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post Feb 20 2019, 12:07 PM, updated 7y ago

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Just to let you guys know that stomach ulcer can cause bleeding in stomach. You become low in Hemoglobin and die from it. You might thought you look pale due to food poisoning. But you actually continue to lose blood due to bleeding in stomach and die from it. You will probably die in sleep due to multiple organ shutdown.

So guys. If you look pale and weak, grab a Grab to hospital. Dont delay

Also to avoid stomach ulcer, eat right and eat regularly

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post Feb 20 2019, 12:07 PM

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sprained ankle also can die one ah
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post Feb 20 2019, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(IdiuU @ Feb 20 2019, 12:07 PM)
sprained ankle also can die one ah
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Any internal bleeding will die. If Hemoglobin low, you lost ability to blood clot and you continue to lose blood until die.
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post Feb 20 2019, 12:09 PM

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cheong also can die one
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post Feb 20 2019, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Boom Mortar @ Feb 20 2019, 12:08 PM)
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Actually it won't be funny if happen to your family.
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post Feb 20 2019, 12:17 PM

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what cause stomach ulcer?
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post Feb 20 2019, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(hollyweed @ Feb 20 2019, 12:10 PM)
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post Feb 20 2019, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Feb 20 2019, 12:17 PM)
what cause stomach ulcer?
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Bacteria and irregular eating time
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post Feb 20 2019, 12:30 PM

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breathing oxygen also can die la. just a matter of when.
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post Feb 20 2019, 12:32 PM

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Yup. Can google darren fletcher former manchester united footballer. Even with proper care and early diagnosis took him several years to recover and even then he was never back to his old self.

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post Feb 20 2019, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 12:29 PM)
Bacteria and irregular eating time
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Can alcohol or smoking contribute to stomach ulcer?
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post Feb 20 2019, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 12:09 PM)
Any internal bleeding will die. If Hemoglobin low, you lost ability to blood clot and you continue to lose blood until die.
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this one carries oxygen la
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post Feb 20 2019, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(MANUTD676767 @ Feb 20 2019, 12:46 PM)
Can alcohol or smoking contribute to stomach ulcer?
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post Feb 20 2019, 12:53 PM

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post Feb 20 2019, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Feb 20 2019, 12:49 PM)
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I heard stomach ulcer is more painful compare to Appendix.... Damnnn cannot imagine how the pain feels like bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(MANUTD676767 @ Feb 20 2019, 12:55 PM)
I heard stomach ulcer is more painful compare to Appendix.... Damnnn cannot imagine how the pain feels like bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif
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No clue exactly how painful. Grandma died from it, wasn't exactly the question I had in mind. But I do know the painkiller didn't work.

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post Feb 20 2019, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Feb 20 2019, 12:59 PM)
No clue exactly how painful. Grandma died from it, wasn't exactly the question I had in mind. But I do know the painkiller didn't work.
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Why grandma die from it? Late detection or progress to stomach cancer?
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post Feb 20 2019, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 02:29 PM)
Why grandma die from it? Late detection or progress to stomach cancer?
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she was already in hospital, doctors didn't realize it burst.
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post Feb 20 2019, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Feb 20 2019, 02:32 PM)
she was already in hospital, doctors didn't realize it burst.
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Before she go hospital, you guys didn't realize she getting pale and skinny for past few weeks?
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 02:44 PM)
Before she go hospital, you guys didn't realize she getting pale and skinny for past few weeks?
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she was in hospital for something else
the ulcer was a huge one, when it burst she only had an hour or so. I didn't even make it to the hospital on time (was around 1pm on a workday)
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 02:44 PM)
Before she go hospital, you guys didn't realize she getting pale and skinny for past few weeks?
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Perforation
A rarer complication of stomach ulcers is the lining of the stomach splitting open, known as perforation.

This can be very serious because it enables the bacteria that live in your stomach to escape and infect the lining of your abdomen (peritoneum). This is known as peritonitis.

In peritonitis, an infection can rapidly spread into the blood (sepsis) before spreading to other organs. This carries the risk of multiple organ failure and can be fatal if left untreated.

