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post Feb 2 2019, 04:37 PM, updated 7y ago

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I genuinely want to ask a question to my Muslims friends. Just got back from middle east and noticed no children there seem to wear tudung but in Malaysia a lot of little girls wear tudung. I asked one of my friends and he told me actually they only need to wear after puberty. Is this true?
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post Feb 2 2019, 04:39 PM

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post Feb 2 2019, 04:40 PM

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Yes

But melentur buluh biar drpd rebung
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post Feb 2 2019, 04:40 PM

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Yea lor but when they become adult terus kena burka and niqab. Ninja style.

At least malay muslim women only obligated to wear hijab in this country. Jeans/ shirts etc can still wear.

The rationale behind making super young girls wear hijab from that tender age is to make them used to it earlier on. The older they get when they first start the more constricting and uncomfortable it is.
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post Feb 2 2019, 04:41 PM

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i also have question

why in arab the tudung there is like dementor, but in lesser arab like iran its just shawl like datin wrap can show hair?

also which tudung is correct? is wear tudung n short sleeve shirt or tudung with tight t shirt is ok? if ok den why bother wear tudung big2?

not hot meh tudung? how u cope with the heat? hair not smells??

is tudung can choose wan wear anot? if must wear y queens in islam country no need wear? like msia queen or arab queen no need wear?

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post Feb 2 2019, 04:41 PM

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Yes true
But many young parent teach their kids or their kids are asking to wear the tudung
So far my 4 years old niece don’t like tudung
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post Feb 2 2019, 04:44 PM

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a number of my awek frenz dun actually want to wear but they have to wear it bcoz of pipul around them expect them to wear lulz

tudung is more of a cultural thing in malaysia

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post Feb 2 2019, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(AgogoLatoto @ Feb 2 2019, 04:41 PM)
i also have question

why in arab the tudung there is like dementor, but in lesser arab like iran its just shawl like datin wrap can show hair?

also which tudung is correct? is wear tudung n short sleeve shirt or tudung with tight t shirt is ok? if ok den why bother wear tudung big2?

not hot meh tudung? how u cope with the heat? hair not smells??

is tudung can choose wan wear anot? if must wear y queens in islam country no need wear? like msia queen or arab queen no need wear?
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1. Their own variations which are influenced by tribal culture and climate.

2. The correct "tudung" if you wanna be technical is a covering that covers the whole chest, labuh style and arms until the wrists. The Arabs are the strictest and go full ninja style where ankles aren't even shown. Anything worn that is tight or body hugging does not qualify and defeats the purpose of the hijab. In fact attractive makeup or perfume/scents is not even allowed if you follow the rules of hijab strictly.

Women are not supposed to exist in any discernible physical shape or form in a strict Islamic society. Hence the shapeless "trash bags" the Arabs make their women wear in public in Saudi Arabia for example.

3. The fabric that is used is airy and and has its own ventilation system in place.

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QUOTE(solarmystic @ Feb 2 2019, 04:50 PM)
3. The fabric that is used is airy and and has its own ventilation system in place.
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wdym gt ventilation system? under tudung gt aircond meh? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Feb 2 2019, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(butterkijen @ Feb 2 2019, 04:44 PM)
a number of my awek frenz dun actually want to wear but they have to wear it bcoz of pipul around them expect them to wear lulz

tudung is more of a cultural thing in malaysia
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Most of your awek frens maybe the liberal type. Many awek wear tudung but piap2 more than amoi lol (based on Tumblr reasearch).

In my personal view, I would say 50% of awek in Msia really want to wear tudung because of Islamic teaching, and another 50% maybe wear just to avoid criticism or just hypocrite.
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QUOTE(rd33 @ Feb 2 2019, 05:00 PM)
Most of your awek frens maybe the liberal type. Many awek wear tudung but piap2 more than amoi lol (based on Tumblr reasearch).

In my personal view, I would say 50% of awek in Msia really want to wear tudung because of Islamic teaching, and another 50% maybe wear just to avoid criticism or just hypocrite.
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post Feb 2 2019, 05:15 PM

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You know
Hair pulling is hurting

So we endup using tudung less pain. But it work
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post Feb 2 2019, 05:24 PM

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Because teaching them early is easier.
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post Feb 2 2019, 05:27 PM

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I also want to ask if it will cause brain damage to children due to too hot. Our country is hot country.
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QUOTE(rd33 @ Feb 2 2019, 05:00 PM)
Most of your awek frens maybe the liberal type. Many awek wear tudung but piap2 more than amoi lol (based on Tumblr reasearch).

