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post Mar 14 2019, 10:39 PM, updated 7y ago

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I will start first.
Engine is sr20ve 20v full overhaul + clutch rebuilt.
Current total parts cost around 1.45k

To include:
1. Original RIK piston rings set rm400
2. 8 exhaust valves - rm18 x 8 = rm144
3. workmanship = rm900
4. Hoses = 1xx
5. Bottom end bearings reused since still very good and mech say better keep it as it is.

Estimated total = 3.1k

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post Mar 14 2019, 10:48 PM

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ni siap bore hone ka?
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wait. head gasket 490? rclxub.gif
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post Mar 14 2019, 10:50 PM

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Mine is not overhaul but just engine leaking for my 13 years old Avanza 1.5cc

Change items
1. Flywheel oil SEAL
2. Timing chain GASKET
3. Fuel pump gasket
4. Head gasket
5. Oil Pan gasket
6. Ignition coil plug
7. Plug

Labour RM700. Cheap?
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post Mar 14 2019, 10:52 PM

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but you put back buggered pistons
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post Mar 14 2019, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Mar 14 2019, 10:48 PM)
wait. head gasket 490? rclxub.gif
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Yes ori nissan sr20ve metal head gasket is around rm450 (i checked in mudah). My mechanic buy for me include post come here he charge me rm490.

Honing yes. But not bore.
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post Mar 14 2019, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(kyan smile.gif @ Mar 14 2019, 10:50 PM)
Mine is not overhaul but just engine leaking for my 13 years old Avanza 1.5cc

Change items
1. Flywheel oil SEAL
2. Timing chain GASKET
3. Fuel pump gasket
4. Head gasket
5. Oil Pan gasket
6. Ignition coil plug
7. Plug

Labour RM700. Cheap?
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Labour only rm700? If include all rm700 then cheap.
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post Mar 14 2019, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 14 2019, 10:52 PM)
but you put back buggered pistons
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Pistons condition are still ok after he polish it as the craters are not deep and the sides dun have scouring or scratches. No hairline cracks.
Of course not perfect la. But still considered good.
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post Mar 14 2019, 10:59 PM

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Use what clutch ? Kring kring ka
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Mar 14 2019, 10:58 PM)
Pistons condition are still ok after he polish it as the craters are not deep and the sides dun have scouring or scratches. No hairline cracks.
Of course not perfect la. But still considered good.
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I check 3 shops d all quote labour not including parts at 700.. Any cheaper shop to recommend?
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post Mar 14 2019, 11:05 PM

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Hmm, weird overhaul.
Reshim on valve clearance?
Water pump? Dont gamble on this and it is bitch to replace without remove many things if the engine sit in front bay.
Belt?
Valvecover's seal?



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QUOTE(yeezai @ Mar 14 2019, 10:59 PM)
Use what clutch ? Kring kring ka
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Sadly clutch set my mech cannot buy new set... I prefered new although expensive a bit. But he said everything else is still good, so can repair no issue.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Mar 14 2019, 10:39 PM)
I will start first.
Engine is sr20ve 20v full overhaul + clutch rebuilt.
Current total parts cost around 1.45k

To include:
1. Original RIK piston rings set rm400
2. 8 exhaust valves - rm18 x 8 = rm144
3. workmanship = rm900
4. Hoses = 1xx
5. Bottom end bearings reused since still very good and mech say better keep it as it is.

