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post Jun 18 2007, 05:13 PM

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no no
PcWork will like his new nick as Sonus Faber
XD
he already not in love in AM like last time
something really distract him lately XD

the "something" is not sonus faber
but is something budget n nice

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post Jun 18 2007, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Edifier S2000 @ Jun 18 2007, 05:04 PM)
i would like too see some comparison also.

S2000 vs aegom  rclxms.gif

S2000 vs other entry level bookshelf speaker(eg: diamond 9.1, epos m5, and etc)
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i duno
S2k for me, i just treat it nice at vocal only
n this s2k bookshelf bass is really for musical n just ngam ngam only
AM might more well balance for various genre songs n music

S2k might b need to aim with some Integrate amp (something like marantz, NAD those) to bring it potential?
always wanna try it but cant see any 1 here did tat b4
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post Jun 20 2007, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(xterminator @ Jun 20 2007, 03:03 PM)
Walabies,yuheng,pcwork...let's take down S2000... tongue.gif
AegoM vs S2000...yo..a very interesting topic rclxms.gif
We should find some ppl who had listen to S2000 and AegoM before and ask them which sound better... hmm.gif
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u can save it for PcWord audit
i always say S 2k not bad
he straight say, where can
Aego M is much better XD


Boss Alex, if want i can bring my aego M to ur there to try AB test XD
if u dun mind to pay for the parking whistling.gif
i will bring a long CDP gua if want
if marcus there
i bring along Michael Buble CD biggrin.gif



but have to find 1 day ur guys free n i free also...


Added on June 20, 2007, 4:26 pm
QUOTE(Edifier @ Jun 20 2007, 04:23 PM)
What is the price of the Aego M?
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AM price is RM 750 on ward depend some different condition n service

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post Jun 20 2007, 04:37 PM

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Mr Edifier
S2000v got an amp inside the right channel
how bout S2000? also got?
i forget dy, last time set up them, i just plug to amp, forget right channel got another amp inside o not
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post Jun 20 2007, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jun 20 2007, 05:13 PM)
S2000 comes with external decoder which include an amp la.

I already did a comparison with my bro AegoM so count me out. Besides Im very busy, 6days work.

My impression of AegoM is a bit like Akabane. Its good but for me, its just as good as it gets. S2000 offers something different. Thats why I said taste matters. It offers refinement, details and smoothness over the AegoM. Though it might lack a sub, but honestly if you ask me, comparing to AegoM, I dont feel I miss the sub.


Added on June 20, 2007, 5:14 pmBTW, test in Edifier showroom?
Lastime I audition the S2000 there. Seem like they are using either on-board or Audigy1 only le.


Added on June 20, 2007, 5:22 pmIMO, not many ppl will pay RM799 for a 2.1 speaker system, let alone RM1499 for a 2.0 system (or RM999 during the promo). The reason is simple. They would rather buy a cheapo 5.1 speaker set which has lots of bass and boom boom boom. I was like that too lastime, boasting ACS48 + ACS45.1 when I first introduced to 4.1 with SB Live.

ACS90>ACS45>ACS45.1>ACS48>BOSTON BA7500>S2000.
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lol
my jumping is something shocking.gif
i last time use a creative SB 2.1, duno wat model, cheapo
then suddenly own a bookshelve, n the bookshelve much power than S2k tongue.gif
but i still satisfy with AM sound, tat y i will like to take it to compare AB

n tat the reason b4 i asking, since S 2k is a pasive speaker, as u said the decoder come with AMP, i assume the S2K wont sing if without tat amp, wat if pair with better amp, how the potential will go?, tat wat i really like to found out

i try arrange n see how biggrin.gif might can do a audition next saturday if i manage to get some free slot
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post Jun 21 2007, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinyam @ Jun 21 2007, 12:07 PM)
If the DAC inside the S2000 is not up to the expectation, I guess S2000V will be a better bargain then. It's priced at about RM750 and I guess it's more worth the price since the amp and speakers are the same.
I wonder if anyone have tested it (S2000/V) with AV710 before.
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can't do
coz S2000v got integrate amp at the right channel speaker
is consider active speaker, n i found it really under power...
not nice at all...
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post Jun 21 2007, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jun 21 2007, 05:21 PM)
Hmm... I dunno cos I didnt test out S2000V. Dont know why I wasnt bother at all to test it when I audition S2000. Maybe they used better component for it, or maybe they used the surplus to include an external casing, digital input and remote control. Who knows unless you open it up for inspection.

