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post Jan 20 2019, 04:13 PM, updated 7y ago

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How often do employers or recruiters request official academical transcripts? If they happen to request one to verify my CGPA/educational background check, is it appropriate to provide them with a copy of my official transcript or have my university send a sealed official transcript directly to my employer? Thanks for your insight in advance.
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post Jan 20 2019, 10:45 PM

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I did well in studies and usually provide my degree cert & transcript to impress my employers, plus additional evaluation reports from my previous employers and other professional certs. I attached the softcopies when writing in to apply.

Often, employers and recruiters felt impressed (literally, a "WOW!" from them). That's the sound effect and facial expression I wanted to see during interview. I always nailed the job that's offered to me, and rarely needed to job-hunt.

So, be a smart jobseeker. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Anonymouss07 @ Jan 20 2019, 04:13 PM)
How often do employers or recruiters request official academical transcripts? If they happen to request one to verify my CGPA/educational background check, is it appropriate to provide them with a copy of my official transcript or have my university send a sealed official transcript directly to my employer? Thanks for your insight in advance.
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in usual case, they will just want to verify whether the copies u are giving has an actual transcript or not.

when you are having some working experience, they will tend to just verify by looking at it and proceed with the actual interbiu.

in fresh grad hiring, maybe they will verify more with the uni, but usually not if not suspicious case.
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post Jan 21 2019, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Anonymouss07 @ Jan 20 2019, 04:13 PM)
How often do employers or recruiters request official academical transcripts? If they happen to request one to verify my CGPA/educational background check, is it appropriate to provide them with a copy of my official transcript or have my university send a sealed official transcript directly to my employer? Thanks for your insight in advance.
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I've always bring my original transcript and cert during my iv. isn't that a must bring item?
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post Jan 21 2019, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Jan 20 2019, 10:45 PM)
I did well in studies and usually provide my degree cert & transcript to impress my employers, plus additional evaluation reports from my previous employers and other professional certs. I attached the softcopies when writing in to apply.

Often, employers and recruiters felt impressed (literally, a "WOW!" from them). That's the sound effect and facial expression I wanted to see during interview. I always nailed the job that's offered to me, and rarely needed to job-hunt.

So, be a smart jobseeker. wink.gif
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Alright thanks smile.gif
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post Jan 21 2019, 06:36 PM

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Another enquiry..with vast majority MNCs' executing Background Checks via a 3rd party, how does education verification work for fresh grads?

Do they dig into CGPA of candidates from universities as well besides verifying institutional attendance and degree of applicants? just out of curiosity
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post Jan 21 2019, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(Anonymouss07 @ Jan 21 2019, 06:36 PM)
Another enquiry..with vast majority MNCs' executing Background Checks via a 3rd party, how does education verification work for fresh grads?

Do they dig into CGPA of candidates from universities as well besides verifying institutional attendance and degree of applicants? just out of curiosity
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Yup, can be done. All we need is just to call up the university records dept to verify for us, based on the info sent by applicants. That's for simple verification.
For a more thorough one, usually we email (from company's email address) to request from the university a full report.

So yeah, if you fake your CV or certs... you're gonna be blacklisted. & if you don't turn up for interviews, it'll be stored in our databases. Some uni graduates are notorious, so we straightaway blacklist them.

Sometimes we share the blacklist among ourselves, esp. if the company has subsidiaries or branch offices, or if we're in the same industry. So, don't think that bosses/HR don't know each other. If you apply the job via job search websites, we can secretly rate you as well. Other employers can see the ratings, but not jobseekers themselves. That's why jobseekers apply for so many jobs but no employer is interested in hiring them... coz the jobseeker's rating is poor.

Yeah, that's why some jobseekers find it hard to get jobs... coz of their own wrongdoings (didn't turn up for interview/ very rude/ fake info/ job hop too frequently etc). Don't assume employers are stupid. There are many ways to dig out info and throw away those rotten apples, and save other employers from headache.

So, don't take the risk and spoil your own rice bowl.

This post has been edited by Ralna: Jan 21 2019, 09:11 PM
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post Jan 21 2019, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Jan 20 2019, 10:45 PM)
I did well in studies and usually provide my degree cert & transcript to impress my employers, plus additional evaluation reports from my previous employers and other professional certs. I attached the softcopies when writing in to apply.