Estimated total = 3.1k

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Mileage?
Cvt transmission?
Oil change interval for engine & transmission?
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post Mar 14 2019, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Mar 14 2019, 11:05 PM)
Hmm, weird overhaul.
Reshim on valve clearance?
Water pump? Dont gamble on this and it is bitch to replace without remove many things if the engine sit in front bay.
Belt?
Valvecover's seal?
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Ya he will recheck the clearance. Water pump already included rm165. No need change belt as its using timing chain. Valve cover seal included.
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post Mar 14 2019, 11:10 PM

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Recommend to replace all rubber hose and water metal pipe that located underneath the intake manifold, these things not worth to save money.
You might not find all the direct replacement hose, can get it from part dealer to find similar size and curve, cut it to fit.
All the oil seal and oring advised to replace when the engine undergoing overhaul.
Skim the flywheel if show uneven surface.
For the driveshaft boot, dont use cheap brand, recommended to replace it with seiken brand which you can find in jalan ipoh.
You are good to go.
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post Mar 14 2019, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(evangelion @ Mar 14 2019, 11:09 PM)
Mileage?
Cvt transmission?
Oil change interval for engine & transmission?
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Original mileage dunno as previous owner changed the meter during engine conversjon.
Manual 6 speed front, 1 reverse.
Oil change for gearbox n engine oil sure do later after done overhaul.
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post Mar 14 2019, 11:12 PM

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Those normal belt, not timing belt, sr20 engine is bitch to replace belt when engine in place, you gotta cry when adjust and tighten it, unless your car is rwd configuration
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post Mar 14 2019, 11:15 PM

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there are a malay operated garage shop in subang 2, they sell many of the rare nissan part, you can call them for used part.if you needed to find something


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post Mar 14 2019, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Mar 14 2019, 11:11 PM)
Original mileage dunno as previous owner changed the meter during engine conversjon.
Manual 6 speed front, 1 reverse.
Oil change for gearbox n engine oil sure do later after done overhaul.
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Meter has been tempered.....any reason why u bought it even though it has been tempered?
Previous owner ur friend?
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post Mar 14 2019, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Mar 14 2019, 11:10 PM)
Ya he will recheck the clearance. Water pump already included rm165. No need change belt as its using timing chain. Valve cover seal included.
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Recommended to send the head to machine shop for clearance adjustment instead of hand adjustment which some foreman use knife grinding stone to finish the job, no good.
Unless he manage to find genuine nissan shim to do refit.
Machine shop charge around rm20 per valve.
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post Mar 14 2019, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Mar 14 2019, 11:15 PM)
there are a  malay operated garage shop in subang 2, they sell many of the rare nissan part, you can call them for used part.if you needed to find something
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Oh those normal belts. Aiya forget. Maybe increase budget another 100? May i have the contact for this garage shop? Fb page got?
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post Mar 14 2019, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Mar 14 2019, 11:10 PM)
Recommend to replace all rubber hose and water metal pipe that located underneath the intake manifold, these things not worth to save money.
You might not find all the direct replacement hose, can get it from part dealer to find similar size and curve, cut it to fit.
All the oil seal and oring advised to replace when the engine undergoing overhaul.
Skim the flywheel if show uneven surface.
For the driveshaft boot, dont use cheap brand, recommended to replace it with seiken brand which you can find in jalan ipoh.
You are good to go.
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Yes going to replace all hoses too. Oil seal and oring all change. I see you also have a sr16/20 neo vvl.
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post Mar 14 2019, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(kyan smile.gif @ Mar 14 2019, 10:50 PM)
Mine is not overhaul but just engine leaking for my 13 years old Avanza 1.5cc

Change items
1. Flywheel oil SEAL
2. Timing chain GASKET
3. Fuel pump gasket
4. Head gasket
5. Oil Pan gasket
6. Ignition coil plug
7. Plug

Labour RM700. Cheap?
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Fuel pump gasket? Wtf
Car got petrol smell? Does recommend to replace the pump if mileage exceed 100k.
Fuel rail does have some seal can be replace to prevent vaccum leak.

Mistake -

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post Mar 14 2019, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Mar 14 2019, 11:26 PM)
Fuel pump gasket? Wtf
Car got petrol smell? Does recommend to replace the pump if mileage exceed 100k.
Fuel rail does have some seal can be replace to prevent vaccum leak.

Oil pan use gasket glue

P12 Sr20ve 20v use coil on plug, i doubt he actually change it which you almost impossible to find in local, unless he got manyak lubang.

