R32 is the best. Using it at my hall. Cooling is much faster. Dry mode at 25-26° oso cool enough

Brand i'm using : daikin. I ithink only daikin use r32 gas

gimik saja

junk article spewing marketing materials and hearsay without doing any testing and measurement for proof.
literally spam.



minus sine is loss.
how can hitachi lie like this?
to their credit, normies are dumb and they don't use that pic anymore.
but pretty sure acdc is in spm.

This post has been edited by shirohamada: Jan 31 2019, 01:07 AM

inverter

Sorry me no understand greek. England plis.

Love it whenever people say this.....lol

inverter slow to cool room but use less power for long usage

This post has been edited by Phoenix_KL: Jan 31 2019, 01:54 AM

Is this even a question?

This post has been edited by Doraku: Jan 31 2019, 02:34 AM

take tis misleading graph 4 example, the non inverter loss is actually misleading, it is a plus, a saving since it use less energy
lets compare a 1300 watt inverter & non inverter 1300 watt & same HP & same room size

- if u turn on inverter it is going to run at 1300 watt and once room temperature is set,
the aircon compressor is going 2 run at low speed using less energy to keep the temperature set,
assume it use 650 watt continuously to do tat, so the graph is correct

- for normal aircon same it will run at 1300 watt and once room temperature is set,
the compressor stop only the internal using fan is running which uses even less energy assume 50 watt, celling fan is 75 watt
so it use 50 watt continuously till the temperature increase till a point, whn temperature increase compressor run at 1300 watt again

so how does a inverter save moneh, whn the temperature keep fluctuating
like u hard core gaming inside the room or mining bitcoin or like a sohai keep walk in out
it save u moneh, since it just run at 650 watt constantly to keep the temperature
not like a normal aircon as whn it run at 1300 watt, the spike overhead cost will be incurred
but to say inverter will only run at 650 watt is also misleading
bcauz the compressor will rev up to max 1300 watt if the room temperature changes is high

why inverter does not save ur moneh but actually cost u more moneh,
whn u on during sleep, temperature will not be fluctuating so much
especially u set 25 degree or 26 degree where the difference with outside temperature is not much
whn the compressor idling it just use 50 watt to run the internal fan only
so whn u look at the chart the loss it is actually saving u moneh where during tis time inverter aircon is running at 650watt constant

so y will u choose inverter, comfort & if u on the aircon for long hours especially during the day
u choose non inverter only whn u on during hot day and for ur sleep only

n bery pro ppl do choose slightly bigger hp like 1.5hp where 1hp is sufficient whn buying non-inverter aircon 4 sleep onli
tis is bcauz on its wattage increase of 1hp to 1.5hp is bery little but the time taken to cold & circulate cold air is drastically decreased
making the compressor enter idle situation faster there4 saving moneh, but u have 2 compare spec & brand ady troublesome



This post has been edited by junsheng: Jan 31 2019, 03:54 AM

If switching from 1 hp non inveter to 1 hp inverter aircon, the piping connection to outside need to redo or can use existing piping without modifcation?

for my understanding r410a more higher pressure than r22 gas which r410 using synthetic oil r22 use mineral oil , which mean r410a above need thicker copper pipe which mean more expensive during installation ignore pcb blah technology those things same like other shiit

i wonder what is that extra core wire i thought all standard 1HP ac include inverter should be enough 1 life 1 natural and 1 earth since they are not something so BIG that need 2 phase or 3 phase electrical to run

most ac engineer once clean up they dont typical doing a vacum before gas release back to indoor unit which point less unless those really professional is another story but without a faulty AC where to business
im not AC service or engineer just understand some basic theory

basically yeah forgot return line or out line the thick one need thicker copper pipe if your existing AC are using R22 gas if your existing AC are r410 i belive there are no modification for the copper piping side
just blow out the existing from the pipe vacuum and install

i can say both inverter shit and not inverter shit using same 800w max
only different are both 1500cc N/A is like your car engine the higher rpm you use the more fuel you burn
inverter something like you driving your car maintain the rpm below 2k which you can go lebih jauh and fuel saving

non inverter will use more power consumption during kick in is like if your engine having problem you keep start eventually your battery go dead
but if you open your low light can maintain very long hour

or now days a lot modern cordless power tool some brush less some brush motor some dc motor , sure brush less power tool last longer than compare to brush motor brush motor when you press they are some much
sparkling happen on the armature back side those are power loss if im right LOL

conclusion the higher rpm compressor go the more power consumption inverter once reach optimum temp it will drop the compressor rpm like 1k or less to maintain your preference temp i assume max rpm 6k at 1k rpm only use 133watts but i have no idea per minute or per hour i fail on matt

actually when you purchase the AC inside there are warranty card and some random manual actually a lot , inside mention a lot of thing but most user they don't read , standard branded or popular AC out there compressor are 5 year warranty only the compressor 1st year only cover moving part like fan heat ex-changer or some people call outdoor coil , your indoor unit and the remaining part within 1 year any part faulty official technician come and replace totally FOC

after 2nd year if you compressor faulty totally cannot run not cold not an excuse wont be able to claim official 1 to 1 exchange compressor to you but not included labor , official roughly cost 1.2k 3rd party typical A/C guy cost 450

I just use normal. Cheap one I can get. Panasonic. Wanted Daikin but freaking expensive so not worth it

this is true actually
yeah installation are same only difference in copper piping for 1hp r410a ac material use thicker than what r22 needed since r410a gas higher pressure than r22
since is official requirement if fail during official technician verify they wont let you claim anything

If u on 24-26 in a room enclosed, then inverter. Slow to cool? Max it when turn on then adjust it to desired temperature.

Open area, 20° below then normal one enough

i hear many people said inverter save if use more than 8 hours. and if rosak throw throw.
bought my panasonic inverter 1.0HP still working fine until today. bought it in 2012 during my first baby born. its already almost 7 years. my baby born in march 2012.
electricity also cheap. hardly reach RM100 per month (during hot season) sometimes RM40-RM50 only (normal season). (this amount include with my other electric device, i got cockoo water filter, Sharp refrigerator, LG washing machine. i dont have Desktop Computer at home. only use laptop. my wife also use laptop only.

but yeah i regularly service my aircond myself. just clean the filter. the deep service dont know how.

but i hear samsung 8 pole inverter aircond much saving electricity. if my panasonic inverter rosak i want to try samsung 8-pole pulak, with smart wife features too.

This post has been edited by diadokmai: Jan 31 2019, 07:03 AM

Mak aku ada beli satu inverter for her room... Samsung brand i think...

Fucking piece of shit... Lambat gila nak sejuk.

Normal lagi bagus.

But could be also because that time inverter baru introduced so maybe nowadays inverter better... I dunno


But i think everything that is "eco friendly" = worst quality than normal un-eco friendly

This post has been edited by h4r8_kIlLeR: Jan 31 2019, 07:22 AM

Those who said “slow to cool” - I really don’t understand. I turn on mine like immediately I can feel cold already. My temp I set 27°C summore and in the afternoon. I’m the type takut hot wan

Yes pana inverter

This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 31 2019, 07:29 AM