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victorian
post Mar 17 2019, 08:42 AM

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Medical inflation is around 15% every year. So of course your insurance COI will go up as well. Insurance company will do repricing to reflect that medical inflation.
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post Mar 17 2019, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(peterpan888 @ Mar 17 2019, 12:24 AM)
Some insurance agent before 6 years...already quit the industry or change to another insurance company..let's say quit/changed on 3rd year....and you get referred to someone else..I assume the new guy don't get.the remaining of the commission, so face black black as they are they doing charity servicing you...

My assumptions true?
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So who will take the remain 4th to 6th year commission? No one but still being "charged" in the policy?
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post Mar 17 2019, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Mar 17 2019, 09:20 AM)
So who will take the remain 4th to 6th year commission? No one but still being "charged" in the policy?
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Goes to the agency I guess, agency manager will decide who will take over the cases
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post Mar 17 2019, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 16 2019, 06:00 PM)
Not the same insurance company as yours.
I received a letter from Gxxxx insurance company recently, that notify my medical insurance is going to increase a couple of hundreds next year.  sad.gif
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A couple of hundreds? OMG! That is a hell of an increase!
Is this the first time your premium is increased by them? How many years have you held this policy?

QUOTE(leelazens @ Mar 16 2019, 09:12 PM)
i believe ur letter and mine probably the same, but i suggest u also go 1 round allianz and ask them calculate,

and note on the faq section that, if u opt not to increase the premium, your policy sustainability may have problem.
for my plan, every year my premium add into some 'rider', and it keep decrease until nex year i pay again, if i dont pay the require amount, it will not have enough amount to support and hence the policy eventually will gone in some times.
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Yup so we have the same plan. I did not delve further as it is not that important to me anymore now.
If the policy lapses once the cost overruns the premium, then so be it.
I have been paying the premium for nothing as I don't use the medical anyways.

QUOTE(kbandito @ Mar 16 2019, 10:34 PM)
That’s why I hate ILP because the contract never address medical cost increase.
My friend who is an actuarial scientist for an insurance company says they only can assume 15% cost increase for the first 3-6 years, and from there they work out the premium charge. Which mean they are assuming zero increase from 6th year onwards, which is not going to happen.
But what’s certain is that the projection schedule that your lovely insurance agent shows you is fundamentally flawed and does take into consideration of a massive medical cost review.

The selling point of buy young to be safe is completely flawed.
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This is so true. What is the point of buying early when we have low risk?
Wait until high risk age baru buy more worth it, save on all thee increments sweat.gif
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post Mar 17 2019, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(kbandito @ Mar 16 2019, 10:34 PM)
That’s why I hate ILP because the contract never address medical cost increase.
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Standalone medical card also will suddenly increase price due to medical cost increase right? Correct me if I am wrong.
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post Mar 17 2019, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Mar 16 2019, 05:41 PM)
I received the same letter as well. From my understanding, it is not forcing you to increase your premium. They are "recommending" you to increase your premium (but you need to sign a form and return it to them). If you do not opt for the increase in premium, your existing policy will still be in-force. The only benefit if you choose to increase your premium, then you will get higher annual coverage and total coverage. I believe if you policy is the same as mine, then the coverage age will be increased from the current 80 to 100.

You can read from the comparison table that they are merely "recommending" you to opt for the increased premium. Not forcing.
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Yay it is more like a top up and coverage will increase too when sum insured increased.
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post Mar 17 2019, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(epie @ Mar 17 2019, 08:10 AM)
I got a standalone medical card from zu****
Got a letter from them stated they are  going to increase the premium around 60% starting next year
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Damn..
So high increase...
Yours old plan? hmm.gif
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post Mar 17 2019, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 17 2019, 08:13 PM)
Damn..
So high increase...
Yours old plan? hmm.gif
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this is my 2nd year cry.gif
before this i got old plan with other company...terminate it bcos of low coverage
no regret also
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post Mar 17 2019, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Mar 17 2019, 06:46 PM)
Standalone medical card also will suddenly increase price due to medical cost increase right? Correct me if I am wrong.
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Yes, both are the same.
Maybe I should rephrase to ‘I hate the way insurance agents selling ILP’
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post Mar 17 2019, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(epie @ Mar 17 2019, 09:25 PM)
this is my 2nd year  cry.gif
before this i got old plan with other company...terminate it bcos of low coverage
no regret also
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huh..
second year increase so high...
did u underdeclare anything previously to them unsure.gif hmm.gif
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post Mar 18 2019, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 17 2019, 11:06 PM)
huh..
second year increase so high...
did u underdeclare anything previously to them unsure.gif  hmm.gif
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Nope..the increase affected all customers
I have consulted my agent...and she confirmed this
Now i need to change my policy again haha
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post Mar 18 2019, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(epie @ Mar 18 2019, 01:56 PM)
Nope..the increase affected all customers
I have consulted my agent...and she confirmed this
Now i need to change my policy again haha
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Hehehehe changed to cheaper alternative..
Post update if u found one.. Because it seems like industry wide hike 😴🙅
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post Mar 18 2019, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Mar 17 2019, 05:32 PM)
A couple of hundreds? OMG! That is a hell of an increase!
Is this the first time your premium is increased by them? How many years have you held this policy?
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Has been with the policy for decade+
Not the first time already.

Compared with first sign up, the premium next year will be nearly 3x the origin when the policy started time, this is inevitable as getting older.

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post Mar 18 2019, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Mar 17 2019, 05:32 PM)
I have been paying the premium for nothing as I don't use the medical anyways.
This is so true. What is the point of buying early when we have low risk?
Wait until high risk age baru buy more worth it, save on all thee increments sweat.gif
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Insurance company is a not charity or welfare organization.

insurance agents commission is from buyers.
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post Mar 18 2019, 03:07 PM

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Lol issue is when you sign up they promise you the sun and moon...later when you try to claim macam2 alasan cant claim...end up refer to GH also. Rather not buy which is rare...anyone no insurance here?
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post Mar 19 2019, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(epie @ Mar 17 2019, 08:10 AM)
I got a standalone medical card from zu****
Got a letter from them stated they are  going to increase the premium around 60% starting next year
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Standalone medical card
1 possibility:-
1. jump into the new age bracket
40-45=XX
46-50=XX

from 45 to 46 can lead to 60% increase


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post Mar 19 2019, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(Ewa Wa @ Mar 19 2019, 12:55 PM)
Standalone medical card
1 possibility:-
1. jump into the new age bracket
40-45=XX
46-50=XX

from 45 to 46 can lead to 60% increase
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it is not because of age
i have the premium table with me bro
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post Mar 19 2019, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(epie @ Mar 19 2019, 03:57 PM)
it is not because of age
i have the premium table with me bro
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wa 60% ? where got so high o
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post Mar 19 2019, 05:43 PM

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I am with HLA and they increased twice in the last 4 years by 20% each time (if my mind recalls correctly). But I take it as inflation, if you buy stuff in other currencies you'll know RM is bad at the moment.
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post Mar 19 2019, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ Mar 19 2019, 05:43 PM)
I am with HLA and they increased twice in the last 4 years by 20% each time (if my mind recalls correctly). But I take it as inflation, if you buy stuff in other currencies you'll know RM is bad at the moment.
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increased twice in the last 4 yrs at 20% each time.... blink.gif doh.gif
MYR currency got drop so much meh? hmm.gif

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