NGK iridium spark with 7 hot range should good enough.
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U got it wrong, he is not driving a sr20ve. Lol.
My coil on plug already change to distributor type. Kinda a downgrade but thats what the car is when i took it from the previous owner. I am using ngk iridium with 6 heat range.
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You could have bought a Mercedes GLC250 with the money spent on old cars.

After overhauled, still an old metal scrap.
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post Mar 14 2019, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(evangelion @ Mar 14 2019, 11:19 PM)
Meter has been tempered.....any reason why u bought it even though it has been tempered?
Previous owner ur friend?
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Not tempered, but change to another type of meter. Nissan primera p13 original meter cannot fit nissan b13.
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post Mar 14 2019, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(kyan smile.gif @ Mar 14 2019, 11:03 PM)
I check 3 shops d all quote labour not including parts at 700.. Any cheaper shop to recommend?
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700 very expensive la. Mine 900-1000 include take out whole engine, dismantle and replace all wear n tear..
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Mar 14 2019, 11:30 PM)
You could have bought a Mercedes GLC250 with the money spent on old cars.

After overhauled, still an old metal scrap.
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I dont like old mercs.
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post Mar 14 2019, 11:33 PM

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post Mar 14 2019, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Mar 14 2019, 11:29 PM)
U got it wrong, he is not driving a sr20ve. Lol.
My coil on plug already change to distributor type. Kinda a downgrade but thats what the car is when i took it from the previous owner. I am using ngk iridium with 6 heat range.
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My bad, already edit it asap still u got me, haha
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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Mar 14 2019, 11:21 PM)
Recommended to send the head to machine shop for clearance adjustment instead of hand adjustment which some foreman use knife grinding stone to finish the job, no good.
Unless he manage to find genuine nissan shim to do refit.
Machine shop charge around rm20 per valve.
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Going to change all exhaust valve because he said seating a bit off. He said wont reach rm20 a piece. Around 16-18 like that. Intake valve he said no problem.
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If the previous owner still use the original dual mass flywheel, its gotta be expensive to fix when it goes bad
If im not mistaken, the clutch plate for this 6mt is quite rare. Maybe thats the reason you rebuild it
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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Mar 14 2019, 11:39 PM)
If the previous owner still use the original dual mass flywheel, its gotta be expensive to fix when it goes bad
If im not mistaken, the clutch plate for this 6mt is quite rare. Maybe thats the reason you rebuild it
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Yeah its rare. My mechanic called until his kl friends, also dont have. So no choice, have to rebuilt. But hey, its cheaper! Lol
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Try ask him to usd high grade silicone gasket maker, timing chain area is prone to leak if the foreman use typical grey color stuff.
Original toyota gasket maker is quite good but expensive.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Mar 14 2019, 11:29 PM)
U got it wrong, he is not driving a sr20ve. Lol.
My coil on plug already change to distributor type. Kinda a downgrade but thats what the car is when i took it from the previous owner. I am using ngk iridium with 6 heat range.
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wow, why previous owner changed to distributor ignition? would you revert back?


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QUOTE(jesserider223 @ Mar 14 2019, 11:50 PM)
wow, why previous owner changed to distributor ignition?  would you revert back?
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I also cant brain this. Unless he use other version of ecu with single ignition signal output.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Mar 14 2019, 11:33 PM)
I dont like old mercs.
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GLC isnt old yet, it's only few years old at most, in term of model lineup launch

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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Mar 14 2019, 11:42 PM)
Try ask him to usd high grade silicone gasket maker, timing chain area is prone to leak if the foreman use typical grey color stuff.
Original toyota gasket maker is quite good but expensive.
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Haha i actually kacau him a lot already. But i will pass him your advice. Thanks a lot.

