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Ramjade
post Jul 30 2019, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(chickenessence @ Jul 29 2019, 11:30 PM)
Thanks.
i can see this only:
https://www.tradestation-international.com/.../exchange-fees/

Exchange Fees - Currency: EUR, GBP, USD
ETFs:  Fee @ 0.45 bps of trade value   or min.: USD 0.13 per Order

Clearing Fee:
All USD 0.08
All GBP 0.06
Would like to ask further on the currency exchange to USD for buying.

What is the method u guys used?
i saw this blog from other forum.
https://keykeytravels.blogspot.com/2019/07/...conversion.html

Are u guys following the method from this blog?
which as per the blog Step 2c,
to go into order ticket, search for USD.SGD., then convert accordingly.

or...using the apps where there is "convert currency".
Using the apps, Under Trade:
order ticket,
order wheel
portfolio
ibot
"convert currency".

Any advise on which way to go for?
which method is recommended?

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if the ask price is 1.37176
and i need 1,000.00 USD,
means i need 1,371.76 of SGD.. is that correct?
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I use this meyhod
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=92207301
QUOTE(roarus @ Jul 30 2019, 01:01 PM)
This should give you an idea how it would look like if you did FXCONV vs IdealPRO
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IdealPRO is more suitable forex players, where a position is maintain to be closed easily.

Both have same conversion fee and rates, just the matter of preference. Personally I don't like seeing a FX position along with my holdings.
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So you use FXCONV?


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Ramjade
post Jul 30 2019, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(roarus @ Jul 30 2019, 02:19 PM)
Yup, drove me up the wall the last time I accidentally used IdealPRO that I spent additional USD4 closing the position and redoing it with FXCONV
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Any idea how to use Fxconv via web trader instead of client portal?
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post Aug 2 2019, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(Zegoon681111 @ Aug 2 2019, 04:50 PM)
Hi guys, need opinion from all the seniors here.

Are you guys still buying in s&p 500?
Do you guys have faith that it will continue to go up?

I have the fund in hand now, this will be my first time investing in foreign etf, so a bit kancheong,lol

Besides from s&p 500, what other etf have you guys invested in ? Mind to share?

Thanks guys
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I don't do S&P500 as it forces you to sell to realise your gain. Imagine if is a bear market and you are force to sell.

I focus on dividend and dividend growth investing. Come rain or shine, money always enter my bank account. Price goes up, I sit and watch. Price drop I scoop up using my savings + dividend received. Hence generating even more money yearly.

Don't care if it beats s&p500 as long as I am not forced to sell when I don't want to sell.

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post Aug 2 2019, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Aug 2 2019, 07:54 PM)
Hehe.. Careful ya... Div not guaranteed rain or shine.

Yes our fren above. Do your own due diligence. Why not start with a book on index investing?
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Correction. Reits and Dividends aristocrat. Reits forced by law to pay out. So rain or shine definitely have to pay something biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Ramjade
post Aug 2 2019, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Aug 2 2019, 09:41 PM)
hehe....sunreit macam yes...too bad im late to party  cry.gif

is there a real estate dividend index fund? anyone know?
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Yes. Not worth it. Better if DIY. Higher returns. Buying S&P500 is very different VS DIY reit ETF.
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post Aug 7 2019, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Aug 7 2019, 07:02 PM)
Walao why keep dropping? Tipu lah!
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Welcome to investing. Index investing aren't fool proof as the underlying is still stocks. So if stocks price drop, index will follow. After all, investing in index/etf means you are getting market return ma. These few days market damn bad. tongue.gif tongue.gif Good shopping spree. Reason why I don't do DCA. Keep money for time like this biggrin.gif biggrin.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Aug 7 2019, 09:06 PM)
waiya, ppl die until jump floor u pour cold water  laugh.gif
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10% drop already want to jump floor? Give me a 30% drop tongue.gif tongue.gif
Mega sales cheers.gif cheers.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Aug 8 2019, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Sumofwhich @ Aug 8 2019, 01:01 AM)
Hope you don't mind sharing:
Which reits or dividend stocks do you buy?
Which platform do you use?
Any tips for a Malaysian based investor?
Thank you!
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CKI infrastructure, GA pack, ICBC
Cromwell EUR reit
I got so many more to buy but no money.
Tradestation global but login using Interacrive broker?

