hi, anyone taking one of these two courses?
may i know how is the career prospect for these two course graduates?

looks like both courses dun hv bright future in malaysia
feel free to giv advice.. pls pm me if u are taking one of these courses.
TQ very much..

Go for Biomedic. I think it has a gr8 future. And what's more in NUS!

U got NUS offer for biomedical academic year 2007/2008?

sorry.. i forgot to state that i asked on behalf of my sis..
she got offer in science but she wan to take biomedic after that.

u shuld ask ur sister to take biomedic..tis is good subject for girls since it involve lots of reading..(i dislike reading)

the most important is the job prospect for her.
both courses are her interest also.

go for biomedic.

You mean your sister got Science in NUS.
As far as I'm concern, NUS intakes quite a lot of applicants for Science, roughly 1000 each year. After completing your first year, you can choose to major in certain subjects in second year. Since there are so many people fighting for it, from what I heard, it's quite competitive to get in to popular subjects.

thanks for advice..

anyoen from audiology in local uni? pls give ur views..thanks a lot..

audiologist is minority speciality in malaysia, every yr only produce limited graduates....all hired n taken up even b4 grad. some audiologist even being treated like a doctor as they see patient (with audio problem).

i grad from UKM biomed, u donwanto hav a degree where u throw a stone in the street oso can hit a biomed grad.

biomed will give u more prospects or in other words : chap palang career path.
u can do pharma sales, medical underwriter, continue master as researcher or lecturer , MLT .....

audiologist can only do audiologist or audio equipment sales...

ask ur sis justify wat she wants to do....audio will hav some busy clinical yrs....go NUS oso not sure u can get biomed after 1st yr...

if u really wanto know more about audiology, PM me i intro u to my fren.

This post has been edited by yewkhuay: Jun 22 2007, 02:44 AM

Ok... I'm doing Biomedical Science in UKM while my former roommate is Speech Science who are in the same department with Audiology. First years Audio and Speech have nearly same subjects, anyway.

I don't mind if you are doing Audiology, I mean, there's only handful of audiologist in Malaysia as in speech therapist. And you will be in more demand if you did masters. But, Audio is more trouble than biomeds.

In term of studying; Biomedical textbooks are the same as medical books (Except we took histology seriously than they do..) and Audiology and Speech had to have their own books, which usually they refer to dentist-books since they are more concern in anat and physio of the head than the rest of the body and doesn't emphasize much on the systemic parts. But you need to learn physics if you want to venture in audio, and you will learn stuff for electronics too.

Sometimes, their books on their subject (like audio) are so rare that they have to buy them a year in advance from Australia for their courses in the next sem. More money wasted on this anyway.

And of course, the lecturers... I mean, not that I know of them (Im biomed anyway) but sometimes the lecturers doesn't gave out a direct objective and there's many loopholes than even the students doesn't even know WHAT to study. This is what they told me, some of the thing that come out during exam, was the ones that the lecturers DOESNT TEACH!! Don't start on the stories.... there's a lot and people let the matter easy. But usually the admin let student off with pass marks when this happens.

In case of career, its alright to think in advance but then, biomedicine grads flock the job markets like flies. I'm sad that the companies take university where their study as a first impression. like overseas vs local and after that... UKM vs USM vs UPM vs UM vs KUTPM vs swasta... I mean, there's lots of politics plus in every courses, they pick around a hundred student per university. In every year there's around a few hundred grads and there's always a few thousand older grads who want newer jobs.

Can you compete that? Thats why they said biomeds have a larger opportunities, its because of this influx of grads and the preferences of universities. (The world is cruel)

Audiology took only 30 students. And there's a few university that offer it. (I don't know about audio but in speech science, there's only TWO university that gave of speech grads, UKM and USM and the market held an open arm for them anyway)

Both courses have pros and cons.

But UKM biomedicine is easier to handle compared to audio. Plus you need to get active so that you could stay in Kolej Tun Syed Nasir since the department is within the kolej and the placements depends on meritocracy. (You need to get atleast 300 for the first year if you want to compete with the rest) Once you became active, you will sacrifice your study, one program took your days and night for weeks. This is my experience anyway.

My course's department is in the Faculty which is located in Jalan Raja Muda and for my second year, I will stay in an apartment nearby. The KTSN is lot farther (My exercise routine is basically walking for 30min from my dorm to my classes) and all audiology and speech class is in KTSN.




There's nothing easy in this world.... anyway

I recommend audiology if you wanted jobs.. but I wont recommend UKM... Its not recommendable to be slack and be proud just because you got ukm since seriously, its hard and you will be wanting to sell your soul by this.


Plus, all health courses are in KL and NOT in Bangi. Being in KL is enough a burden anyway.

By now your sister would have decided. Can you share what she decided on?

