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post Mar 27 2019, 10:44 PM, updated 7y ago

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How can we improve local film industry?

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post Mar 27 2019, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(everest @ Mar 27 2019, 10:44 PM)
How can we improve local film industry?

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post Mar 27 2019, 10:46 PM

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stop tongkat, stop plotek, stop whatever shit guidelines or censorship......
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post Mar 27 2019, 10:47 PM

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Ever wonder why stupid movies like the transformer series and local zombies became box office ? Because our people have low taste in movies, resulting in low quality movies being produced. Forget quality lah.
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post Mar 27 2019, 10:48 PM

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Free space for creativity.

Which means, no censorship, either due to sex, violence, political, religious content etc.

But we won't and therefore couldn't and will stick with rempit, ghost and cheap rom-com


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post Mar 27 2019, 10:51 PM

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So when is the last time u watch local movie in cinema? whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Mar 27 2019, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Mar 27 2019, 10:48 PM)
Free space for creativity.

Which means, no censorship, either due to sex, violence, political, religious content etc.

But we won't and therefore couldn't and will stick with rempit, ghost and cheap rom-com
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post Mar 27 2019, 10:57 PM

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Stop giving them grant to make movie. Nowadays most of them using gomen money to make movie. Hence they don't care if the movie is good or not. Money sudah dapat maa.
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post Mar 27 2019, 11:09 PM

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they need good marketer.... know where to get sponsor. learn how boyboy movie get their sponsor.... from choki choki, from old town cofee
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post Mar 27 2019, 11:13 PM

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not about quality

its about money

low quality=more money

so its impossible
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post Mar 27 2019, 11:34 PM

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post Mar 27 2019, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Mar 27 2019, 10:47 PM)
Ever wonder why stupid movies like the transformer series and local zombies became box office ? Because our people have low taste in movies, resulting in low quality movies being produced. Forget quality lah.
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Tx series were international hits. Also ever wonder why hollywood bother to churn films like white chicks etc.

The truth is most people in the world dont care about director's artsy fartsy whatever. People watch what they enjoy, and hollywood made what people enjoy.

There are markets for art or intelligence films but you wont be swimming in cash.
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QUOTE(sdin3269 @ Mar 27 2019, 10:51 PM)
So when is the last time u watch local movie in cinema? whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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pascal. enough said
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post Mar 28 2019, 12:09 AM

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Laughing at comment who said no censorship will improve movie quality.
If sex scene is your benchmark to define movie is good thats just reflect how shallow ur mind is.
But then again this is /k, where argument is invalid.. So nvm la
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post Mar 28 2019, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(riezzien @ Mar 28 2019, 12:09 AM)
Laughing at comment who said no censorship will improve movie quality.
If sex scene is your benchmark to define movie is good thats just reflect how shallow ur mind is.
But then again this is /k, where argument is invalid.. So nvm la
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Censorship does not mean sex only la. C'mon. Even a simple character that was made to look like local politicians is an excuse to get cut. Just look at Bangalasia la. Also cannot make movies about corruption in Gov agencies. Even if it was deemed inspired by. Also cannot make history based movies unless it is salinated to year 20xx disadvantaged idiots approval.

At the moment the Comedic Horror movie genre died. The religious love story movies also died. And so are most current fad titled movies that is not popular anymore. Racing movies are almost done away with.

Whats getting the sales for local movies these days are true horror movies and uniformed body movies like police & army.
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post Mar 28 2019, 02:49 AM

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Malay film the audience is only limited to local or maximum Indonesia, Chinese have little chance given experience in international distribution.
So we can explore English films.
Also censorship wise.

Good film making isn't difficult, marketing is the main problem as distribution are always the few big guys.
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post Mar 28 2019, 02:51 AM

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QUOTE(riezzien @ Mar 28 2019, 12:09 AM)
Laughing at comment who said no censorship will improve movie quality.
If sex scene is your benchmark to define movie is good thats just reflect how shallow ur mind is.
But then again this is /k, where argument is invalid.. So nvm la
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Needs his strawberry mind protected from double plus ungood badthink

Says others are shallow

Welp I don't know what I was expecting rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 28 2019, 02:57 AM

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Wolf of Wall Street also local production?

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post Mar 28 2019, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(riezzien @ Mar 28 2019, 12:09 AM)
Laughing at comment who said no censorship will improve movie quality.
If sex scene is your benchmark to define movie is good thats just reflect how shallow ur mind is.
But then again this is /k, where argument is invalid.. So nvm la
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Tell me if we're allowed to make a movie which suggest corruption in the police force, the government and semi-realistic portrayal of the the underworld. Or movie suggesting corrupt political dealings.

