mind ask is DCT transmission reliable ?? how about maintainance cost is it high ???

Didn't hear any complaint about honda dct so far.

Volkswagen however, no need tell ady la

This post has been edited by JoeK: Feb 23 2019, 12:31 PM

As a ex-ford owner, Dct actually requires a slightly diff driving style, and anticipation of 'gearshift lag/jerk effect'. Cuz dct shifts example gear 2-3 usually got a jerking feel like manual shifting. But most cvt/conventional drivers step harder on the gas, which stresses out the dct.

So vw n ford had their fair share of probs. Honda, time will tell. Cvt leadfoot usually one of the reasons for early dct failure.

Expensive ke?

Ya I wonder how's the reliability too.. Will it lasts longer or similar to conventional gearbox?

VW jetta 2019 ok

VW wet DCT less problem, if dry got hell of problems

Honda dry DCT belum tau lagi

I don't believe in DCT, its like the worst of both world, either manual or full auto is the best.

hybrid dct is good,

all the things that dct cannot do, is taken care of by electric motor

like creeping in traffic jam and parking

is it as reliable as conventional auto? depends on model but generally no.

Is it expensive to maintain? fluid services are similiar, got cheap got expensive. The expensive wear-and-tear service is clutch replacements, which typical cost thousands.

DCT's achilles heel is low speed high load conditions, eg. pro-longed slow traffic or going uphill slowly. Wet DCTs sort of mitigate this weakness but still not entirely.

They work better at high speed and hard acceleration, ideally coupled with powerful, high torque engines.

Lastly, driving a DCT requires a slightly different driving style to keep it healthy.

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 23 2019, 01:37 PM

in term of reliability.
manual > conventional auto > cvt (not jatco made) > dct (wet clutch) > cvt (jatco made) = dct (dry clutch)

i guess it not going to change anytime soon.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Feb 23 2019, 01:46 PM

honda is dry dct ?

u mean bike? 1 of my coworker die in honda bike dct 4th gear stuck

From Pauline Tan

'"Honda claims to have rectified the issue through an extensive two-year testing programme which was conducted in Malaysia. The study led to the strengthening of several components within the dry dual-clutch transmission, giving Honda a good enough reason to finally give the Jazz Hybrid and City Hybrid the green light for Malaysia."

https://<link removed>/2017/09/18/driven-honda...t-hybrid-i-dcd/

How abt how much conventional 4 speed auto myvi axia alza cost

That would mean DCT not suitable for city driving where traffic jam and slow driving is common condition?

Ford Focus with a dry clutch DCT. In 6 years the clutch had to be replaced twice already. It was so bad that thankfully Ford issued an extended warranty up to 10 years to cover this specifically. Car has only done 48,000km.

Friend had an Audi A3 and also had this same problem. Made noise so VW offered him a 70% discount on the repairs and a 2-year extension of the warranty.

Seems like both cars pretty worthless at this point. 2nd hand value in the toilet because of well-known problems with the gearbox.

more components means more problems, i rather stick to full dct than hybrid dct

he meant malaysia honda hybrid like jazz or city currently use DCT, not CVT in sole petrol engine

can elaborate more on the bike accident? is it the nc700? really just lost his life due to dct gearbox jammed/stuck?

jatco made got so unreliable meh?

non jatco cvt majority should be aisin from toyota right?

Many nissan cvt using jatco blew the gearbox under 100k km

i think low speed high load would deteriorate the clutchpack much faster (correct me if i'm wrong), in this scenario TCU might engage or slip the clutch often....

DCT driving is entirely differently to driving torque converter automatic, lifting foot off brake pedal to let the car creep would affect the clutch in the gearbox, i think the consensus is that foot is either on brake pedal or gas pedal, so it would not confuse the computer

some people give toyota so much shit over their preference of having conventional auto in their cars but i guess they know better

these perodua 4 speed automatic should be very reliable one, maybe even originated from toyota

maintenance should just be fluid change or maybe some small things else, i dunno

if that's really the case

they have lost reliability as well

Toyota gear box is best.

honda made their own, dont have any idea if they sell it to other manufacturers.

not sure abt the bike model, but i knw it is a honda bike &
mani vroom vroom american staffs said honda bike or car quality in US is bad
but still better than their local brand lol & told me it is an issue tat honda bike gearbox stuck 4th gear

i heard he drive the bike n gear stuck n he fly n struck his head
we paid a visit the same day in hospital;
tat time internal brain bleeding, he is in his sleep didn't wake up
heard tat he is awake earlier whn he is with his son
& just like tat 1 hour in the afternoon, he is announce dead
4th gear & honda so i remember till today

This post has been edited by junsheng: Feb 23 2019, 03:43 PM

is it because the clutch cant engage for some reason?
damn, electronic breakdown suddenly become very scary stuff

ya, google search revealed some similar issues after i tried

first time i heard of this though

i heard it is a well known gearbox problem tat get stuck

Yes not suitable, although there are tricks to reduce the wear under such conditions, but most common folks won't be bothered and ends up abusing it by driving it like a normal AT, causing premature wear and damage.

+1 to answer below.

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 23 2019, 04:12 PM

Their so called tests is meaningless, because in that 2 years they only tested it for 7k km.

But hopefully Honda hybrid owners would be lucky enough not to experience any problems.

I would be happy if they give P2 5 gear automatic, but 2019 still give us 4 gears

I’ve been using honda city hybrid for a year already. So far so good.

Here’s hoping it can last for 8 years or more.

I dont ricer at roads or creep during traffic jem.
I know how DCT behaves hence i drove accordingly

Cruising at typical 90-100km/h while achieving that average FC of 24-25km/l everyday.