Don't go for audiology. The prospects are limited since you only can do one thing - be an audiologist. So if you don't know or have no interest, don't join audiology.

I know a good friend from UKM audiology 1st batch. He loved the course so much and learnt so much and was always talking about how big an impact an audiologist can make in a child's life and also the life changing decisions he gets to help people make when it comes to hearing problems.

Sad to hear the course have lecturers that just pass students anyway. He told me his lecturers were all from overseas since he was in the first batch and there were not many lecturers locally. They also have a state of the art facility. Equipment alone already a few million.

But anyway, audiology is something that requires patience and passion because it's new in Malaysia. It's not for people looking for a job. It's for people looking for a career

i suggest biomedic,,,

Are you talking about Jen Sen : )

Audiology is infact for people lookign for both job and career. Plenty of opportunities. My company already has 3 Audiologists (including myself). However, we still need another Audiologist and it's difficult to find one...easily grabbed by private hospitals and Singapore : )

Audiologists are not very common in Malaysia, they will tend to work in Govt. Service (in Hospitals)... between the two... I will recommend Audiology program instead of Biomedical program. Biomedical science program and their graduates are just too many already.

Audiology degree program, on the other hand, is only offered by IPTA at the moment here in Malaysia.



Most people in this forum have NEVER seen for themselves how audiologist function in a hospital ENT department and tend to recommend Biomedical program.

ENT specialists require Audiologist in the Hospital - they (audiologists) are the ones involved in diagnosing hearing problems (eg; conductive hearing lost or sensorineural hearing lost - what degree of hearing lost patient have?) and they are also the ones who provide external hearing aids, teach patients on their usage, provide therapy for deaf children, development of speech, etc etc etc....

ENT specialists don't usually do all that...


So... having seen how audiologist work in the ENT department.... between BIOMEDICAL SCIENCE PROGRAM and AUDIOLOGY PROGRAM - I recommend AUDIOLOGY PROGRAM (it confers you with the Audiologist profession)



*- debate can go on about the above two programs - but all of you need to know - I AM a biomedical science graduate~

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Mar 4 2011, 10:51 PM

I m audiologist leh, but end up sell games

Why...? are you from UKM?
Were you not able to secure employment in Govt. service? what about private health sector?

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Feb 11 2012, 11:20 PM

Yeah, grad frm ukm kl nice n strict training

Work in hospital is ok, stabil and can see many patient everyday. Just not the type of job i like lor and in hospital, Dr always is the king o. Other rehab specialist wan to fight to same status need alot of effort and understanding of ur upper management and department, such as how many support they can gv to ur audiology part, especially budget and audiologist "power"

Prefer sales and marketing tat can run around. Tats is fews growing hearing aids company local, such like best hearing and oticonm

Replied to TS, audiologist is better prospect trust me

This post has been edited by heavyarm: Feb 12 2012, 01:06 AM

Anyway... I've received the above message, from the user above. Any Audiologist reading this - can try and apply for the job.
By the way, I'm not an audiologist~ he must have mistaken me for one.



This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Mar 6 2012, 09:53 PM

hi there. Im a stpm graduated and i'm planning to apply audiology in UKM. so can u briefly explain what's the course mainly about & how's the job opportunities in msia? how is the basic salary for fresh graduate?? I hv no idea bout all of this cause there's kinda less information bout this course.. your help is much aprreciated

hi chrissie!

there is currently 3 local U is provide audiology degree course in malaysia: UKM, UIA and USM. i would said the best and the toughest is UKM.

1st year: mainly study anaotomy, physiology and some basic knowledge of speech sciences field
2nd year: mainly study into ear disease, hearing problems, sounds physics and some minor touch up on audiology field knowledge
3rd year: u be expose to practical under group and supervisors, will be send to different hospital training. study more n more into diagnosing part, and little touh up on case management part
4th year: u be assignt to complete final year project and presentations. oso pratical at diffrent hosiptal include ukm clinic

What's the basic salary for a fresh grad?

so izzit mainly abt bio-related things? how's the job opportunities & salary after graduated?

Yea, but for first year course only, of coz basic bio related knowledge is needed to understand the new knowledge u learn for this 4 years course.

Basic salary here: rm2700-3200 for fresh grad
Increment: 3-10% depend on ur employers
Incentive: some provide some said not ethical to provide even satu kupang then all masuk company own pocket
Job oppurtunities: Not bad but restricted to few choices. Singapore always need alot of audiologist work for their country, sgd 2700-3200 for fresh grad too.
Job nature:

1) office job type: see patients, diagnose them, do ur part for case management, deal v company politics and bla bla
2) salesman type: go out to get sales and do PR for company, approach private/goverment sector or even Dr clinics so tat they "song" to get stock frm ur company. do after sales services part too.
3) hybrid type: (1) + (2)
4) product trainer
5) lecturer

Do remember always need passionate and willing to learn new knowledge everyday even after u graduate to help more ppl good luck to u!

hey thank you so much for all the information!! it does help lotssssss!!
btw, which field we r studying most in this course? bio,physic or chem?

