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Which mirrorless is the better option?, Which mirrorless is the best?
TSdaryl020189
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Feb 7 2019, 04:00 PM, updated 6y ago
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Hi. Thought of upgrading my camera. Currently using Sony Rx-100. Thinking to go for mirrorless. Which model in terms of image quality, sharpness, low light and high iso is better?
Sony A6500 Fujifilm X-T100 Canon M50
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yang2910
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Feb 7 2019, 06:16 PM
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Fujifilm XT3 might be a very good option if you able to extend your budget. Or XT2. Much better than X-T100 and IMO have good image quality and best SOOC image. From your list I think A6500 should have the best image quality among them but A6500 is more for video production. Fujifilm XT3 is better choice if you shoot photos more than recording video.
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Icehart
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Feb 7 2019, 06:29 PM
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If based on your list A6500. But XT-100 is not a fair comparison. The XT-2 is a good value currently.
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TSdaryl020189
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Feb 7 2019, 07:52 PM
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Erm...is the Sony ISBS really useful ? Cause I notice Fuji prime lens all do not have OIS.
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yang2910
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Feb 7 2019, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(daryl020189 @ Feb 7 2019, 07:52 PM) Erm...is the Sony ISBS really useful ? Cause I notice Fuji prime lens all do not have OIS. Most of the Fuji prime don’t have stabilisation except 80mm macro but some Zoom like 18-55 and 10-24 have stabilisation. I mostly used Fuji prime myself and is very statisifed with the image produced. The SOOC jpeg images is just so nice! Stabilisation is a nice feature to have but does not make a big difference for photo taking, but makes a difference in video recording.
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TSdaryl020189
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Feb 7 2019, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ Feb 7 2019, 09:07 PM) Most of the Fuji prime don’t have stabilisation except 80mm macro but some Zoom like 18-55 and 10-24 have stabilisation. I mostly used Fuji prime myself and is very statisifed with the image produced. The SOOC jpeg images is just so nice! Stabilisation is a nice feature to have but does not make a big difference for photo taking, but makes a difference in video recording. So far I only notice within this budget only the Sony camera has in body stabilization. But downside no articulating screen for selfie or selfie. Lol... and is quite an old model...
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yang2910
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Feb 7 2019, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(daryl020189 @ Feb 7 2019, 11:08 PM) So far I only notice within this budget only the Sony camera has in body stabilization. But downside no articulating screen for selfie or selfie. Lol... and is quite an old model... If you getting a camera for photo shooting, I think stabilisation should not be the main factor of decision. It’s more for video production. That’s why I don’t recommend X-H1 over X-T3 although H1 have IBIS but the dynamic range of XT3 just overthrow the benefit of having IBIS. If IBIS is your main concern then I suppose A6500 will be a good choice. But it would be nice if you could state your usage of the camera too, it helps in recommendation of the right camera too.
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TSdaryl020189
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Feb 8 2019, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ Feb 7 2019, 11:48 PM) If you getting a camera for photo shooting, I think stabilisation should not be the main factor of decision. It’s more for video production. That’s why I don’t recommend X-H1 over X-T3 although H1 have IBIS but the dynamic range of XT3 just overthrow the benefit of having IBIS. If IBIS is your main concern then I suppose A6500 will be a good choice. But it would be nice if you could state your usage of the camera too, it helps in recommendation of the right camera too. Erm..I am more towards stills. Especially handheld and low lights
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sonycamera
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Feb 8 2019, 09:31 AM
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Getting Started
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Hi
I am also only looking to get a mirrorless camera with a budget of not more than RM4k.
I am very much on still pictures, mainly for portraits, street and travel purposes.
I have been eyeing Canon M50 but was also quite impressed with some reviews on Fuji camera
Could someone share some views.
daryl020189, sorry to 'tumpang' your thread.
Thank you.
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TSdaryl020189
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Feb 8 2019, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(sonycamera @ Feb 8 2019, 09:31 AM) Hi I am also only looking to get a mirrorless camera with a budget of not more than RM4k. I am very much on still pictures, mainly for portraits, street and travel purposes. I have been eyeing Canon M50 but was also quite impressed with some reviews on Fuji camera Could someone share some views. daryl020189, sorry to 'tumpang' your thread. Thank you. . Haha come join the fun...i have the x-t100..but thinking whether to switch as autofocus is abit slow...video is nt that good.4k only 15p which is unusable. But the stills are good and sharp.
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Aivihc
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Feb 8 2019, 09:58 AM
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If you can hold a little while, u can wait for the (if confirm) a7000
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sonycamera
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Feb 8 2019, 10:21 AM
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Getting Started
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Thanks, Aivihc
looking at A6500 pricing, A7000 will not likely to be within my budget.
Fuji X-T20 appears to be within RM3.5-4.5k depending the type of kit of lens. have been looking at some of the reviews.
Are Fuji manufactured outside Japan now?
