QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 5 2023, 04:08 PM)
well...
he said not enough $$$ for retirements.... only have like 1k per month for 20 years
yet some parties asking for 10k special withdraws.......
Jusr wonder how he came out with the #
If just pluck in general then not really showing the real picture
For example, I know someone having not much in EPF because he / she is a Gov servant and the EPF contributed was during the waiting period to be converted to pension scheme and now already in pension scheme sure no more additional inflow from salary
And of course there are many other cases like employees became employers and stopped contributing etc.
If these are also included sure diluted the #, but I know... not easy to seggregate these pool of ppl from total contributors
QUOTE(faizfizy39 @ Jul 5 2023, 04:30 PM)
So what do you guys think? Good? Bad?
Bad for myself
I have self dicipline so I am not the typ that need to be forced but this will take away my flexibility and cash liquidity when I reach 55yo
QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jul 5 2023, 10:35 PM)
If all EPF wanted to do is to hold RM 240K at age 55 and gradually reduces the holding amount down until say age 80, go ahead. It may be a decent thing to do to help many poor retirees.
Those of us who planned properly for retirement knows that RM 240K in a safe FD earning decent rates is a form of diversification and should not worry much.
But before they implement this, EPF should make sure none of those special withdrawals ever happen again... if want to happen also must charge penalty like 15% on special withdrawals....
I don't think it will go until 80... max is 60yo or worst 70yo
Average Msians only live up to 70+

But that's too early to say because they only 'study' and you know some studies you will always hear the thunder but never rain
And EPF I don't think they can 'confirm plus chop' that special withdrawal will not happen as you know... if another side took over then this will surely happen
QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Jul 5 2023, 11:07 PM)
That is why i refuse to self contribute any more savings into epf after so much political interference with the fund. Imagine you have an emergency and epf tell you that you can only take out rm1k per month until 75 years old. My money, i want to be able to take out anytime i want after 55yo.

Ya if you have self dicipline that really takes away freedom, flexibility and liquidity