QUOTE(pw8799 @ Feb 26 2019, 07:24 AM)
why ? haha
Just asking opinion, which type of company should I join first ?
I just want to learn and gain some useful experience first
Wrong thing to say.salary for fresh grad
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Feb 26 2019, 08:06 AM
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Feb 26 2019, 08:09 AM
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The correct way is to jump jump jump...
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Feb 26 2019, 08:28 AM
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Feb 26 2019, 08:42 AM
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Feb 26 2019, 10:09 AM
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working at sites better la bro, can see lot of different things that you will not see in your life...better income too....i mean normally site ppl got different kind of side incomes.
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Feb 26 2019, 11:40 AM
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I have switched from being on site in O&G, construction field, design in O&G, manufacturing, and now in IT. My opinion to you is to test the water, irrelevant to what others say and as you progress, you will know what you want in your career. Just focus on getting your first job and progress from there. If you are lucky, you will get into a superb M&C paying RM3.5k a month, if you are joining Ah Seng Construction Sdn Bhd, you may end up with a RM2.5k a month. So it all depends.
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Feb 26 2019, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(Harry_Bobinski @ Feb 26 2019, 11:40 AM) I have switched from being on site in O&G, construction field, design in O&G, manufacturing, and now in IT. My opinion to you is to test the water, irrelevant to what others say and as you progress, you will know what you want in your career. Just focus on getting your first job and progress from there. If you are lucky, you will get into a superb M&C paying RM3.5k a month, if you are joining Ah Seng Construction Sdn Bhd, you may end up with a RM2.5k a month. So it all depends. Thanks for sharing. Are you also in engineering practice? My inexperienced self didn't know that we could switch to so very different fields. I am also a fresh currently working in O&M field... thinking of what line I could go to next. |
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Feb 26 2019, 12:09 PM
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Yeah I used to be, and then I stopped being an engineer altogether and decided to go for big data field. Some soft skills are definitely transferable.
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Feb 26 2019, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(Harry_Bobinski @ Feb 26 2019, 11:40 AM) I have switched from being on site in O&G, construction field, design in O&G, manufacturing, and now in IT. My opinion to you is to test the water, irrelevant to what others say and as you progress, you will know what you want in your career. Just focus on getting your first job and progress from there. If you are lucky, you will get into a superb M&C paying RM3.5k a month, if you are joining Ah Seng Construction Sdn Bhd, you may end up with a RM2.5k a month. So it all depends. I plan to learn things and gain new experiences... Should I join small firm first so that I can learn better? My uncle advised me to join those big company as I have good cgpa now... But really not sure now... |
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Feb 26 2019, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Feb 26 2019, 10:09 AM) working at sites better la bro, can see lot of different things that you will not see in your life...better income too....i mean normally site ppl got different kind of side incomes. I have to say that I am not those outgoing type of people, I think consultant job suits me better |
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Feb 26 2019, 01:29 PM
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Feb 26 2019, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(pw8799 @ Feb 26 2019, 01:26 PM) I plan to learn things and gain new experiences... Should I join small firm first so that I can learn better? My uncle advised me to join those big company as I have good cgpa now... But really not sure now... Depends on your personality. If you are driven and you will not mind working 14 hours a day doing a 4 man job, then join a small firm first. If you are more towards work life balance and want benefits and not overwork, then join a big one. But do remember, big firms look better in resume.QUOTE(pw8799 @ Feb 26 2019, 01:27 PM) Not outgoing? How are you going to be a consultant? How are you going to consult if you are not outgoing?This post has been edited by Harry_Bobinski: Feb 26 2019, 01:47 PM |
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Feb 26 2019, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(Harry_Bobinski @ Feb 26 2019, 01:47 PM) Depends on your personality. If you are driven and you will not mind working 14 hours a day doing a 4 man job, then join a small firm first. If you are more towards work life balance and want benefits and not overwork, then join a big one. But do remember, big firms look better in resume. Joining small firm will learn more? Is it true?Not outgoing? How are you going to be a consultant? How are you going to consult if you are not outgoing? |
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Feb 26 2019, 03:00 PM
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Learn more only because you will be stressed to. 14 hours a day, sometimes work weekends. Some small firms will not acknowledge Deepavali as a holiday (if no Indian working there) and will give you only 11 days of stipulated public holiday.
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Feb 26 2019, 03:52 PM
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No short cut in engineering, starting pay is shit. Nobody wanna pay a fresh grad high salary when they have to teach the fresh grad the knowledge they need to climb the ladder.
Your money only comes in later when you have acquired enough skills to be an engineer. REAL ENGINEER. Not the i'm an engineer cos i have a degree in engineering. |
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Feb 26 2019, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Feb 26 2019, 03:52 PM) No short cut in engineering, starting pay is shit. Nobody wanna pay a fresh grad high salary when they have to teach the fresh grad the knowledge they need to climb the ladder. Can you describe what defines a real engineer? I want to know what can I do to build myself up to it.Your money only comes in later when you have acquired enough skills to be an engineer. REAL ENGINEER. Not the i'm an engineer cos i have a degree in engineering. |
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Feb 26 2019, 08:22 PM
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Normally , how long would i take for the HR for the candidate to respond for the job reply ? Actually i applied for many company during intern and I gt several offer.... I feel sorry to decline the offer last time. Do i need to make up my mind now whether joining big company or small company? Or i can apply for many jobs at the same time ? Maybe i gt several job offer and choose small firm to start my career , But i maybe joining those big company next time...I dont want the HR to ''blacklist'' me ...
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Feb 27 2019, 08:02 AM
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QUOTE(pw8799 @ Feb 26 2019, 08:22 PM) Normally , how long would i take for the HR for the candidate to respond for the job reply ? Actually i applied for many company during intern and I gt several offer.... I feel sorry to decline the offer last time. Do i need to make up my mind now whether joining big company or small company? Or i can apply for many jobs at the same time ? Maybe i gt several job offer and choose small firm to start my career , But i maybe joining those big company next time...I dont want the HR to ''blacklist'' me ... just join any company that has a project that interest you......you talk 5 weeks on forum won't help you in securing any job. |
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Feb 27 2019, 08:03 AM
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QUOTE(Murasaki322 @ Feb 26 2019, 06:33 PM) Can you describe what defines a real engineer? I want to know what can I do to build myself up to it. This one very dangerous.....Like who can be called a doctor or what is the strength of a piece of steel, they are very technical. The title Engineer can only be hold by someone with a degree recognised by BEM |
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Feb 27 2019, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Feb 27 2019, 08:03 AM) This one very dangerous..... No....the degree don't qualify you as an engineer. That gives you the entry level to be a graduate engineer...you still have to hone your skills and learn the trades. These things are not taught in University.Like who can be called a doctor or what is the strength of a piece of steel, they are very technical. The title Engineer can only be hold by someone with a degree recognised by BEM |
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