Under powered? Dont know why you said so. I have to set Foobar at -6db to avoid clipping and left ASIO at 0db. That way allows me to crank the volume to full without clipping. Same method used by ICE tuner where they use osciloscope to adjust gain on amp while maxing the volume on the cd player. Its really loud minus the bass of course. Why dont you make a second trip to Edifier showroom to test it out yourself. Dont be shy.. just crank up the volume all the way till you feel enough ba. Its 40W RMS per channel so I think you either too shy to crank it up or you're deaf.


Added on June 21, 2007, 5:23 pm

Hahahaha.. actually to be honest, I have no idea.
I too was poisoned by Ijan post back in Team EMU. He has finalise the mod and will take a week to complete it after he received the card. Just haf to wait n see.
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lol
i meant s2000 V la, only got a volumn knob, tat when maximum, hardly loud

u no need to worry
those boss there know me dy
marcus, alex those know who i am 1 tongue.gifl
coz i work for them b4
i even work at ALL IT tat i can test all the speaker there myself till i deaf tongue.gif
S2k i duno how loud it can b, but at all IT, i maximum it... the sound is like...5 %~10% of my home setup bookshelves

but it is b coz i use proper amp
tat the reason i keep asking if S2000 pair with proper amp, wat will its potential reach till
kapitan, next time we got chance, u bring ur setup s2k to my place, we AB test it XD
i can try to hook ur S2k to my amp n see how it goes
might b something interesting tat make u give up ur EMU whistling.gif
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post Jun 21 2007, 06:24 PM

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u remind me...
i think S2k cannot simply connect to amp
it might burn both thing

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post Jun 21 2007, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jun 21 2007, 06:25 PM)
LOL...
Whats the point of buying the S2000 then?

If you really want to buy a good amp, it can cost thousands. Man, you really are crazy. If you want to spent 2-3k, better get a hifi set.

If S2000 is like 5-10% of your home bookshelf, it feel like you not having bookshelf. More like floor stander speaker liao.


Added on June 21, 2007, 6:35 pm

Depends. I think the speaker in S2000 might be 4ohm. Start off with low volume for starter. Then slowly increase. I dont see a reason why it shall blow up if you dont overfeed it.


Added on June 21, 2007, 6:44 pmhttp://jimmyauw.com/2006/12/12/edifier-goes-to-another-level/

S2000 review in English. Basically he also feel the need to turn it pass 50%, so I guess its a must to crank it so loud.


Added on June 21, 2007, 7:04 pmhttp://www2.beareyes.com.cn/cgi-bin/joytlun.pl?id=a&job=post&numb_can=103851&ceng_can=0&p=20070612103851&his=14

If you click here, you would find that S2000 is indeed using a so-so DAC.. PCM1732 which feature HDCD but not spectacular at all...
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bookshelve is almost same as floorstander la
just slightly not tat much bass compare
PcWork addict with 1 of the bookshelves from Sonus Faber n he say floorstander also not as nice as it

really depend
dun categorize booksleve is lower than floorstader, coz they almost the same level.

is not about wat the point of getting S2k if wanna get amp or watever
from the begining till now
i just repeating the same thing n question
is, how far can S2k Bookshelves go?
ppl always desire better, dun u wanna let ur S2k b much better?
tat y need to find it out ma
then ur guys keep repeating " then wat the point of getting S2k" pula
zzz
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post Jun 21 2007, 07:53 PM

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zzz
u dun get it leh
i just want experiment
dun mean i wanna own it like tat
wont u b more happy tat if let say, u heard ppl done experiment on S2k SQ can reach same level as 5k or 6 k or evern higher price settings after tuning or MOD or adding something
at least u know ur S2k got tat potential to do tat, but dun mean u need to do it ma
get wat i mean o not?

bookshelves is make out to pair with nice amp to sing well
tat is the reason i comparing
i comparing like tat coz S2k got level of HIFI entry
did u see i ever ask ppl to try on other those 2.1 or 5.1 multimedia speaker?
Aego M got it limits, it can only change cable n hook up with nice DAC or CDP then can sing very nice

but S2k can change amp also
since is a bookshelves, tat is no wrong to pair it with different amp right?
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post Jun 21 2007, 09:59 PM

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OMG
u still dun get it
nvm
i dun think u really know wat the use of Passive bookshelves
as i tot S2k is 1 of them tat y will suggest
nvm dy
nothing, go on with ur so call everything original, n i dun think i even mention bout MOD or anything, i just suggest put a nicer AMP on, n i even din talk bout cable some more
n u give me tat lot of BS tat tot i duno wat u meaning
pass it on, i out of this discussion


Added on June 21, 2007, 10:01 pmn oh ya
y bother to MOD ur EMU at the 1st place? shakehead.gif