What tip you want? I don't give buy or sell tip. I buy and hold. Sell if fundamental changes.
My tip keep your cost as low as possible especially if you are like me, poor fag. Be patient. Keep money. Avoid FOMO. Rising DPU does not lie. If you FOMO, you will never have money to buy.

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post Aug 9 2019, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(Sumofwhich @ Aug 8 2019, 10:40 PM)
Thank you. Tips as in how Malaysians can invest in SG reits for example
Nope, not those lol. Everyone would be rich if they can predict tops and bottoms
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If you use tradestation global, just transfer SGD into their SG virtual bank account.
I have SG bank account so just do transfer like IBFT.

Not sure if Interacrive broker receive transfer from 3rd party like instarem.

If you don't want to open Tradestation global, can go with FSM SG. But that severely limit you to only SG and HK market compare to worldwide with Tradestation global (interactive broker)

You can do it using Malaysian broker also but be prepared to pay higher cost (higher commission, dividend fees, quarterly fee, markup exchange rate)

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post Aug 9 2019, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Aug 9 2019, 05:24 PM)
How/where you open US bank account?

You wanna now open SG bank account to avoid ToS usd25 withdrawal fee?
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Transferwise borderless account.
- IB doesn't accept money from transferwise (USD)
- not sure about sending to tranafwise

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post Aug 10 2019, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Aug 10 2019, 08:48 AM)
Thanks for answering.  I still blur to his intention, as I recall ToS charges $25 for usd withdrawal only, to any outside account. So if he has US bank then no reason for SG bank. AFAIK ppl open SG account so as to myr-sgd-usd... so the ToS $25 is probably a red herring

Also USBank is a thing...

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To open US bank account you need to be on US soil and is a must to have Social Security Number.
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QUOTE(Sumofwhich @ Aug 10 2019, 12:16 PM)
I originally thought withdrawal from ToS to US bank account is free, then use transferwise or instarem to transfer back to Malaysia OR from Malaysia transfer to US bank account and deposit to ToS. SG is purely to mimic ramjade's investment strategy.
P.s. I've never used instarem or transferwise yet
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SG is my main port. I convert to RM-> SGD. From there I convert to the SGD into whatever currency I need.

My US bank account (transferwise) is to received cashback from shopping on US website.
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Aug 10 2019, 12:53 PM)
Noted. Maybe cheaper to open say a tradestation account, buy shares in ToS and xfer it out to tradestation, sell it and then free withdrawal. Worth checking out. Was told ToS got good tools for options but higher fees everything.
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When you transfer, you need to pay the current holding broker some transfer fee.

So if you want to buy, pick a broker and use that broker to buy. Don't ever transfer.
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QUOTE(Zegoon681111 @ Aug 15 2019, 12:10 AM)
Hi guys

I’ve funded my TS account via IB.

I’ve received email from TS to download TWS etc.

1. Can I just ignore all those and straight away log in from IB’s website and proceed?

2. from IB’s website, I just search for SXR8 and proceed?
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Yes. Don't need TWS.
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post Aug 25 2019, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(dreaming_gal123 @ Aug 25 2019, 01:33 PM)
I see. If we use Maybank global trade then dont need to go through the hassle to transfer money to sg and transfer back right?
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Convert at in house exchange rate as mentioned by dwRK (more expensive by about 3%)
Higher commision charged per transaction. Say (USD10 vs USD3)
- I am not sure how much maybank charges.
X% of dividend fees to be paid to maybank
Possible quarterly platform charges.

If you feel like paying them all the above charges, by all means continue to use them.

A little hassle to by going the SG route to save lots of money in the long run. But worth it in the future.