Often, employers and recruiters felt impressed (literally, a "WOW!" from them). That's the sound effect and facial expression I wanted to see during interview. I always nailed the job that's offered to me, and rarely needed to job-hunt.

So, be a smart jobseeker. wink.gif
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Hmmm, never thought of providing year-end evaluation reports...is that considered OK?
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post Jan 21 2019, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Jan 21 2019, 09:07 PM)
Yup, can be done. All we need is just to call up the university records dept to verify for us, based on the info sent by applicants. That's for simple verification.
For a more thorough one, usually we email (from company's email address) to request from the university a full report.

So yeah, if you fake your CV or certs... you're gonna be blacklisted. & if you don't turn up for interviews, it'll be stored in our databases. Some uni graduates are notorious, so we straightaway blacklist them.

Sometimes we share the blacklist among ourselves, esp. if the company has subsidiaries or branch offices, or if we're in the same industry. So, don't think that bosses/HR don't know each other. If you apply the job via job search websites, we can secretly rate you as well. Other employers can see the ratings, but not jobseekers themselves. That's why jobseekers apply for so many jobs but no employer is interested in hiring them... coz the jobseeker's rating is poor.

Yeah, that's why some jobseekers find it hard to get jobs... coz of their own wrongdoings (didn't turn up for interview/ very rude/ fake info/ job hop too frequently etc). Don't assume employers are stupid. There are many ways to dig out info and throw away those rotten apples, and save other employers from headache.

So, don't take the risk and spoil your own rice bowl.
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Agreed. I have personally called/emailed the university to check on an existing employee before. She lost her job a month later.

Don't play play.

This post has been edited by ViktorJ: Jan 21 2019, 11:17 PM
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post Jan 21 2019, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 21 2019, 10:28 PM)
Hmmm, never thought of providing year-end evaluation reports...is that considered OK?
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It's optional.

Basic documents:
- Résumé/CV
- Copy of degree cert

Optional documents:
- Academic transcript
- Postgraduate certs
- Professional certs
- Letter of recommendation
- Evaluation reports
- Customer testimonials
- Work samples/portfolio (writing, ppt, designs, videos, images etc)
- Photos of awards received or event participation

Recommendation:
Provide the 2 basic documents + any 3 optional documents

This post has been edited by Ralna: Jan 21 2019, 11:08 PM
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post Jan 22 2019, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Jan 21 2019, 09:07 PM)
Yup, can be done. All we need is just to call up the university records dept to verify for us, based on the info sent by applicants. That's for simple verification.
For a more thorough one, usually we email (from company's email address) to request from the university a full report.

So yeah, if you fake your CV or certs... you're gonna be blacklisted. & if you don't turn up for interviews, it'll be stored in our databases. Some uni graduates are notorious, so we straightaway blacklist them.

Sometimes we share the blacklist among ourselves, esp. if the company has subsidiaries or branch offices, or if we're in the same industry. So, don't think that bosses/HR don't know each other. If you apply the job via job search websites, we can secretly rate you as well. Other employers can see the ratings, but not jobseekers themselves. That's why jobseekers apply for so many jobs but no employer is interested in hiring them... coz the jobseeker's rating is poor.

Yeah, that's why some jobseekers find it hard to get jobs... coz of their own wrongdoings (didn't turn up for interview/ very rude/ fake info/ job hop too frequently etc). Don't assume employers are stupid. There are many ways to dig out info and throw away those rotten apples, and save other employers from headache.

So, don't take the risk and spoil your own rice bowl.
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Alright,thanks for your valuable insight. As of my understanding, universities aren't allowed to disclose cgpa and academic transcripts without a written consent from the student itself, do they?

Does signing a release consent form prior to background checks actually waives the privacy policy set by the university?

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post Jan 22 2019, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(Anonymouss07 @ Jan 22 2019, 12:07 AM)
Alright,thanks for your valuable insight. As of my understanding, universities aren't allowed to disclose cgpa and academic transcripts without a written consent from the student itself, do they?
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When I applied to Shell back in the old days, they contacted the university only to verify that I graduated on the date I stated, with the degree I stated. The universities I graduated from only provide verification to that level and it's a paid service. The academic transcript verification is another paid service on top of the degree verification biggrin.gif

I'm also older and so far I haven't brought copies of my cert etc. to my last 2-3 interviews that have led to an offer. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 22 2019, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(Anonymouss07 @ Jan 22 2019, 12:07 AM)
Alright,thanks for your valuable insight. As of my understanding, universities aren't allowed to disclose cgpa and academic transcripts without a written consent from the student itself, do they?