Btw for the valve seals, he said grey colour valve seal is good valve seals. Not the best la, but ok. He told me different color different quality. Do u know anything about this? Because i wanted japan valve seals but he only can find 'perfect' china brand valve seals.. rm6 a piece
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Mar 14 2019, 11:36 PM)
Going to change all exhaust valve because he said seating a bit off. He said wont reach rm20 a piece. Around 16-18 like that. Intake valve he said no problem.
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would it cost a lot more if all engine's wear tear parts change to new one?

wouldnt you rather renew the entire engine in this occasion? like brand sparking new....

did you change the camshafts and crankshaft?


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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Mar 14 2019, 11:51 PM)
I also cant brain this. Unless he use other version of ecu with single ignition signal output.
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He is using normal sr20ve ecu, paired with emanage blue. Revv cut at 8500.
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QUOTE(jesserider223 @ Mar 14 2019, 11:55 PM)
would it cost a lot more if all engine's wear tear parts change to new one?

wouldnt you rather renew the entire engine in this occasion?  like brand sparking new....

did you change the camshafts and crankshaft?
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Yes a lot more. Much more. Probably 3x more. Camshaft and crankshaft rarely spoilt one la. Unless no oil before or overheated a lot.
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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Mar 14 2019, 11:51 PM)
I also cant brain this. Unless he use other version of ecu with single ignition signal output.
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Hmmm, other versions of ecu? means not aftermarket engine management?

why would nissan equipped this engine with such type of ecu? hmm.gif

how does your engine perform now in your car? from which nissan donor model it came from?


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QUOTE(Balanced @ Mar 14 2019, 11:54 PM)
Haha i actually kacau him a lot already. But i will pass him your advice. Thanks a lot.

Btw for the valve seals, he said grey colour valve seal is good valve seals. Not the best la, but ok. He told me different color different quality. Do u know anything about this? Because i wanted japan valve seals but he only can find 'perfect' china brand valve seals.. rm6 a piece
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Not valve seal but gasket maker glue, the one use on timing chain cover and oil pan.

Valve seal can get from sim ghee autopart at jalan ipoh, genuine nissan. Bring sample to them for double check, i think it is same as typical sr20

In this case, you better send your fuel injector for ultrasonic cleaning as well, you can always do a flow test first before proceed. Cleaning part must watch him do or send to reliable person to handle it, 90% in the market charge full but not doing the work properly.

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Toyota fipg, this is best.
Bmw or merc version also got, work great but gotta tears cry alot when try to remove it in the future.

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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Mar 15 2019, 12:00 AM)
Not valve seal but gasket maker glue, the one use on timing chain cover and oil pan.

Valve seal can get from sim ghee autopart at jalan ipoh, genuine nissan. Bring sample to them for double check, i think it is same as typical sr20

In this case, you better send your fuel injector for ultrasonic cleaning as well, you can always do a flow test first before proceed. Cleaning part must watch him do or send to reliable person to handle it, 90% in the market charge full but not doing the work properly.
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I am in penang and i do not know anyone who does ultrasonic cleaning for fuel injectors.. usually cost how much for the cleaning?
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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Mar 15 2019, 12:00 AM)
Not valve seal but gasket maker glue, the one use on timing chain cover and oil pan.

Valve seal can get from sim ghee autopart at jalan ipoh, genuine nissan. Bring sample to them for double check, i think it is same as typical sr20

In this case, you better send your fuel injector for ultrasonic cleaning as well, you can always do a flow test first before proceed. Cleaning part must watch him do or send to reliable person to handle it, 90% in the market charge full but not doing the work properly.
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wow, you are really meticulous when it comes to this, if you even clean injector ultrasonic-ly, you must have really high standard, this would be the real rebuild standard

the toyota gasket maker, is it hard to find? and suitable for all kinds of seal requiring glued gasket?

and in the previous post mentioning the manual transmission, if the parts are hard to find, then by rebuilding it and retaining old parts would mean it performs like new again?



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QUOTE(jesserider223 @ Mar 15 2019, 12:00 AM)
Hmmm, other versions of ecu?  means not aftermarket engine management?

why would nissan equipped this engine with such type of ecu?  hmm.gif

how does your engine perform now in your car?  from which nissan donor model it came from?
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Original engine sr20ve 20v is from nissan primera p12, paired with cvt transmission.