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QUOTE(dreaming_gal123 @ Aug 25 2019, 02:10 PM)
Understand now. Thank you all the sifu for the useful insights!
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I edited my post.
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QUOTE(niceguypenang @ Aug 25 2019, 06:05 PM)
alex, you have move to tradestation and yr first page is still capetrader. .

i just want to know which the trading account that should be open generally?
if tradestation..... what are the criteria? do i need to travel to kl?

as for fund transfer from Malaysia bank to eg. using cimb babk to tradestation, what is best method to avoid high fees and commission?

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Depends on which market you want to buy. Read back a few page about why Captrader is cheaper than tradestation and why tradestation is cheaper than Captrader.

Cash. Do not use margin unless you are OK with borrowing money and invest.
There's 2 tradestation, tradestation and tradestation global. If you want the Whitelabels of Interactive broker use tradestation global. Fnd it with USD5000. That's the criteria. Travel to KL only if you want an Instarem account (they only service Klang valley. Not sure if they service Penang or JB.

You will find many problems using Malaysians banks to transfer to the virtual bank account no given by interactive broker. Main reason is interactive broker deals with Forex. Since Malaysians govt doesn't like forex so most Malaysians banks don't let you deal with interactive broker.

Cheapest options is direct instarem > Interactive broker. Apparently there are some currency you can't direct Instarem. For me I use the following method Malaysian banks > Instarem > SG banks > FAST tranafer (IBFT) to Interacrive broker virtual bank account in SGD > convert to whatever currency I want using interactive broker own exchange (at spot rate - cheaper than money changer at cost of USD2/conversion)

A little bit of inconvenience to save on those pesky fees for long term. SG banks not problematic when come with dealing with interactive broker unlike Malaysian banks.

Hope this answer your questions.

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QUOTE(niceguypenang @ Aug 26 2019, 07:34 AM)
Thank you very much for long explaination. Greatly appreciated.

So basically I need the following

1. open instrarem account for malaysia.
2. open Singapore bank account eg maybank or cimb?
3. open tradestation account with IB... which is the right website ? so do we need tradestation global?

If eg. CIMB Malaysia to CIMB Singapore, money transfer I assume the exchange rate and fee is higher, right?
So instrarem is to be use to save cost.

Yup I am from Penang.. instrarem in KL only.
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Yes. If you don't want to open SG bank account, can only use instarem for EUR. IB doesn't accept USD from instarem. Later when you want to sell, maybe costly send money back from interactive broker > Malaysia.

Take a 3 days leave and go down to KL to open an account with instarem. Yes to save significant money. Avoid USING any Malaysian banks to transfer money. Cimb SG - > Cimb MY as rates not bad but not Cimb MY - > Cimb SG.
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QUOTE(niceguypenang @ Aug 26 2019, 07:12 PM)
Thanks for advice. what is procedure to get instrarem sign up?
If I apply online which address should i fill up? I don't have KL address.
Could I apply online only aetup a day to travel to kl for interview?
Usually what they will ask?
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Sign up online. You don't need KL address. Then for meeting with instarem part, do as what alexkos did. Meet them at KL central, then went back to perak I think. Tell them where you want to meet them. Their office? KL Sentral? Some shopping mall in KL? Your pick. You pick the place, date and time.

Up to you. One day enough? Penang to KL is not near. How many hours you need to travel down to KL? They operate during office hours only. If you settle everything already with them, how are you going to go back? Can you work the next day? Won't you be tired with the travelling? If one day enough for you then so be it.

For me I email/chat with them. They don't support east coast state so no choice need to meet them in Klang Valley.

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Oct 15 2019, 03:57 PM)
BigPay allows transfers to international banks in few currencies including SGD.
But I haven't tried it so I'm curious if anyone has done it before and whether it's cheaper.
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But definitely won't be in your name. IB is very particular that the originating bank account must be in your name.

So far only leeway is for EUR.
People said BigPay is more expensive than instarem.

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