The most common symptom of peritonitis is sudden abdominal pain that gets steadily worse.


My entire family on that side, including myself, are highly susceptible to H Pylori. Even after treatment to get rid of it, it comes back after a while.
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post Feb 20 2019, 02:58 PM

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Not just look pale but also cold sweat as a symptom of low hemoglobin
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post Feb 20 2019, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Feb 20 2019, 02:53 PM)
My entire family on that side, including myself, are highly susceptible to H Pylori. Even after treatment to get rid of it, it comes back after a while.
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OMG I am sorry to hear that.
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post Feb 20 2019, 03:11 PM

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You will be in pain when the acid leak into your organ from the stomach. Most probably will be in ICU then. Yes, it can died.
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post Feb 20 2019, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Feb 20 2019, 02:32 PM)
she was already in hospital, doctors didn't realize it burst.
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Doctors are also Topkek or maybe it's really hard to identify the problem. Normally, doctor will know when it's already burst which is too late d. Hmmm
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QUOTE(Battlefield1942 @ Feb 20 2019, 04:34 PM)
You will be in pain when the acid leak into your organ from the stomach. Most probably will be in ICU then. Yes, it can died.
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Who experienced it before?
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post Feb 20 2019, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(MANUTD676767 @ Feb 20 2019, 04:39 PM)
Doctors are also Topkek or maybe it's really hard to identify the problem. Normally, doctor will know when it's already burst which is too late d. Hmmm
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Probably both. Doctors were a bit slow to respond. But since she was already quite weak, the only thing that could have been done was a lot more morphine than what was administered. She was 90+.
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post Feb 20 2019, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Feb 20 2019, 04:47 PM)
Probably both. Doctors were a bit slow to respond. But since she was already quite weak, the only thing that could have been done was a lot more morphine than what was administered. She was 90+.
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So currently your family have special diet to avoid stomach ulcer? Alkaline water from Panasonic good?

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post Feb 20 2019, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 06:27 PM)
So currently your family have special diet to avoid stomach ulcer? Alkaline water from Panasonic good?
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Just avoid spicy food, regular eating, avoid stress, no coffee etc

Once in a while they will go back for treatment, there are some medication for it.

Myself, I am pretty yolo lol. Will probably regret it later.

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When your stomach bleeding, you suppose making black color poo, isn't it? That's the syndrom.
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post Feb 20 2019, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(toughguy @ Feb 20 2019, 06:39 PM)
When your stomach bleeding, you suppose making black color poo, isn't it? That's the syndrom.
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Yes, that's the symptom. But sometimes old people don't tell you and they don't realise.

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post Feb 20 2019, 10:27 PM

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The main cause for this is the painkiller one take for leg pain or whatever pain. This pill numb and hide off the stomach pain till it become too serious.
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post Feb 20 2019, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Battlefield1942 @ Feb 20 2019, 10:27 PM)
The main cause for this is the painkiller one take for leg pain or whatever pain. This pill numb and hide off the stomach pain till it become too serious.
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That's why this is so dangerous because we thought its just stomach pain. Can die one meh? Yes, stomach pain can die.
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if stomach ulcer/bleeding stool become black u will noticed it...
i heard drink vitagen and yakult can help
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post Feb 20 2019, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(urnicksux2 @ Feb 20 2019, 10:42 PM)
if stomach ulcer/bleeding stool become black u will noticed it...
i heard drink vitagen and yakult can help
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Not if you notice it. I always thought black stool is ok.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 10:36 PM)
That's why this is so dangerous because we thought its just stomach pain. Can die one meh? Yes, stomach pain can die.
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Painkillers per say doesn't hide the gastric pain.
Prolonged usage of painkillers exacerbates the problems, it affects the barrier that is created to protect the stomach lining, hence predispose to the formation of gastric ulcers.