This post has been edited by chrissie yong: Mar 19 2012, 10:48 PM

I would say when u study audiology, those thing u learn at form 6, secondary school, especially math n chemistry can throw aside d.
Not relate at all. Bio oso abit oli, physic cn say abit bit oso. Lol

did u apply for usm in audiology last time? cause i only get 3.58 in my stpm & i think it's quite low if i wanna take this course in ukm. i saw the pointer in usm for audiology in much lower than ukm, does that means i can get it easier in usm?

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Added on March 23, 2012, 12:09 amhi does anyone heard abt BIOMEDICAL ENGINEERING? how is it? pls feel free to comment cause im planning to apply this course. my stpm cgpa was 3.58 & it's too low to get biomedical science

This post has been edited by chrissie yong: Mar 23 2012, 12:09 AM

Try avoid biomedical field. Salary low, promoted chances less, less chances expose to foreign workfield, work
Load alot, owez need to stand behind the field due to no contact to patient.

End up many of my friends with this degree rather work as insurances agent, salesman, medical products sales rep and etc job not relate at all. Main reason is salary too low. Oli Some further study few more years to be lecturers.

I do think if u interest in medical field, choose those professional cn contact v patients. U get more status and pay when u work next time. Good luck

hmnn.. which course which is related to medic field do u suggested?

Why the 'medic-related'? Are you interested in a particular program or randomly choosing?
You should do your own research about the options yourself and then ask the opinions of others~

It'll be for your own good~

chrissie yong sounds like those confused STPM Biology students that I see all the time, CGPA not high enough to enter Med/Dentistry (you know, the 'popular' ones), not much prospect in the field of Biology (in Malaysia, that is), cannot afford private......Need I say more?

Anyway, this user hasn't logged in for a while, probably never after submitting the UPU form, but thanks for your time none the less.

This post has been edited by Krevaki: Jul 7 2012, 10:59 AM

I feel like bumping this thread... Need to give more exposure on other health related occupations other than medical doctor.

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Mar 5 2014, 01:06 PM

Yes, you, limeuu, Syd G, zstan, jdachum and other medical practitioners & students in LYN should give us and the aspiring “wannabe doctors” about the overview of occupations in the MALAYSIAN health care industry.



Anesthesiologist
Athletic Trainer
Audiologist
Cardiologist
Cardiovascular Technologists
Chiropractor
Dental Hygienist
Dentist
Diagnostic Medical Sonographers
Dietetic Technicians
Dietitians and Nutritionists

Esthetician
Emergency Medical Technicians (EMT) and Paramedic
Family and General Practitioners
Healthcare Administrator
Internist
Lab Technician
Licensed Practical and Licensed Vocational Nurse
Massage Therapist
Medical and Clinical Laboratory Technician
Medical Coding
Medical Office Assistant
Medical Records Clerk and Health Information Technician
Medical Transcription

Neurologist
Neurosurgeon
Nuclear Medicine Technologist
Nurse Anesthetist or Nurse Anesthesiologist
Nurse Practitioner
Obstetrician and Gynecologist Doctor
Occupational Health and Safety Specialist and Technician
Occupational Therapist
Dispensing Optician
Optometrist
Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeon
Orthodontist
Orthotist and Prosthetist

Pediatrician
Pharmacist
Pharmacy Technician
Phlebotomist
Physical Therapist
Physician Assistant
Podiatrist
Prosthodontist
Psychiatric Technician
Psychiatrist
Psychologist

Radiation Therapist
Recreational Therapist
Registered Nurse
Respiratory Therapist
Social Worker
Sonographer
Speech-Language Pathologist or Speech Therapist
Surgeon
Surgical Technologist
Veterinarian
Veterinary Technologist and Technician

Hi I am currently a Audio student in UKM. Can brief me a bit about audiology in working area? Thanks.

is the entry requirements only with STPM? possible to enter with A-levels?

You will have discuss directly with the University (Govt Uni.)...

is there any chance if i took a levels, but i want to enter govt uni through program lepasan bursary?

EDIT: after some researching, only USM and UM recognises A levels. but only for certain undergraduate programmes only.

This post has been edited by nothintodo: Jan 15 2017, 10:08 PM

I am bumping this thread again for those Post-SPM/STPM students...

Hi, for audiologist, do they have long working hours like doctors/nurses or just normal office hours? Also, do I have to further study to become a specialist or a bachlelor will be enough?

No and no.

Audiologists work normal office hourse like 9-5pm but there could be variations depending on which setting you work.
In Malaysia, having only the degree credentials is already enough to be a working audiologist as there is no "specialist" in their field.