Does signing a release consent form prior to background checks actually waives the privacy policy set by the university?
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We are verifying info that comes from the applicant. It is different from requesting for info that we don't have. We only need Yes/No or True/False answers, most of the time.

For detailed check, we will request for consent first. But that's troublesome, so such applicants won't be shortlisted. Imagine when there are 500 applicants, then HR screen them and only need to shortlist 10 for interview... to fill just 1 position. Does it make sense for HR to go through all the troubles to verify info from fishy or incomplete applications? Nah, we skip them.

It is a norm that employers can conduct background checks on applicants, unless you specifically mention during application or over the phone that such background checks violate your rights. As you refuse the verification while other applicants accept it, employers shall then reserve the rights to deem your application as unverifiable, and therefore, void.

Lastly, fresh grads or young employees need to give references (at least two people) that HR can call up/email to conduct reference checks. So, that also indicates your consent, since you provided their contact details to HR. If no references are given, your chances of getting shortlisted will be... slim, or close to zero, especially for fresh grads or those with less than 2 years of experience.



This post has been edited by Ralna: Jan 22 2019, 12:46 AM
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post Jan 22 2019, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Jan 21 2019, 09:07 PM)
Yup, can be done. All we need is just to call up the university records dept to verify for us, based on the info sent by applicants. That's for simple verification.
For a more thorough one, usually we email (from company's email address) to request from the university a full report.

So yeah, if you fake your CV or certs... you're gonna be blacklisted. & if you don't turn up for interviews, it'll be stored in our databases. Some uni graduates are notorious, so we straightaway blacklist them.

Sometimes we share the blacklist among ourselves, esp. if the company has subsidiaries or branch offices, or if we're in the same industry. So, don't think that bosses/HR don't know each other. If you apply the job via job search websites, we can secretly rate you as well. Other employers can see the ratings, but not jobseekers themselves. That's why jobseekers apply for so many jobs but no employer is interested in hiring them... coz the jobseeker's rating is poor.

Yeah, that's why some jobseekers find it hard to get jobs... coz of their own wrongdoings (didn't turn up for interview/ very rude/ fake info/ job hop too frequently etc). Don't assume employers are stupid. There are many ways to dig out info and throw away those rotten apples, and save other employers from headache.

So, don't take the risk and spoil your own rice bowl.
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Do you mean even in jobstreets there's this rating on applicants to share among the employer? hmm.gif
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post Jan 22 2019, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 22 2019, 09:40 AM)
Do you mean even in jobstreets there's this rating on applicants to share among the employer? hmm.gif
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I'm just giving info in general, not pinpointing any websites or employers, or any candidates. If you're a responsible and accountable jobseeker, this is not a big concern.

Btw, for talents, their hiring process is slightly different. Most of the time, they are recommended to / headhunted by employers, so they didn't need to go through what most jobseekers go through: waiting and waiting, rejection after rejection, competition and frustration.





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post Jan 22 2019, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Jan 22 2019, 11:01 AM)
I'm just giving info in general, not pinpointing any websites or employers, or any candidates. If you're a responsible and accountable jobseeker, this is not a big concern.

Btw, for talents, their hiring process is slightly different. Most of the time, they are recommended to / headhunted by employers, so they didn't need to go through what most jobseekers go through: waiting and waiting, rejection after rejection, competition and frustration.
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Not a major concern but some co might drop a negative comment intentionally to seek revenge. Not that I am saying all the co. do that but it would be good to see what comment they left for us as well instead of putting it in employer viewing only. Else how would employees improve themselves? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 22 2019, 11:06 AM)
Not a major concern but some co might drop a negative comment intentionally to seek revenge. Not that I am saying all the co. do that but it would be good to see what comment they left for us as well instead of putting it in employer viewing only. Else how would employees improve themselves? hmm.gif
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Companies are not counselling or rehabilitation centres. The only comment you need to see is in your evaluation report. If everything is good, why worry? If everything is bad, then improve yourself... before you get warning letters, or subsequently, be dismissed.

Btw, don't employees seek revenge on companies as well, by posting hateful reviews online, anonymously? That does even more damage to business reputation. If companies want, they can investigate one by one to catch the culprits, and sue each of them, or get them to issue public apologies. However, most companies aren't doing that.

