be ok for entry level system.
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post Jul 22 2007, 04:25 AM

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enthusiast not really care with rm100 different .. esp oversea where RM100 just around $30 bucks different for them..

but the board itself.. u try 1st n u'll know biggrin.gif

p/s - i'm talking bout latest generation of boards.. not including 965, 975, nforce680i or older chipset.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(irenic @ Jul 22 2007, 04:25 AM)
enthusiast not really care with rm100 different .. esp oversea where RM100 just around $30 bucks different for them..

but the board itself.. u try 1st n u'll know biggrin.gif

p/s - i'm talking bout latest generation  of boards.. not including 965, 975, nforce680i  or older chipset.. smile.gif
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seem myb asus need more time to produce great mobo for this new chipset laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jul 22 2007, 01:28 PM

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For budget user just look for ASRock. U will see 965P chipset support penryn and other features that havent in mind now.
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irenic@ on my board to get it stable i need to up the vNB... not that high as you stated in 1 of your post +0.20
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post Jul 24 2007, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(mfcm @ Jul 22 2007, 11:53 AM)
seem myb asus need more time to produce great mobo for this new chipset  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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all of them have enuff time to produce the mobos.. so far gigabyte has the most p35 boards.. if i not mistaken they have 9 types.. while asus so far has only launch 5-6 boards.. (2 to come)

QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 22 2007, 01:28 PM)
For budget user just look for ASRock. U will see 965P chipset support penryn and other features that havent in mind now.
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ASrock is not bad for its price.. well its name already stand for ASus Rock wut... whistling.gif


QUOTE(KidsCode @ Jul 23 2007, 08:10 AM)
irenic@ on my board to get it stable i need to up the vNB... not that high as you stated in 1 of your post +0.20
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do u mean vmch? yes, last time my p35 i did +0.15 is enuff.. but so far with this p35t, +0.20 seems a bit stable esp at more than 450fsb quad core..



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neway to all gigabyte p35 users, so far do u have any complaint regarding the boards? maybe in terms of layout, quality, or bios?
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QUOTE(irenic @ Jul 24 2007, 12:51 AM)

do u mean vmch? yes, last time my p35 i did +0.15 is enuff.. but so far with this p35t, +0.20 seems a bit stable esp at more than 450fsb quad core..
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neway to all gigabyte p35 users, so far do u have any complaint regarding the boards? maybe in terms of layout, quality, or bios?
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both vMch and vFSB...

my only complain if the vCore will able to refine more, like 1.60v then 1.65v
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yups that's a concern.. below 1.6vcore, the range option is nice but then above 1.6v, it jumps 0.05 straight away..
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QUOTE(irenic @ Jul 14 2007, 05:15 PM)
do u mean the new revision? mind asking ur boss whats the improvement of this new rev over the old one?

yeah.. many ocers all around the world prefer gigabyte p35 than the asus p35.. but no doubt both are great boards..

i played with both boards, both has their cons & pros.. however in this round i definitely will stay with gigabyte  thumbup.gif
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So technomancer,

Asked your boss yet? Bout the improvements in the newer revisions?

I'm considering a new rig; C2D E6850 + P35-DQ6 + Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2 PC2-8500 1066MHz 2GB.

Some feedback would be much appreciated.
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QUOTE(arcan8888 @ Aug 28 2007, 03:29 AM)
So technomancer,

Asked your boss yet? Bout the improvements in the newer revisions?

I'm considering a new rig; C2D E6850 + P35-DQ6 + Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2 PC2-8500 1066MHz 2GB.

Some feedback would be much appreciated.
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I've asked Gigabyte on this...
u guys can check here...
don expect sellers to know all these... they are merely doing their business... and don even expect them to even do wat i did... they will most probably ignore these questions... sweat.gif But i will do my best to solve these probs... icon_rolleyes.gif
as for OC E6*50 procs i haven't try yet... but i got unbelievable temperature readings wif speedfan on the newer Intel procs like Celeron 420, E2140, E2160 and E6750... sweat.gif
though it's proven tat Celeron 420 is the coolest of all procs in proc history... due to it's puny heat sink and it's fan movements on GA-945GCMX-S2... but bear in mind tat it's FSB is locked... sad.gif tat means no OC for Celeron 420 which is y i'm using E2160 for my BT rig instead of Celeron 420(my initial plan to wait for Penryn)... cry.gif

Sorry for late reply... Been bz lately... sweat.gif


Added on September 2, 2007, 7:25 pm
QUOTE(irenic @ Jul 24 2007, 01:51 AM)
all of them have enuff time to produce the mobos.. so far gigabyte has the most p35 boards.. if i not mistaken they have 9 types...
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there are 24 actually including those C models which supports both DDR2 & DDR3... sweat.gif

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