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cubiclecarbonate
post Mar 12 2019, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Mar 12 2019, 08:22 AM)
Seriously I wanna ask this

Fight for country, can get bumi status or not?

If not, better fight with less effort compare to bumi 😝

Benefit different bah
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lol fighting for defense also nak berkira
SUSEBBattlefield
post Mar 12 2019, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Mar 12 2019, 08:22 AM)
Seriously I wanna ask this

Fight for country, can get bumi status or not?

If not, better fight with less effort compare to bumi 😝

Benefit different bah
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a saw a fb post suggest this before.....but it's from a guy that doesn't seem to understand that although the majority of the army is made out of malays.....the majority of malays may not make army material... biggrin.gif



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post Mar 12 2019, 08:37 AM

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Actually in chinese ancient times, many soldiers were being forced to join. I think at that times, this bad mind sets being embedded in the mind. Now every one become army all very scare
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post Mar 12 2019, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(garywind @ Mar 12 2019, 08:37 AM)
Actually in chinese ancient times, many soldiers were being forced to join. I think at that times, this bad mind sets being embedded in the mind. Now every one become army all very scare
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bodo tu simpan sikit can ?
PLA don't have recruit ka?

It's just the whole perception of race preferences in the armed forces and the low wages that's preventing the desired quota in the armed forces. You can add strawerry if you want la, but i think strawberry is across the board so long as parents pamper their kids too much.
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post Mar 12 2019, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(cubiclecarbonate @ Mar 12 2019, 08:30 AM)
lol fighting for defense also nak berkira
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Thought provoking eh

Equal treatment and reward should bestow upon them apart from heroic acts and valor

In other words can say, why berkira with someone who fight to keep our country safe?

QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Mar 12 2019, 08:31 AM)
a saw a fb post suggest this before.....but it's from a guy that doesn't seem to understand that although the majority of the army is made out of malays.....the majority of malays may not make army material... biggrin.gif

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Thought provoking and controversial


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post Mar 12 2019, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Mar 12 2019, 08:46 AM)
Lowyat incident is not the worst..there are other cases that worst then lowyat incident..if not because of this malay police your type of species is 6 feed under by now..
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More like if not your species kowtow to Abang Tongsan in a secret meeting after this event hehehe

Abang tongsan arrival in petaling street, even your species red shirt monkeys don't dare enter as per instruction from the above

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post Mar 12 2019, 08:56 AM

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Actually thought of joining the navy back then as I am a ship person.
I didn't pass the physical - weight requirement, under 50kg.
Now too old already.
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post Mar 12 2019, 09:07 AM

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post Mar 12 2019, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Mar 12 2019, 08:55 AM)
More like if not your species kowtow to Abang Tongsan in a secret meeting after this event hehehe

Abang tongsan arrival in petaling street, even your species red shirt monkeys don't dare enter as per instruction from the above
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Wooooo...cool story bro..abang tongsan la..kowtow la..haha all rubbish...im talking about Isis,JI level..not some stupid triad in the city..if not fo those malay police protecting our society..your petaling stree or bukit bintang is flat by now by those isis..

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post Mar 12 2019, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 11 2019, 01:30 PM)

user posted image

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the size...
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Mar 12 2019, 08:28 AM)
kennot.....
if you kill all the pigs.....bursa, wall street all empty.......become ghost town  laugh.gif
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kill them allll~

QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Mar 12 2019, 10:24 AM)
the size...
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fetish gemuk datang daa
SUSEBBattlefield
post Mar 12 2019, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Mar 12 2019, 09:19 AM)
Wooooo...cool story bro..abang tongsan  la..kowtow la..haha all rubbish...im talking about  Isis,JI level..not some stupid triad in the city..if not fo those malay police protecting our society..your petaling stree or  bukit bintang is flat by now by those isis..
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Exactly....

for all the shit that people give UMNO leaders, they actually talk business at the end of the day.....

Malaysian green party politicians though......die liao.
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post Mar 12 2019, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Radioactive Infused Cola @ Mar 11 2019, 05:48 PM)
are you implying high level chinese officers would possibly be traitors?
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What if I tell you there exists a particular country for many2 years (some say now no more but we'll see) did not trust any member coming from a certain race bcoz sked they will defect to motherland in case war happened.

So many people of that race even if they volunteered for service (not conscripted like the majority there) cannot even pass certain rank or get assigned to certain 'sensitive' roles or even get access to certain 'sensitive' facilities unescorted by majority race soldiers (even if you went there under orders).

So soldiers of this race remain low level cannon fodder all of their careers because they cannot be trusted by the government who scared they will turn traitor if they are given high rank. Not to mention the entire Navy and Air Force is virtually closed off to this race because they can't be trusted to handle high tech weapons in case they turn traitor?



What if I told you this country and this kind of thinking actually exists? laugh.gif

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post Mar 12 2019, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 12 2019, 04:10 PM)
What if I tell you there exists a particular country for many2 years (some say now no more but we'll see) did not trust any member coming from a certain race bcoz sked they will defect to motherland in case war happened.

So many people of that race even if they volunteered for service (not conscripted like the majority there) cannot even pass certain rank or get assigned to certain 'sensitive' roles or even get access to certain 'sensitive' facilities unescorted by majority race soldiers (even if you went there under orders).