Why?

Companies are impersonal and not as vengeful, unlike employees, who are mostly emotional and act upon impulse. Companies accept reviews as reviews, whether positive or negative. However, can employees accept without getting offended or upset? They can't.

Imagine all 5 companies you've worked for rate you as 3 /10. How would that impact your level of self-confidence? Can you accuse them of being unfair or vengeful? Nah, that's the average rating given by 5 companies. Will you dare to apply for jobs again after you know your low rating? Nah, you'll most likely sink into sadness and anger.

Sometimes, it's better not to know so much. So, just focus on your evaluation report and KPI. That's more important.

This post has been edited by Ralna: Jan 22 2019, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(Ralna @ Jan 22 2019, 11:32 AM)
Companies are not counselling or rehabilitation centres. The only comment you need to see is in your evaluation report. If everything is good, why worry? If everything is bad, then improve yourself... before you get warning letters, or subsequently, be dismissed.

Btw, don't employees seek revenge on companies as well, by posting hateful reviews online, anonymously? That does even more damage to business reputation. If companies want, they can investigate one by one to catch the culprits, and sue each of them, or get them to issue public apologies. However, most companies aren't doing that.

Why?

Companies are impersonal and not as vengeful, unlike employees, who are mostly emotional and act upon impulse. Companies accept reviews as reviews, whether positive or negative. However, can employees accept without getting offended or upset? They can't.

Imagine all 5 companies you've worked for rate you as 3 /10. How would that impact your level of self-confidence? Can you accuse them of being unfair or vengeful? Nah, that's the average rating given by 5 companies. Will you dare to apply for jobs again after you know your low rating? Nah, you'll most likely sink into sadness and anger.

Sometimes, it's better not to know so much. So, just focus on your evaluation report and KPI. That's more important.
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I meant companies that I went for interview, not the companies that I worked with. Things should be both ways instead of one way. The companies can see how employees rate them, employees should be able to see how they were being rated as well.
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post Jan 22 2019, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 22 2019, 12:24 PM)
I meant companies that I went for interview, not the companies that I worked with. Things should be both ways instead of one way. The companies can see how employees rate them, employees should be able to see how they were being rated as well.
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I think you misunderstood my points. Please read my earlier reply, within the specified context. I was referring to problematic job seekers who didn't turn up for interview/ very rude/ fake info/ job hop too frequently etc. These are the rotten apples.

If you wanna know how well you perform during interviews, ask the interviewer yourself privately for detailed feedback. Such data are P&C and kept within company itself.
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QUOTE(Ralna @ Jan 22 2019, 12:36 AM)
We are verifying info that comes from the applicant. It is different from requesting for info that we don't have. We only need Yes/No or True/False answers, most of the time.

For detailed check, we will request for consent first. But that's troublesome, so such applicants won't be shortlisted. Imagine when there are 500 applicants, then HR screen them and only need to shortlist 10 for interview... to fill just 1 position. Does it make sense for HR to go through all the troubles to verify info from fishy or incomplete applications? Nah, we skip them.

It is a norm that employers can conduct background checks on applicants, unless you specifically mention during application or over the phone that such background checks violate your rights. As you refuse the verification while other applicants accept it, employers shall then reserve the rights to deem your application as unverifiable, and therefore, void.

Lastly, fresh grads or young employees need to give references (at least two people) that HR can call up/email to conduct reference checks. So, that also indicates your consent, since you provided their contact details to HR. If no references are given, your chances of getting shortlisted will be... slim, or close to zero, especially for fresh grads or those with less than 2 years of experience.
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thanks for the valuable info blush.gif thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Jan 21 2019, 11:08 PM)
It's optional.

Basic documents:
- Résumé/CV
- Copy of degree cert

Optional documents:
- Academic transcript
- Postgraduate certs
- Professional certs
- Letter of recommendation
- Evaluation reports
- Customer testimonials
- Work samples/portfolio (writing, ppt, designs, videos, images etc)
- Photos of awards received or event participation

Recommendation:
Provide the 2 basic documents + any 3 optional documents
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If I still dont get the official transcript and cert,can I bring study completion letter and previous result slip
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post Jan 11 2023, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Blackadder759 @ Jan 11 2023, 05:15 PM)
If I still dont get the official transcript and cert,can I bring study completion letter and previous result slip
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Can, as long as they are issued by the institution + original copies.

 

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