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 Die with massive DEBTS, A guru told me about that

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LoTek
post Mar 20 2019, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(woolei @ Mar 20 2019, 07:31 PM)
actually in the long run it sound logic.

imagine you buy alot of property with MRTA/MLTA, when you die, the MRTA pay off all your property, your children inherit all your wealth.

then your children do the same and pass to his children, then your blood line will have alot of wealth in future.
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Well some people purposely buy more and more life insurance for parents as they age. Even my dad believes in this tactic.
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post Mar 20 2019, 09:17 PM

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Good if property rental yield more than 6%.
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post Mar 20 2019, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(LoTek @ Mar 20 2019, 08:32 PM)
Well some people purposely buy more and more life insurance for parents as they age. Even my dad believes in this tactic.
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Die with massive DEBTS and MRTA/MLTA/Insurance
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post Mar 20 2019, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(LoTek @ Mar 20 2019, 08:32 PM)
Well some people purposely buy more and more life insurance for parents as they age. Even my dad believes in this tactic.
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Insurance are priced according to your mortality rate. So unless you die earlier than the projected age, then yes you will earn from the insurance. Else you either break even or pay more to the insurance company.

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post Mar 20 2019, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(LoTek @ Mar 20 2019, 08:32 PM)
Well some people purposely buy more and more life insurance for parents as they age. Even my dad believes in this tactic.
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There are many people believe they could beat actuarists in statistics and game the system

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post Mar 21 2019, 12:40 PM

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sounds like DSAW
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post Mar 21 2019, 12:58 PM

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That’s why so many running seminars cause they earn more than actual property investment which is not making much.

In other words one need to die at certain age so next gen can cash out.

If they cannot afford current cost what makes one think they can continue the policy for the next 20 years down the road.

Only give partial info so more will follow his footsteps which he is already one step ahead and make a profit by sub selling his properties. Whoever follow later become cash cow and watch them burn. LEL

This is only game for the rich.
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post Mar 21 2019, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Cookie101 @ Mar 21 2019, 12:58 PM)
That’s why so many running seminars cause they earn more than actual property investment which is not making much.

In other words one need to die at certain age so next gen can cash out.

If they cannot afford current cost what makes one think they can continue the policy for the next 20 years down the road.

Only give partial info so more will follow his footsteps which he is already one step ahead and make a profit by sub selling his properties. Whoever follow later become cash cow and watch them burn. LEL

This is only game for the rich.
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very well said. Another thing, if he has the knowledge than can make himself super rich, do you think he will share it out? By carrying out this seminar to teach ppl "how to invest, how to be rich", he is already earning money.
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post Mar 21 2019, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Cookie101 @ Mar 21 2019, 01:58 PM)
That’s why so many running seminars cause they earn more than actual property investment which is not making much.

In other words one need to die at certain age so next gen can cash out.

If they cannot afford current cost what makes one think they can continue the policy for the next 20 years down the road.

Only give partial info so more will follow his footsteps which he is already one step ahead and make a profit by sub selling his properties. Whoever follow later become cash cow and watch them burn. LEL

This is only game for the rich.
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Very Well said bro, i think seminars is where his real money come from...

QUOTE(anakMY @ Mar 21 2019, 03:57 PM)
very well said. Another thing, if he has the knowledge than can make himself super rich, do you think he will share it out? By carrying out this seminar to teach ppl "how to invest, how to be rich",  he is already earning money.
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To earn active income to sustain the instalment ma hahaha
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post Mar 22 2019, 05:59 PM

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1st of all, you need to calculate if you have enough to repay both the bank loan and the insurance company when you are still alive. The problem will kicks in when you don't have enough.

I have friends that got greedy after learning from these type of gurus and do loan compression. Now after 3 years, the cashout has been depleted and they are in deep trouble with cash. Some of them even having problem renting it out (remember we are in rental market now, so tenant has the last say on the rental price not the owner), some keep on calling to borrow cash. The main issue here is greed.

So, if you ask me, calculate your worst case scenario before playing this game. Ask yourself, worst case, if i can't rent it out can i still pay (loan + MRTA/MLTA) with my current salary. If you can't or if you think you will struggle then better don't do it

This post has been edited by lrm8888: Mar 22 2019, 06:04 PM
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post Mar 23 2019, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(LoTek @ Mar 20 2019, 08:32 PM)
Well some people purposely buy more and more life insurance for parents as they age. Even my dad believes in this tactic.
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Can still get life insurance at an older age? Once your diseases come in, most won't insure you for life, I think.
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post Mar 23 2019, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Mar 23 2019, 08:47 AM)
Can still get life insurance at an older age? Once your diseases come in, most won't insure you for life, I think.
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can, if no major disease, at fantastic cost..
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post Mar 24 2019, 05:50 PM

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He choose an honourable exit but please make sure that the insurance companies still pay the MRTA.

But children grow up without a father.. A void that can never be filled with money or property
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post Mar 25 2019, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Pac Lease @ Mar 20 2019, 06:56 PM)
concept is to refinance your property,but to get the loan to approved by the bank is another story.
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btw, how much "admin fee" (including stamping, lawyer, etc..) incurred in refinancing?

If you need some figures, take this: house value 300k 2014, current market value 500k 2019, loan 90%.
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post Mar 25 2019, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Mar 25 2019, 03:00 PM)
btw, how much "admin fee" (including stamping, lawyer, etc..) incurred in refinancing?

If you need some figures, take this: house value 300k 2014, current market value 500k 2019, loan 90%.
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Refinance fees will be Legal fees and valuation fees.

Refinance structure will be show as below :

MV 500k,
Margin of finance 90% = 450k

1. housing loan , lets said 290k
2. cash out 160k
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total loan 450k

legal fees estimated at 11,160
valuation fees estimated at 1,200

the above fees can be finance into your housing loan account.
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post Mar 26 2019, 09:07 AM

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If u have too much of debt, your life wont be good i tell u

I have a neighbour was fucuking rich... he was like a developer but tipu people
Took hard earn money from the military soldier promised to build homes for them, but never did
Sent car to my dad's service center and owed my dad more than 10k...
Somemore very show off, bought S class ask my dad go see his new car etc etc...

One day suddenly die heart attack, he was not old

My dad say how la u wanna have a good life if u owe money and make other people's life difficult.
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post Mar 26 2019, 02:13 PM

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ts please share what you have learned
PHI_1.618
post Mar 26 2019, 02:38 PM

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Read my last reply here:

Here

It is better if all your money is spent on your kids and wife. Buy all the cincin belian, gold, silver, USD, SGD...then u mati....

This post has been edited by PHI_1.618: Mar 26 2019, 02:38 PM
Ho Kah Heng
post Mar 27 2019, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(PHI_1.618 @ Mar 26 2019, 02:38 PM)
Read my last reply here:

Here

It is better if all your money is spent on your kids and wife. Buy all the cincin belian, gold, silver, USD, SGD...then u mati....
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Sound like bijan

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