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QUOTE(vater @ Feb 20 2019, 10:53 PM)
Painkillers per say doesn't hide the gastric pain.
Prolonged usage of painkillers exacerbates the problems, it affects the barrier that is created to protect the stomach lining, hence predispose to the formation of gastric ulcers.
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Do you think drinking Alkaline water from Panasonic will avoid this problem?
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forrest_classification

If you have Forrest 1a you can die in an hour.
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post Feb 20 2019, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Feb 20 2019, 10:56 PM)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forrest_classification

If you have Forrest 1a you can die in an hour.
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So there's only 2 bleeding classification that is 1a and 1b. 1b is like dying slowly.
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post Feb 20 2019, 11:02 PM


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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 10:58 PM)
So there's only 2 bleeding classification that is 1a and 1b. 1b is like dying slowly.
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Dei. If you open the link you will see Forrest 1,2,3 la.

What la you.

We classify the ulcer itself la, not bleeding.

Either way, class 1 need immediate medical attention and emergency oesophageal gastroduodenoscopy to stop the bleeding.


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QUOTE(slimey @ Feb 20 2019, 11:02 PM)
Dei. If you open the link you will see Forrest 1,2,3 la.

What la you.

We classify the ulcer itself la, not bleeding.

Either way, class 1 need immediate medical attention and emergency oesophageal gastroduodenoscopy to stop the bleeding.
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I did open. The only classification for bleeding aka haemorrhage is 1a and 1b. My family member is haemorrhaging for many days. Luckily send to hospital. Else gone case.

She went to clinic and wasn't diagnose. After one day still pale and weak. Direct send to hospital.

Is drinking Alkaline water avoid this problem altogether?

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 12:07 PM)
Just to let you guys know that stomach ulcer can cause bleeding in stomach. You become low in Hemoglobin and die from it. You might thought you look pale due to food poisoning. But you continue to lose blood due to bleeding in stomach and die from it. You will probably die in sleep due to multiple organ shutdown.

So guys. If you look pale and weak, grab a Grab to hospital. Dont delay

Also to avoid stomach ulcer, eat right and eat regularly
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what colour is your stool?
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 11:04 PM)
I did open. The only classification for bleeding aka haemorrhage is 1a and 1b. My family member is haemorrhaging for many days. Luckily send to hospital. Else gone case.

She went to clinic and wasn't diagnose. After one day still pale and weak. Direct send to hospital.
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After stable need to find the cause of ulcer lo.
And most likely will be discharged in few days with antibiotics for h. Pylori and iron supplements.

Then an appointment in few months time to check full blood count and symptoms.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 11:04 PM)
I did open. The only classification for bleeding aka haemorrhage is 1a and 1b. My family member is haemorrhaging for many days. Luckily send to hospital. Else gone case.

She went to clinic and wasn't diagnose. After one day still pale and weak. Direct send to hospital.

Is drinking Alkaline water avoid this problem altogether?
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Facepalm on alkaline water.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 10:43 PM)
Not if you notice it. I always thought black stool is ok.
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black stool is not ok.
means blood in it.
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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Feb 20 2019, 11:08 PM)
black stool is not ok.
means blood in it.
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Or eating too much iron supplements.
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post Feb 20 2019, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Feb 20 2019, 11:07 PM)
what colour is your stool?
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Black if stomach bleeding

QUOTE(slimey @ Feb 20 2019, 11:07 PM)
After stable need to find the cause of ulcer lo.
And most likely will be discharged in few days with antibiotics for h. Pylori and iron supplements.

Then an appointment in few months time to check full blood count and symptoms.
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Any chance it will turn to stomach cancer?

QUOTE(slimey @ Feb 20 2019, 11:08 PM)
Facepalm on alkaline water.
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I thought Alkaline water can avoid acidic stomach 🤣
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 11:11 PM)
Black if stomach bleeding
Any chance it will turn to stomach cancer?
I thought Alkaline water can avoid acidic stomach 🤣
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Of course can turn into cancer.

Any cell that is repeatedly harmed and repaired can turn cancerous.

Fuk that shit snake oil alkaline water la.
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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Feb 20 2019, 11:08 PM)
black stool is not ok.
means blood in it.
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Well, if I am not a physician like slimey or knowledgeable person like you, I would not realise that.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 11:11 PM)
Black if stomach bleeding
Any chance it will turn to stomach cancer?
I thought Alkaline water can avoid acidic stomach 🤣
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prolonged ulcer will develop cancer.
just new and recover will be ok.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 10:54 PM)
Do you think drinking Alkaline water from Panasonic will avoid this problem?
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Unfortunately, I don't think so.
As we've learned in science and biology in school, our body has the ability to keep things in balance, which is called homeostasis.
For the stomach, it's natural environment is acidic (which helps in digestion of food / killing of bacteria/germs). Trying to "alkalize" it is pointless.

