Anybody still owns one of these or has gotten one lately? am looking to get this as a mid life crisis car. Need some info on known issues, dos and dont's or any other guidance that anyone who has driven this can provide........

Are there any forums out there which I can get info on them?

This post has been edited by pillage2001: Jan 9 2019, 02:25 PM

I don't have a FD2R but I have a DC5R.

You can search for info on overseas Type-R forums or local FB pages, or even Youtube.

Mid life crisis should get 2 seater.

Plenty of it in mudah.. Starting from 100k for original FD2R and 60~80k for FD2 converted Type R engine..

Would have gotten a Porsche but I got a gf couple of years back so priorities changed.. lol

I saw a few on mudah but very hard to find a non modded one. Just wondering if there is closed forum somewhere which people go to.. might have better options there.

A nice car. But I think you have to pay the 80k cash for these cars.. which is kinda heavy.

Mid life crisis and choose a fd2r type r? Shouldn't u get an axia if encountered mid life crisis?

That's when I am done with life and decide to hog the right lane going at 60...

If below 10 years.. I reckon a loan can be had? If straight up cash.. Abit steep.. haih

Audi tt rs
👍👍

Mid life crisis should get 2 wheeler

Thought of it but......abit too much to risk given that I have relatives who died cause of it. Parents would definitely lose their minds....

1. Stock FD2R not easy to find
2. Under 10 years can loan, just don't expect 90%

The car you are interested is below 10 years? Anyway prepare a sum of money for these cars for repairs, they tend to be abusived instead of sedated driving.

Tips for you,
After the car is hot (maybe after 15 minutes of driving), revv the engine to 5k rpm a few times while looking at the exhaust when stationary. If white smoke/blue smoke comes out, the engine is about worn out (full overhaul required).
Also during first start, if there is a puff of smoke no matter how big, the valve seals are worn out (top overhaul required)

Don't really expect the car to be driven in a civilized manner but also don't expect the car to be driven as though the world is ending tomorrow. Just looking for balance.....

Yeah.....would be wary of those signs....Basically, I'm currently driving a 14 year old Accord as well with 310k km already and am looking to go slow with this car. Will reserve it for long distance driving as I commute between PG and KL pretty often........while the FD2R will be for zipping through short distance.....

As for the loan, anybody has any experience on getting a loan for a car beyond 10 years?

1. I know.....that's why am looking for a specialized forums to see if anybody there is selling.
2. Am okie to pay more for deposit.....

Owner who join forum/group won't stay stock/original. You should try your luck at branded cars dealer like BMW and so on.

Also, I don't think you're serious here. Did a quick search and it do appear https://www.carlist.my/used-cars/2008-honda...eat-car/2731295

what more info needed? this old and common car
got money can straight away buy.....plenty of seller in mudah, carlist, online..jsut pick choose
not sure what more can this forum add to ur purchase, other than dragging the conversation with more car option

Am looking for any feedback on this car. Ie: problems, any dos and don'ts, general feedback. I know Honda can be reliable but am sure there are some known kinks that they did not address or something.

Lol..... I don't have the means to maintain a Bimmer or Merz. Well, I do have the means but I don't want to....hence still looking at a Honda.

I did look on Mudah and carlist and saw 3 or 4 listings there but I am sure there are more elsewhere.

Anyhow.thanks for the suggestions.

Read my reply carefully, try to find it at those dealer. They accept trade in and resell, most of the car there are owned by rich owner who enjoy brands instead of mods. There are numbers of rare car remain stock and good condition under their basement for sell.

Also, original type R is consider quite rare in Malaysia because anyone can rebuild a normal fd to type R easily.

It seems your definition of abuse may differ from mine. Such cars were made to be "driven". Redlining them are NOT abusive. Abuse is when one don't get regular oil changes. Abuse is when one doesn't slow down on our infamous bad road surfaces. Abuse is when pumping in Ron 95 in them and still want to drive it hard. My cars are loved Torco, Millers, Motuls ... Shell V-Power Ron 97 Racing (Red) and Ron 100 when it was launched by Petron. My oils get changes every 4k kms due to my low mileage. And the group of FD2R owners I hand out with, shares the same passion in maintaining their cars in good running condition.

The audacity of someone asking if can tune the k20A to run on Ron 95 It came from Japan ready to run on Ron 100. If you can't even afford the fuel, WTF buy such a car in the first place. Was he expecting 20km/l?

So, perhaps you meant to say, they tend to be driven hard. Abuse would be an overstatement.

As for TS, coming from both versions of it, I can say that the car was flawless. I had the FL because I sold the pre-FL and then had realised I haven't gotten over my own mid-life crisis Both of them gave me no issues despite my mods on it, which includes 6 Pot brakes, racing cams, multiple dyno tunes/runs, Ohlins sussy, HKS intakes, Hasport engine mounts (vibrate like crazy on an already harsh stock sussy initially) .. I miss my FD2R more than my 2015 WRX STI which I sold last year. Still regret selling it ..

