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TSjerm57
post Jan 19 2019, 08:37 PM, updated 6y ago

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Went to change my tires today and the workshop guy told me the lower arm bushing kong oredi. He recommend me to replace the whole lower arm at rm200+. When i asked why can't they just change the bushing, they said cuz need special equipment which costs extra. Add up with replacement bushing about the same price.

How accurate is this? Is there any workshop around PJ area that specialise in this? My car is Proton Saga FLX.
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post Jan 19 2019, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Jan 19 2019, 08:37 PM)
Went to change my tires today and the workshop guy told me the lower arm bushing kong oredi. He recommend me to replace the whole lower arm at rm200+. When i asked why can't they just change the bushing, they said cuz need special equipment which costs extra. Add up with replacement bushing about the same price.

How accurate is this? Is there any workshop around PJ area that specialise in this? My car is Proton Saga FLX.
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yes, kena install using hydraulic press. For proton it's easier (and almost as cheap) to just replace the whole lower arm
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post Jan 19 2019, 08:48 PM

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i dont think shop mechanic will help u change the bushing. is take times to do so....

replace with a new unit is faster.

some said replace bushing only wont last long.

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post Jan 19 2019, 08:52 PM

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Outside workshop can do it easily. Whether to just replace bush or replace whole arm depends. If 200 can get original lower arm, that's indeed better than just replace bush.
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post Jan 19 2019, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Jan 19 2019, 08:37 PM)
Went to change my tires today and the workshop guy told me the lower arm bushing kong oredi. He recommend me to replace the whole lower arm at rm200+. When i asked why can't they just change the bushing, they said cuz need special equipment which costs extra. Add up with replacement bushing about the same price.

How accurate is this? Is there any workshop around PJ area that specialise in this? My car is Proton Saga FLX.
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Lazy workshop. The shop can just go to a place that can do hydraulic press the bush and then install. Workshop no need to invest.
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post Jan 19 2019, 09:11 PM

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Anyone know if Proton HQ in PJ will be able to change just the bushing?
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post Jan 19 2019, 09:16 PM

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A lot of places don't have only bushes. Unless you are using poly bush. I changed mine. Not same car with your one. But there are plenty OE brands out there range from Rm1xx to Rm2xx per price whole lower arm. Workmanship add extra RM 40+-. But just so you know, it's better to change both L&R

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post Jan 20 2019, 01:09 AM

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Hydraulic press normally cost rm 30 to 50 each. Bushing normally cost 20 to 50 each depend on size.
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post Jan 20 2019, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(Jessieccy @ Jan 19 2019, 09:16 PM)
A lot of places don't have only bushes. Unless you are using poly bush. I changed mine. Not same car with your one. But there are plenty OE brands out there range from Rm1xx to Rm2xx per price whole lower arm. Workmanship add extra RM 40+-. But just so you know, it's better to change both L&R
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Any noticeable improvement using poly bush?
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post Jan 20 2019, 11:42 AM

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There are 2 proper equipments needed to 'efficiently' remove such bushes, either a shop hydraulic press or a bush remover set that's either the C-shaped or the single threaded rod model.

But for many under the tree mechanics, the most common method is to cut or burn thru the rubber portion then wack the inner brace out, which is very time and energy consuming, hence the higher service cost. And don't forget that there are 1 or 2 more bushes on that same arm which are probably due also. That's why they rather propose replacing the whole arm with a compatible unit.

That said, if only component cost is considered, just a brand new original bush is possibly 1/4 the cost of a whole original arm.
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post Jan 20 2019, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Kitty_catts @ Jan 20 2019, 08:59 AM)
Any noticeable improvement using poly bush?
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Never used it. I heard will affect my comfort, also need some maintenance if it start squeak. In the end I just replace the whole arm use back rubber bushings. Will last few years anyway.
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post Jan 20 2019, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(Jessieccy @ Jan 20 2019, 12:26 PM)
Never used it. I heard will affect my comfort, also need some maintenance if it start squeak. In the end I just replace the whole arm use back rubber bushings. Will last few years anyway.
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Oohh.. i just heard it affects comfort and handling. Didnt know about squeaking maintainance etc.
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post Jan 20 2019, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(Kitty_catts @ Jan 20 2019, 08:59 AM)
Any noticeable improvement using poly bush?
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It remove that rubbery feeling.
At a cost of comfort, prepare to feel every bumps.
Will squeak therefore prepare some spray grease to spray & pray for less squeak.

Alternative for between poly and rubber, is harden rubber.
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post Jan 20 2019, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(therain01 @ Jan 20 2019, 01:09 AM)
Hydraulic press normally cost rm 30 to 50 each. Bushing normally cost 20 to 50 each depend on size.
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Yup agree it’s cheaper too just buy the bush and go to a workshop with the presser. Mechanic charged me rm 10 for each bush that needed replacing by the presser . Cheaper then buying a howl lower arm. Cuz it’s the bush only that needs replacing. Metal arm still can last a long long long time as long as no physical damage.
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post Jan 20 2019, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Jan 20 2019, 01:37 PM)
Yup agree it’s cheaper too just buy the bush and go to a workshop with the presser. Mechanic charged me rm 10 for each bush that needed replacing by the presser . Cheaper then buying a howl lower arm. Cuz it’s the bush only that needs replacing. Metal arm still can last a long long long time as long as no physical damage.
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Better you give the location of the shop.

TS, anyway I dont think the shop is quoting you rm200 for original Proton arms. Go ask from spare part shop or online. Much cheaper there.
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post Jan 20 2019, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(bo093 @ Jan 20 2019, 12:49 PM)
It remove that rubbery feeling.
At a cost of comfort, prepare to feel every bumps.
Will squeak therefore prepare some spray grease to spray & pray for less squeak.

Alternative for between poly and rubber, is harden rubber.
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Which of your vehicle's bushes got swapped to PU? Different location, different impact
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post Jan 20 2019, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Jan 20 2019, 01:37 PM)
Yup agree it’s cheaper too just buy the bush and go to a workshop with the presser. Mechanic charged me rm 10 for each bush that needed replacing by the presser . Cheaper then buying a howl lower arm. Cuz it’s the bush only that needs replacing. Metal arm still can last a long long long time as long as no physical damage.
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Indeed rm10 is super cheap because most of the mechanic won't have the hydraulic pressure. Do share the shop if you don't mind, but I believe rm10 is special price for you.
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post Jan 20 2019, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(therain01 @ Jan 20 2019, 04:51 PM)
Indeed rm10 is super cheap because most of the mechanic won't have the hydraulic pressure. Do share the shop if you don't mind, but I believe rm10 is special price for you.
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Some with the press wont even want to do since there's always a risk of damaging the arm/bush if using incorrect collar
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post Jan 20 2019, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(BartS @ Jan 20 2019, 04:46 PM)
Which of your vehicle's bushes got swapped to PU? Different location, different impact
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Not mine vehicle, a friend of mine, lower arm and rear axle.
Mine only did rear engine mount to PU.
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post Jan 20 2019, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(BartS @ Jan 20 2019, 04:44 PM)
Better you give the location of the shop.

TS, anyway I dont think the shop is quoting you rm200 for original Proton arms. Go ask from spare part shop or online. Much cheaper there.
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The mechanic quote 2 prices, one for Proton part and one from OEM. Proton part is RM220 and OEM is RM180. Both inclusive workmanship.
My problem right now is finding a workshop that has the hydraulic press and can do the necessary change.

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