In my personal view, I would say 50% of awek in Msia really want to wear tudung because of Islamic teaching, and another 50% maybe wear just to avoid criticism or just hypocrite.
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Kek.. U must be Professor im tumblr research
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QUOTE(AgogoLatoto @ Feb 2 2019, 04:41 PM)
i also have question

why in arab the tudung there is like dementor, but in lesser arab like iran its just shawl like datin wrap can show hair?

also which tudung is correct? is wear tudung n short sleeve shirt or tudung with tight t shirt is ok? if ok den why bother wear tudung big2?

not hot meh tudung? how u cope with the heat? hair not smells??

is tudung can choose wan wear anot? if must wear y queens in islam country no need wear? like msia queen or arab queen no need wear?
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They say hell fire is hotter. So up to you want hot now or burn later.
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post Feb 2 2019, 05:41 PM

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Because girls if free hair since young, most likely free hair when growing up. Very hard to suddenly make them wear tudung once they grow up. In fact they will color2 their hair rebonding or perm hair instead. That's why most religious moms train since young
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Gua yang pakai, ko yang panas
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post Feb 2 2019, 05:43 PM

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Thanks for all the answers but it doesn't explain why middle east children don't wear but Malaysian do?
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post Feb 2 2019, 05:45 PM

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Tudung in Malaysia is a UUUggeee business !

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QUOTE(jetblast @ Feb 2 2019, 05:43 PM)
Thanks for all the answers but it doesn't explain why middle east children don't wear but Malaysian do?
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even different middle east countries got different cultures and practices.
why you expect malayysia to be like middle east?
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I read in star comments section few years ago. Some lady scold agama ppl for trying to force her children to wear tudung. They will even sent imam to your house.
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QUOTE(jetblast @ Feb 2 2019, 05:43 PM)
Thanks for all the answers but it doesn't explain why middle east children don't wear but Malaysian do?
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Middle East all Muslim mah. Reach 16 years old every one left & right wears hijab already.

Malaysia mix race right? If 16 year old girl in Malaysia, you see your friend so pretty with rebonding hair, u also want right?
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QUOTE(jetblast @ Feb 2 2019, 05:43 PM)
Thanks for all the answers but it doesn't explain why middle east children don't wear but Malaysian do?
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After puberty, must wear. Malaysia deco a lot on tudung this and that. Fesyen. Islam guidelines after puberty woman only face and tapak tangan can show. Men from pusat to lutut must close up. Cloth must be longgar and not imitate our body shape. Like spandex see those mini me, or two great mountain.
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It is for teaching and conditioning them so when the time comes, they get used to it already.
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It doesn't mean if a Muslim country in Arab decides to go all naked means other Muslim country can follow.


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QUOTE(jetblast @ Feb 2 2019, 04:37 PM)
I genuinely want to ask a question to my Muslims friends.  Just got back from middle east and noticed no children there seem to wear tudung but in Malaysia a lot of little girls wear tudung. I asked one of my friends and he told me actually they only need to wear after puberty. Is this true?
Genuine answers please.
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Yes, true...

Before puberty, a Muslim no recorded sin yet.
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post Feb 2 2019, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(magnesium @ Feb 2 2019, 04:40 PM)
Yes

But melentur buluh biar drpd rebung
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post Feb 2 2019, 07:26 PM

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why some UAE women are more hnnnnggggh until can show cleavage?

are they more open than Malaysia?
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post Feb 3 2019, 03:15 PM

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As a Muslim man, I am sick of our obsession with the hijab

We must start addressing the real issue that has long been glaring at us: attitudes towards women.


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RO WASEEM

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When it comes to the hijab, everybody seems to be obsessed with it. More than an article of modesty, it serves as a symbol of oppression to some and a symbol of liberation to others. But, more peculiarly, the hijab is often used as a benchmark by conservative Muslims to judge the morality of a Muslim woman and her “Muslimness”.

Indeed, judging by the Islamic discourse that concerns Muslim women, one would assume that the primary religious duty of Muslim women is wearing the hijab.