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destfull
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Feb 8 2019, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ Feb 7 2019, 09:07 PM) Most of the Fuji prime don’t have stabilisation except 80mm macro but some Zoom like 18-55 and 10-24 have stabilisation. I mostly used Fuji prime myself and is very statisifed with the image produced. The SOOC jpeg images is just so nice! Stabilisation is a nice feature to have but does not make a big difference for photo taking, but makes a difference in video recording. The IBIS is really super useful when in low light, you had to step down shutter speed to until 1/3 - 0.5” hanheld. Don’t listen to those said stabilisation is not for photos. Obviously they didn’t do much low light shooting
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kingkingyyk
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Feb 8 2019, 10:50 AM
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10k Club
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ Feb 7 2019, 11:48 PM) If you getting a camera for photo shooting, I think stabilisation should not be the main factor of decision. It’s more for video production. That’s why I don’t recommend X-H1 over X-T3 although H1 have IBIS but the dynamic range of XT3 just overthrow the benefit of having IBIS. If IBIS is your main concern then I suppose A6500 will be a good choice. But it would be nice if you could state your usage of the camera too, it helps in recommendation of the right camera too. Having a big aperture lens without stabilization = zoom lens with stabilization. You will end up resort with higher shutter speed (hence higher ISO) in low light, which kills the benefit of having large aperture. QUOTE(daryl020189 @ Feb 8 2019, 09:50 AM) Haha come join the fun...i have the x-t100..but thinking whether to switch as autofocus is abit slow...video is nt that good.4k only 15p which is unusable. But the stills are good and sharp. Looks like your choice is only a6500 here. M50 4K is crippled as hell. Pixel binning+heavy crop aside, the dual pixel AF doesn't work in 4K. This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Feb 8 2019, 10:53 AM
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yang2910
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Feb 8 2019, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(daryl020189 @ Feb 7 2019, 11:08 PM) So far I only notice within this budget only the Sony camera has in body stabilization. But downside no articulating screen for selfie or selfie. Lol... and is quite an old model... Handheld Still subject under low light, I think you might benefit from having an IBIS in that case. QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Feb 8 2019, 10:50 AM) Having a big aperture lens without stabilization = zoom lens with stabilization. You will end up resort with higher shutter speed (hence higher ISO) in low light, which kills the benefit of having large aperture. Looks like your choice is only a6500 here. M50 4K is crippled as hell. Pixel binning+heavy crop aside, the dual pixel AF doesn't work in 4K. Having a large arperture prime with out stabilisation means you can compensate the lowlight and higher shutter speed with the large arperture, but zoom with stabilisation means you have to compensate the lowlight and the smaller arperture with low shutter speed, which is not really practical unless your subject is completely still. I shoot family and street more, so too low shutter speed will be some problem for me. This post has been edited by yang2910: Feb 8 2019, 12:57 PM
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TSdaryl020189
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Feb 8 2019, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ Feb 8 2019, 12:56 PM) Handheld Still subject under low light, I think you might benefit from having an IBIS in that case. Having a large arperture prime with out stabilisation means you can compensate the lowlight and higher shutter speed with the large arperture, but zoom with stabilisation means you have to compensate the lowlight and the smaller arperture with low shutter speed, which is not really practical unless your subject is completely still. I shoot family and street more, so too low shutter speed will be some problem for me. So which camera are u using ? Sony? I am more to jpeg cause I lazy to edit Raw . Always I transfer from camera to phone and upload. But i love the photo to be sharp even when zoom 100%. Guess is a habit
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kingkingyyk
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Feb 8 2019, 03:04 PM
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10k Club
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ Feb 8 2019, 12:56 PM) Having a large arperture prime with out stabilisation means you can compensate the lowlight and higher shutter speed with the large arperture, but zoom with stabilisation means you have to compensate the lowlight and the smaller arperture with low shutter speed, which is not really practical unless your subject is completely still. I shoot family and street more, so too low shutter speed will be some problem for me. Lowlight + moving subject = That's the sign that you need large sensor.
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yang2910
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Feb 8 2019, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Feb 8 2019, 03:04 PM) Lowlight + moving subject = That's the sign that you need large sensor. Been Eyeing on A7M3, but the Fuji colour and jpeg is just too hard to give up. That good jpeg processing just saves me a lot of time. QUOTE(daryl020189 @ Feb 8 2019, 01:07 PM) So which camera are u using ? Sony? I am more to jpeg cause I lazy to edit Raw . Always I transfer from camera to phone and upload. But i love the photo to be sharp even when zoom 100%. Guess is a habit Currently using Fujifilm XT2. I often does the same routine as you too! Import jpeg straight and edit in phone.
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TSdaryl020189
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Feb 9 2019, 06:57 PM
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What if I were to pick between X-T3 and Sony A7iii?
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Loseeker
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Feb 11 2019, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ Feb 7 2019, 11:48 PM) If you getting a camera for photo shooting, I think stabilisation should not be the main factor of decision. It’s more for video production. That’s why I don’t recommend X-H1 over X-T3 although H1 have IBIS but the dynamic range of XT3 just overthrow the benefit of having IBIS. If IBIS is your main concern then I suppose A6500 will be a good choice. But it would be nice if you could state your usage of the camera too, it helps in recommendation of the right camera too. After some critical shots blurred from handshake and watching this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lKV3SVfvFY , I have to disagree that IBIS is not the main factor of decision. Also don't forget the fact that XH1 is cheaper than the XT3 as of current pricing on shopee. I am yet to find out about the dynamic range advantage of XT3, but for me, getting a sharp focus is always more important than extracting a little more information from the shadow or the highlights. I guess to each his own.
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