So soldiers of this race remain low level cannon fodder all of their careers because they cannot be trusted by the government who scared they will turn traitor if they are given high rank. Not to mention the entire Navy and Air Force is virtually closed off to this race because they can't be trusted to handle high tech weapons in case they turn traitor?
What if I told you this country and this kind of thinking actually exists?  laugh.gif
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i would say prove it with a cold hard facts instead of the usual hearsay.
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post Mar 12 2019, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Radioactive Infused Cola @ Mar 12 2019, 04:11 PM)
i would say prove it with a cold hard facts instead of the usual hearsay.
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I think those forumers actually serving and have contacts with that country's military personnel will come explain later.

Here's a taste for you, this is from 2015: SINGAPORE ARMED FORCES FINALLY ACCEPTS MALAY MUSLIM SOLDIERS INTO ARMOUR FORMATION
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For the uninitiated, the Singapore Armour formation do not have Malay soldiers since its inception in 1968 for unspoken reasons.

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Suspiciously missing from all the NS50 bluster and forced pride is the fact that Malay youths were virtually (not officially, mind you) excluded from conscription from 1967 till 1977.

Even when they were eventually let in, they were mainly positioned to serve in the police force or the fire brigade. The small minority of Malays who manage to be called up into the military were given menial jobs, and are (almost always) excluded from key defense roles such as intelligence, the air force, commandos, artillery units and more — a practice that arguably continues to this day.

The Ministry of Defence keeps insisting that the selection of personnel in various military vocations is not based on race. “The ethnic composition of commanders is similar to that in the general population,” Minister for Defence Dr Ng Eng Hen said in a  2014 response to a Parliamentary query about the racial breakdown across National Service vocations.

The unofficial, widely understood reason is this: There is uncertainty as to where the loyalties of the Malay community lie should Singapore engage in war with neighboring Muslim-majority countries such as Indonesia and Malaysia.
NS50 celebrates 50 years of National Service, but conveniently forgets its past discrimination against Malays

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I served as a Signaller in 35 SCE, HQ Company, from 2005 to 2006. The fact remains that the Signal Formation is distinct in its exclusion of Malays, as are certain other units, such as 39 SCE, CBRE Defence Group, the Armour Formation, Reconnaissance units and Military Intelligence amongst others. This is anecdotal evidence and also based on personal experience and observation within the institution – as most Singaporean men can attest to. The token Malays are a consolation, an exercise in Public Relations. Only a fool would think otherwise.

Malays are subject to an official policy of systemic general discrimination and treated with distrust even before enlistment. Malay absence from SAFOS scholarships and near-absence from SAF Merit Scholarships deserves special mention. This absence of Malays is an extension of the discrimination against the admission of Malays into senior and sensitive positions in the SAF that is officially sanctioned by this policy.

The discrimination against Malays has been discussed in parliament and the media, and is justified by the assertion that the loyalty of Malays cannot be assumed, both because they are Muslim and because they have a racial and ethnic affinity with the Malays in Malaysia and Indonesia (Barr,2006).

This discrimination hits Malay men hardest, first because it deprives many of promising careers in the military, and second—and more pertinent for our study of the elite—it all but completely excludes potentially high-flying Malays of a chance of entering the scholar class through the SAF (Barr,2006). To quote a blogger on this issue which I feel sums up the situation:

This policy of excluding local Malay-Muslims from sensitive key positions in the SAF has, for obvious reasons, drawn quite a bit of flak, not only from neighbouring countries which perceive it as an implicit suggestion that they, being of a Malay-Muslim majority, would be the enemies of Singapore but also from members of the local Malay-Muslim community who perceive it as an act of implicit discrimination and suggestion that they may be disloyal to Singapore. (LCC,2009)
Unfair discrimination of Malays in National Service


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QUOTE(SliparJepun @ Mar 9 2019, 09:34 AM)
my guess is 4-5pages top
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16 pages?
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post Mar 12 2019, 07:20 PM

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i miss a lot!!!!!miss a lot of popcorn here...

i thought it already died page 13 when i leave....but damn...its alive and well....
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post Mar 12 2019, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 12 2019, 04:20 PM)
I think those forumers actually serving and have contacts with that country's military personnel will come explain later.

Here's a taste for you, this is from 2015: SINGAPORE ARMED FORCES FINALLY ACCEPTS MALAY MUSLIM SOLDIERS INTO ARMOUR FORMATION

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NS50 celebrates 50 years of National Service, but conveniently forgets its past discrimination against Malays

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Unfair discrimination of Malays in National Service
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you sure have a lot of juice and tasty sos there.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 12 2019, 04:20 PM)
I think those forumers actually serving and have contacts with that country's military personnel will come explain later.

Here's a taste for you, this is from 2015: SINGAPORE ARMED FORCES FINALLY ACCEPTS MALAY MUSLIM SOLDIERS INTO ARMOUR FORMATION

laugh.gif

Also:
NS50 celebrates 50 years of National Service, but conveniently forgets its past discrimination against Malays

Also:
Unfair discrimination of Malays in National Service
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Remember the Go Jek incident
one FB page came a joke about a malay applying for Navy and uses the "It's because I am Malay" catchphrases
but the things escalated so quickly they took it down after about 6 hours, but most of the juicy comment are screenshot, even I was enjoying reading the comment

the Malay in SAF not even a 3 rate citizen; more like a social pariah as most of the commentor is an ex-NS and even ex SAF they raise a very shocking details like on how some building have a No-Malay policy and some building where Malay are need to be escorted and treated with due diligence or even prejudice laugh.gif

while some say the induction of Malay in the armour is more wayang as what they did in the unit is not even as essential member portrayed by the media and jangan fikir la nak pergi duduk dekat MBT

it is good for the FB page to took it down, it will surely effect the RSAF image

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