I do not know the exact reason why need to change the engine ecu to a ecu used by nissan sr20ve (no 20v), but it could be due to the cvt transmission? Even those at overseas i see some of them also same like mine. Convert from coil on plug to distributor type.
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Mar 15 2019, 12:07 AM)
I am in penang and i do not know anyone who does ultrasonic cleaning for fuel injectors.. usually cost how much for the cleaning?
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Go look for those mechanic garage that do service and repair for superbike, usually they have the cleaner, just not sure they want to do business or not

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better just top up abit and buy new engine
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QUOTE(jesserider223 @ Mar 15 2019, 12:08 AM)
wow, you are really meticulous when it comes to this, if you even clean injector ultrasonic-ly, you must have really high standard, this would be the real rebuild standard

the toyota gasket maker, is it hard to find?  and suitable for all kinds of seal requiring glued gasket?

and in the previous post mentioning the manual transmission, if the parts are hard to find, then by rebuilding it and retaining old parts would mean it performs like new again?
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Lol, thats a pretty common practice. It is one of the main reason to caused strange idling issue, normally people overlooked the problem.

Typical part shop got already, local toyota fipg is packed by uwm, if I'm not mistaken

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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Mar 15 2019, 12:14 AM)
Lol, thats a pretty common practice. It is one of the main reason to caused strange idling issue, normally people overlooked the problem.

Typical part shop got already, local toyota fipg is packed by uwm, if I'm not mistaken
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Yeah it can cause idling issue. But now currently so far very smooth la. I will go check see tmr. Since the injectors are out anyway
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For 6mt sr20ve 20v setup in a sentra is fun but you need to solve for a few things if want to race with those late model street car on the road, hehe
1)Soft engine mounting problem ( find oem hard mounts)
2)Soft suspension problem (aside spring and shock, get hard bushing , b13 rear side got one big arm can not use hardbush, or can break it, u need to study it)
3) soft chassis problem ( need some useful bar to strengthen up abit)
4) Get better brake system

At the end, worth or not to spend that much money, 8 years ago I'm still hot headed to mod here mod there, 8 years later, feeling kind of wasted to do such things.

But it does vastly improve your knowledge on car if you like it and mod it with hobby mentality. Nothing wrong with that. DSLR enthusiast probably can buy bmw with their investment on those lens and gear.

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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Mar 15 2019, 12:28 AM)
For 6mt sr20ve 20v setup in a sentra is fun but you need to solve for a few things if want to race with those late model street car on the road, hehe
1)Soft engine mounting problem ( find oem hard mounts)
2)Soft suspension problem (aside spring and shock, get hard bushing , b13 rear side got one big arm can not use hardbush, or can break it, u need to study it)
3) soft chassis problem ( need some useful bar to strengthen up abit)
4) Get better brake system

At the end, worth or not to spend that much money, 8 years ago I'm still hot headed to mod here mod there, 8 years later, feeling kind of wasted to do such things.

But it does vastly improve your knowledge on car if you like it and mod it with hobby mentality. Nothing wrong with that. DSLR enthusiast probably can buy bmw with their investment on those lens and gear.
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1) soft engine mount problem - so far mine doesn't have problem.
2) soft suspension - yup, now boat feeling. Probably use other shocks will improve?
3) soft chassis problem - yeah can feel a bit.
4) better brake system - upgraded.
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post Mar 15 2019, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Mar 15 2019, 01:29 AM)
ada oil squirter ke
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I think dont have...
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post Mar 15 2019, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Mar 15 2019, 02:05 AM)
I think dont have...
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All VVL engine got oil squirter as standard features
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post Mar 15 2019, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Mar 15 2019, 08:12 AM)
All VVL engine got oil squirter as standard features
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Oh i didnt know that. Thanks for correcting me.

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