P.S. Same goes to oxygenated water which was the craze way back when, our stomach doesn't absorb oxygen. Just a scam in my opinion.

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QUOTE(slimey @ Feb 20 2019, 11:12 PM)
Of course can turn into cancer.

Any cell that is repeatedly harmed and repaired can turn cancerous.

Fuk that shit snake oil alkaline water la.
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So need to avoid ulcer again. Else it will turn into cancer?
If I have mouth ulcer repeatedly, I will get mouth cancer too? 😥

QUOTE(JustJoinedToday @ Feb 20 2019, 11:12 PM)
my late grandpa died due to stomach ulcer
he was 83 years old that time
Dr said too risky to undergo operation
that was 17 years ago
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Scary ya. Ulcer sound so benign. Yet so deadly.
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QUOTE(vater @ Feb 20 2019, 11:14 PM)
Unfortunately, I don't think so.
As we've learned in science and biology in school, our body has the ability to keep things in balance, which is called homeostasis.
For the stomach, it's natural environment is acidic (which helps in digestion of food / killing of bacteria/germs). Trying to "alkalize" it is pointless.

P.S. Same goes to oxygenated water which was the craze way back when, our stomach doesn't absorb oxygen. Just a scam in my opinion.
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Thanks bro.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 11:15 PM)
So need to avoid ulcer again. Else it will turn into cancer?
If I have mouth ulcer repeatedly, I will get mouth cancer too? 😥
Scary ya. Ulcer sound so benign. Yet so deadly.
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Yes. Ideally. That’s why they prescribe you with stuff like weeks of pantoprazole or other classes of acid reducing drug together with h pylori eradication therapy with hope to kill h pylori and allow time for ulcer to heal.
If same spot ulcer then higher chance lo.

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QUOTE(JustJoinedToday @ Feb 20 2019, 11:12 PM)
my late grandpa died due to stomach ulcer
he was 83 years old that time
Dr said too risky to undergo operation
that was 17 years ago
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Well..... they can’t scope if bp crashing and imminent cpr needed.

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 11:16 PM)
Thanks bro.
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Additional point, don't think only acid can do damage to the body.

Alkaline burns are worse compared to acid burns on your skin / eye. icon_idea.gif

People always think ACID = corrossive. True but other stuffs can be worse.
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QUOTE(vater @ Feb 20 2019, 11:20 PM)
Additional point, don't think only acid can do damage to the body.

Alkaline burns are worse compared to acid burns on your skin / eye.  icon_idea.gif

People always think ACID = corrossive. True but other stuffs can be worse.
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Wokey. By the way, is vater = Father? I am learning German now
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 20 2019, 11:22 PM)
Wokey. By the way, is vater = Father? I am learning German now
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Ohhh. Just a random name I put. Haha. Must be a coincidence.
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QUOTE(tatmeng @ Feb 20 2019, 12:53 PM)
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Yes. Imagine fap until kena psychogenic shock and die with your hand holding your didi. Malu sial
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QUOTE(slimey @ Feb 20 2019, 11:18 PM)
Yes. Ideally. That’s why they prescribe you with stuff like weeks of pantoprazole or other classes of acid reducing drug together with h pylori eradication therapy with hope to kill h pylori and allow time for ulcer to heal.
If same spot ulcer then higher chance lo.
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Nice. Thanks.

QUOTE(manypplwan @ Feb 20 2019, 11:25 PM)
Yes. Imagine fap until kena psychogenic shock and die with your hand holding your didi. Malu sial
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Like what happen to Robbin Williams?

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QUOTE(manypplwan @ Feb 20 2019, 11:25 PM)
Yes. Imagine fap until kena psychogenic shock and die with your hand holding your didi. Malu sial
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Lol.


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