The restriction of religion from an ethical guide to appearances (dress-codes, rituals) is a curious phenomenon; a virus that seems to have seeped its way into mainstream Muslim consciousness. Partly due to the spread of Wahhabism, a deeply conservative sect of Islam, our religious priorities seem to have shifted from spiritual transformation to pedantic details about rituals and dress codes. Thus, the fixation with the hijab, I believe, reflects the very cursory manner in which we approach Islam.


From certain imams insisting that earthquakes are caused by women not wearing a hijab to muftis excommunicating Muslim women who do not consider wearing the hijab as a religious duty, the intellectual level of discourse that surrounds Muslim women is excruciating, and is more or less concerned only with notions of modesty.

This gives a gloomy insight – the obsession with the hijab is, in fact, a form of sexual objectification. Objectification, after all, involves the lowering of a person to the status of an object. By reducing Muslim women to their bodies and pretending that modesty is their primary religious duty, we strip them off their personhood and rob them off their agency as human beings.

Take, for example, the analogies that are employed to convince Muslim women of the benefits of the hijab. The lollipop analogy is particularly popular among conservative Muslims on social media. Two lollipops are shown: a bare lollipop with a swarm of flies on it and a wrapped lollipop with flies moving away from it. The caption reads: “You cannot avoid them, but you can protect yourself. Your Creator knows what is better for you.”

Apart from the blatant objectification, this analogy has at its core a very troubling assumption. It is that Muslim women who do not wear a hijab deserve cat-calling and sexual harassment, as some sort of retributive divine law, taking away all responsibility from men to behave morally and guard their gaze (as mentioned in the Quran). Such attitudes contribute to a culture of victim-blaming with devastating consequences for the victims involved.


Furthermore, the analogy assumes that Muslim women who wear the hijab are not going to be sexually harassed. This naïve assumption shatters to pieces when confronted with evidence. According to a study carried out in Egypt, 72.5 per cent of the women who reported being sexually harassed were, in fact, wearing the hijab. And let’s not pretend that sexual harassment does not occur in countries like Iran where wearing the hijab is required by law.

“Growing up in a Muslim country where the hijab is not mandatory, I have always been told: the hijab is there to protect women from men’s desire, because our body is awra (intimate parts of the body that should be covered) that can spread fitna (chaos) among men,” says Sahar, a 26-year-old non-Iranian who has been studying in Tehran for a year. “But then I came to Iran, where hijab is mandatory, and I am still harassed in the streets. Men aggressively stare at me, talk to me, call me names. I feel naked, and worthless.”


Today’s world is in a state of emergency. With gnawing problems such as superstition, bigotry, sectarianism, and patriarchy in Muslim-majority states, we simply cannot afford to divert all our attention to the hijab and pedantic details of how to worship God “correctly”. If we are at all serious about preventing the so-called fitna, we must start addressing the real issue that has long been glaring at us: attitudes towards women.

Education, as always, is the key here. Not the hijab. Let’s start getting offended by expressions like “men are going to be men” because men are not monolithic sexual beasts who have no autonomy over their desires. Let’s not tie down a woman’s morality to her decision to wear the hijab. And let’s stop objectifying women and seeing them primarily as avenues for sex.


You would be amazed how far that takes us.

Ro Waseem is a liberal Muslim. He runs a weekly blog on Patheos, and tweets @Quranalyzeit.


https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/relig...F6TPtwV5fzn2R4M
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post Feb 3 2019, 03:23 PM

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Takut kena tuai, so pakai tudung la.
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here parents want to teach children bout wear tudung
so the kids get use to tudung
all of this based on parent whether middle east or bolehland
maybe u met those middle east no kesah punya
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wisdom of our forefathers.

we are a lil liberal compared to the middle east so have to start drilling non slutty behavior in gurs mind from young.
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QUOTE(jetblast @ Feb 2 2019, 04:37 PM)
I genuinely want to ask a question to my Muslims friends.  Just got back from middle east and noticed no children there seem to wear tudung but in Malaysia a lot of little girls wear tudung. I asked one of my friends and he told me actually they only need to wear after puberty. Is this true?
Genuine answers please.
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but most malay just want them to be familiarize with it

they sked later all want free hair

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