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post Jun 22 2007, 11:53 AM

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lol
too bad this few weekend full schedule
next week end gonna have fun at KK for 1 week
while tomorrow got Transmy 3rd gathering ( for transformers fans 1 XD)
then sunday need to go shop for the KK trip
hopefully after back from KK, i can find slot, then i'll contact u,
or if want, u bring ur set to my place better, at least only move ur S2000
then we both test n find some 1 else come to audit it
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post Jun 26 2007, 10:05 AM

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i not even turn more than 50%
those ppl come n warn me dy T_T
but 40% enuff to make the floor shake XD

i think better make it at my place la tongue.gif
u la, can't make to the gathering

eh, how bout we make our own speaker gathering this saturday?
PcWork, u come over to my place la, i come find u at friday to bring u
Pm u n discuss tongue.gif



arrsoo, u this saturday afternoon free?

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post Jun 26 2007, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jun 26 2007, 10:12 AM)
eh my speaker is bigger than urs eh.. how to go ur place.
=P
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but my stand heavier leh
i have to seperate thing out, mean got 3 item
while ur only 2 block tongue.gif
nvm la
since u also not free dy
but i sure will 1 day compare urs n me XD
see which is the real beast whistling.gif
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post Jun 26 2007, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jun 26 2007, 10:19 AM)
sorry. can't share the price of B&W601
anyway the current speaker i am using is not B&W601
601 is in my hometown , my daddy use it.


Added on June 26, 2007, 10:21 am
if u dare, bring ur CA to my place tonight. see what is real beast... lol  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  i upgraded speaker cable and added spike eh..... =P
don't forget i driving a 100Watt speaker with a 9 Watt Yulong T-amp eh... tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
for computer use / bed room use / become alarm clock. if i am not mistaken, his house haven't put door bell yet.. coolerthings.. how? want me mod ur AE-M to doorbell?

DING DONG also sound sweet....
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ish ish ish
nvm la
i will find day see i bring ur set or my set to AB test
wait till u free 1st
u so busy lately tongue.gif
if no AB test really hard to test it out, coz this both speaker is almost samecategory
got different also i dun think is easy to differetiate( if no put it as AB test)

wait u back from sarawak 1st la
i mean at july
tonight coming over to syok little, but i dun think wanna bring the CA, troublesome also de whistling.gif

but this saturday shud have AM n S2k comparison if Arssoo dun mind bring his set to my place rolleyes.gif
but i only available 1 pm ~ 5 pm like tat


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post Jun 26 2007, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jun 26 2007, 10:39 AM)
the price i get is sort of half buy half free. as i am very very very close to the seller.
=)
dude.. his toys collection, each of the toys is enough to get almost 1 AEGO M already..
u say he rich or not?
if he happy, he might even buy Cardas cable / Zu cable to put on his rice cooker.. make rice smell "audiophile" some more.
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wei wei wei....
mana ade...
i not rich k....
is something like u, work hard save hard to get wat u want, n tat's all
is bout how much afford u put smile.gif
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post Jun 26 2007, 05:47 PM

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again
u not get the point
i repeat again n again,
i just wanna know is there any improvement
i never say wanna own the setup, or ask ppl to make their setup like tat
all i wanna know, is how S2k performance
is an experiment, is not bout owning, is not bout the price worth it o not
but is a bonus to ppl out there tat own S2k if they know their S2k got lot of potential after the experiment

at least when they get enuff with the current sound, and wanna get something better or upgrade more, they no need to get another set of speakers, but just get a nicer amp to pair with it, then voila XD

so u say is tat waste money or save? u the 1 tat judge
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post Jun 28 2007, 08:15 AM

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me n arsoo aranging something,
n i even got some plan with PcWork bout speakers meet
we see how later on
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post Jun 29 2007, 01:15 PM

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Arsoo not convenient to bring his set to my there this weekend
as i not available to go out from my place to LYP coz fren coming to my place
will going for a trip this sunday for 1 week
so wont b free to test it this few weeks
or we can try compare it during speakers gathering
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post Jun 29 2007, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(kapitan @ Jun 29 2007, 03:02 PM)
Ok... thats good...
Its not us who decide the final design and components used, though you can debate all night long but its not gonna make Edifier changed their minds anyway. Most just want to read reviews. Even the EMU card which cost hundred of dollars uses crappy op-amp, so its not just Edifier.
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but it also doesnt mean end user like us can't complain right?

critiques n comment will make them improve their product
i know u really satisfy with ur own S2k
but not all of the others
some ppl want more
n request for better,
i dun think tat is a problem to edifier to take those complain,
but it seem tat's a problem to u?

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