At least Indonesia has The Raid and its sequel, which may be fictional and not be the best, but good enough that Hollywood would wanna make their own adaptation. Do we have one of equal? We have the story of the Carrian Group, if anyone bother or dare to make a movie out of it.

As of 2018, Amir Muhammad's movie of Lelaki Komunis Terakhir which was made in 2006 is still being banned. It may not even be a good movie but why? And remember the movie "Dukun" of Mona Fandey murder & trial? Only recently in 2018 the ban was lifted although it was also filmed in 2006. Partly due to the portrayal of a particular assemblyman of a particular political party being involved in black magic.

If J. K. Rowling is born local, Harry Potter won't see a the light of day because "sihir & tahyul" and religious bodies, NGOs and political parties will make noise. And our authors are busy writing cheap romantic novels. Just go to MPH or any bookstore & look at the best-sellers ranking for local publications.

And obviously James Wan made his mark in the industry abroad, not locally. Why is that?

But then again, maybe Malaysians indeed are simplistic & shallow as you have suggested. Only sex crossed their mind when people speak of censorship.

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post Mar 28 2019, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Mar 28 2019, 03:08 AM)
Tell me if we're allowed to make a movie which suggest corruption in the police force, the government and semi-realistic portrayal of the the underworld. Or movie suggesting corrupt political dealings.

At least Indonesia has The Raid and its sequel, which may be fictional and not be the best, but good enough that Hollywood would wanna make their own adaptation. Do we have one of equal? We have the story of the Carrian Group, if anyone bother or dare to make a movie out of it.

If J. K. Rowling is born local, Harry Potter won't see a the light of day because "sihir & tahyul" and religious bodies, NGOs and political parties will make noise. And our authors are busy writing cheap romantic novels. Just go to MPH or any bookstore & look at the best-sellers ranking for local publications.

And obviously James Wan made his mark in the industry abroad, not locally.  Why is that?

But then again, maybe Malaysians indeed are simplistic & shallow as you have suggested. Only sex crossed their mind when people speak of censorship.
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Korea did exactly what you mentioned and they are a success story.
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Mar 28 2019, 03:13 AM)
Korea did exactly what you mentioned and they are a success story.
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They made a film about the 1987 Uprising and I enjoyed it myself.

An equal for Malaysia might be a film of the 98 Reformasi, but that might hit too close to home for someone, and act as a political propaganda for another.

Maybe a movie about the Mayban Finance, Taman Cheras of 6th March 1995, when the robbers tunneled underneath the bank & did it during Raya break.. But the current guidelines would say its belittling our police force & has no demonstration of moral values where "good triumphs over evil"

Alas, we're not lacking in good stories from various events.

Just sucky guidelines.
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QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Mar 28 2019, 03:08 AM)
Tell me if we're allowed to make a movie which suggest corruption in the police force, the government and semi-realistic portrayal of the the underworld. Or movie suggesting corrupt political dealings.

At least Indonesia has The Raid and its sequel, which may be fictional and not be the best, but good enough that Hollywood would wanna make their own adaptation. Do we have one of equal? We have the story of the Carrian Group, if anyone bother or dare to make a movie out of it.

If J. K. Rowling is born local, Harry Potter won't see a the light of day because "sihir & tahyul" and religious bodies, NGOs and political parties will make noise. And our authors are busy writing cheap romantic novels. Just go to MPH or any bookstore & look at the best-sellers ranking for local publications.

And obviously James Wan made his mark in the industry abroad, not locally.  Why is that?

But then again, maybe Malaysians indeed are simplistic & shallow as you have suggested. Only sex crossed their mind when people speak of censorship.
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Two issues that shouldn't be mixed up. 1 . (restricted) freedom of making movies 2. Commercial viability of said movies.


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post Mar 28 2019, 03:27 AM

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QUOTE(anuarnor @ Mar 28 2019, 03:24 AM)
Two issues that shouldn't be mixed up. 1 . (restricted) freedom of making movies 2. Commercial viability of said movies.
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Commercial viability indeed is an issue. Yes. I acknowledge that the movie industry isn't a charity. Its a business.

But that's the risk in business isn't it? Or just play safe and repeating the same old formula. As how they put it, ships are safe in the harbor, but that's not what they're for.

Good movies don't have to be expensive anyway.12 Angry Men is good. So is The Man from Earth, or The Breakfast Club though none is typical of Malaysian favorite genre or trend, as of now.

Perhaps good screenwriter, visionary director and realistic producer.

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Perhaps good screenwriter, visionary director and realistic producer.
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Nope, not gonna happen as long as R&R dictate Msia culture.
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post Mar 28 2019, 06:13 AM

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A movie about the making of the Wolf of wall street, could become an international hit!

Actually could maybe make a whole series of movies about Jho Low and Rezas misadventures in Hollywwod.
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Those who work in Malaysian Film Set will know. Its the bloody budget and crew treatment, good movies happen in Malaysia normally are big budget with a sane leader. Unsound leader heading film project with low budget memang giler. Butt lickers in the face kind of job, since film shooting takes months to complete, you will see all kinds of shit in an instant. Usually happens to moeny-not-enough production.
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QUOTE(Hookah Stuff @ Mar 28 2019, 06:44 AM)
Those who work in Malaysian Film Set will know. Its the bloody budget and crew treatment, good movies happen in Malaysia normally are big budget with a sane leader. Unsound leader heading film project with low budget memang giler. Butt lickers in the face kind of job, since film shooting takes months to complete, you will see all kinds of shit in an instant. Usually happens to moeny-not-enough production.
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I have not heard of any Malaysian film that broke the 20 million box office barrier, those are only Deadpool or better like Hollywood films.
So, how much is considered big budget in Malaysia?
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stop producing gangsterism, rempit, and ghost/funny horror films.

produce meaningful and creative films.
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go back to making classic melei movie

the original Badang movie was so good, the production value and art direction for the time, even today

so many classic song and scenes just from that one movie
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IMPROVED BY PRODUCING MORE MOVIE WITH THESE TITLES?

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QUOTE(sdin3269 @ Mar 27 2019, 10:51 PM)
So when is the last time u watch local movie in cinema? whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Kepong gangster.
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Iranian films has been winning awards worldwide even with all the censorship imposed in their country.

Its the story telling that matters and we seriously lack of it.
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The quality has been improving by leaps and bounds for the past few years. Yes it's still not up to par, but it has something to do with budget as well.


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QUOTE(frossonice @ Mar 28 2019, 07:37 AM)
Iranian films has been winning awards worldwide even with all the censorship imposed in their country.

Its the story telling that matters and we seriously lack of it.
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harap takde lar sequel Badang 2...
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can we get the greatest malaysian director ever to come back to malaysia and perhaps mentor some up and coming local directors? too bad he only made one movie set in malaysia (i don't want to sleep alone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Don%27t_Want_to_Sleep_Alone) but it was a good one nonetheless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsai_Ming-liang

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if u check youtube .. there alot of inspiring small time director what for action movie


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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Mar 28 2019, 06:51 AM)
I have not heard of any Malaysian film that broke the 20 million box office barrier, those are only Deadpool or better like Hollywood films.
So, how much is considered big budget in Malaysia?
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Itu box office adik oii...

I’m talking about filming budget oiii...

Drama Series like Marco Polo. Movies like Sean Connery scene in KLCC. Recenlty strike back series.
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There will always be good movies n crappy movies made in any film producing countries. Sure the malaysian movie production budget could be bigger but is it being used effectively. For me the most important thing that our film industry has failed to achieve is international recognition. I am not talking about winning foerign film festivals or the oscars but to enter the international culture. For example, indon has its the raid etc, thailand has its tony jaa , china has donnie yen etc. That only from martial arts movie perspective.
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QUOTE(Hookah Stuff @ Mar 29 2019, 01:04 PM)
Itu box office adik oii...

I’m talking about filming budget oiii...

Drama Series like Marco Polo. Movies like Sean Connery scene in KLCC. Recenlty strike back series.
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Saya tahu, tak ada box office siapa nak taruh big budget?
Sean Connery itu international release, berapa high budget ada kat Malaysia?
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QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Mar 27 2019, 10:48 PM)
Free space for creativity.

Which means, no censorship, either due to sex, violence, political, religious content etc.

But we won't and therefore couldn't and will stick with rempit, ghost and cheap rom-com
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every country has specialization

MY good at animation
ID good at action films
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Mar 31 2019, 01:15 PM)
every country has specialization

MY good at animation
ID good at action films
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MY good at animation

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From industry to comparison. Apa ni.😩

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