Just buy, if you want a FWD 4 door manual high strung car then probably the FD2R is second to none!

Just buy ts. But remember this car is a hot car if in a carpark. If u know what i mean

my gf is driving one
2 issues she have

ron 97- car was gift bought by her father, the day to day on her. quite painful.
hot car - be prepare to live in constant fear if traveling to unknown place. no such thing as park and leave it tepi jalan

This post has been edited by mabaw: Jan 10 2019, 01:22 PM

Well, I have been hunting for sporty cars too previously. And from what I have seen, there are some people who wants a sporty car but couldn't actually afford it.
They cannot afford to run good oils. To amplify the effect, they also can't afford to pay the high fuel consumption, hence rarely driving the car.
Bad oil + long non running hours would cause the car to deteriorate faster. And when they do drive it, they will drive it hard.
Bad oil while revving and racing the car is another abuse.

Anyway, the car I was looking at previously were old japanese cars with a sporty engine. Mainly:
Integra type R (K20A type R engine), Civic EK with B18C type R engines, Toyota altezza with 3SGE beams engine, an inspira with EVO X engine, and finally a nissan sentra with SR20VE 20V engine.

I viewed a few, almost all had some kind of trouble with the engine.

Thanks for the reply....you're right, I am prolly vague with my question when I asked if it was abused. LOL. I am sure people buy the FD2R to be driven like a person out of time . Totally have no issues with that and if they are not redlining the engine, they mind as well settle for a FD2. I've even okie if the previous owner service according to time with Honda oil....but just want to make sure that there's no lapse in periodic maintenance......Actually, I read a few places where people say Ron95 is okie for the engine but given the high compression ratio of the engine, I was wondering why people said it's okie........

I was looking on more if there are any known issues which Honda did not fix and also any habitual maintenance that you guys do. I am not looking to mod the car if I ever get it but to have it as a daily driver to work and what not.

Speaking of which. This question is moot but alot of people complained about the suspension too stiff, as you know, our msian roads are hopeless.....given your track record of cars owned, I am pretty sure you are used to the stiffness, I drive and Accord now, what do you think if I were to move to a FD2R? I had Koni Yellow with Eibach on my Accord before and it was abit too much too take. lol

This post has been edited by pillage2001: Jan 9 2019, 11:49 PM

Did she complain about the suspension being too stiff and needing a sports bra while driving?

Yup, do understand that the car is a hot item...is it still hot today? It will mostly be driven to familiar places. Would still have another car to drive if I need to go weird places.

I "love" my vehicles as well however my GT86 mainly runs on RON95

Whole car runs in Motul products and 300v.
Only recently changing engine oil to Penrite racing 0, but may go back Motul 300v or maybe downgrade to Penrite Enviro + because they discontinued 0w20 racing 0.

Engine Oil change interval at 8k km, will have UOA samples soon as well XD

FC wise, 6 to 8 km/l lol
Same with any RON fuel from 95 to 100 to VPR Red.

TO THAT BROTHER!

I started the loving the car scene in the early 90's when i was a student. The "bigger brothers" then had the civic EGs and the EFs even the EDs DXs blew our minds. They had this one liner to tell us "Nak main kereta jgn ckp harga minyak".

Cannot brain y u buy a high comp car and complain about pumping RON97 then go lower the compression. Want to hear the prang only isit? Go download youtube videos of vtec crossovers.

Yeah so buying a really good condition FD2R in Malaysia stock, it will be above rm110k. It's cos the owners know the value of how they take care of the car. You buy a cheaper modded version, be prepared to know the car pumps ron95 all the time and knocking all the way home.


This post has been edited by mojo1ne: Jan 10 2019, 06:01 AM

Wonder how u guys have patience with 6-8km/l car.

It will be very difficult to find a good condition one as most owners will not sell it, or expect top dollar for well looked after one. The ones at the used car lot are in terrible appalling condition that’s why they’re “ cheap “ .The FD2R common problems is the wear and tear parts, ball joints, suspension link Rubber bushings. Easily replaced and fixed. Won’t cost as much as a conti, replacing one part of a conti u can restore a Type R wear and tear items including labor 🤣. This car is fast becoming a collectors item and is still abundant in Malaysia
As We used to be one of the few countries to get it outside
Of japan new.

This post has been edited by Fenix98: Jan 10 2019, 09:11 AM

Bro, mid life crisis is not about lack of money rather realization of what little time we have left to tick the bucket list.

for the drive, it is not the same.

Also worry some with serious accident and damaged chassis. I known some used car dealer managed to buy totalled loss car from insurance company and fix it back for selling.

Have you considered an mx5? It's has all the appeal. Drop top, fun, speed, good looking and pretty civilised when needed. Any type r is intended to be enjoyed at insane dangerous speed and shrunken balls might speed up ED too lol.

LOL 😂 but it feels damn stable at insane speeds.

Actually I did. I have a friend who's pretty active in the Mx5 community and he was trying to talk me into it but no matter how hard I try....i think it as a girl's car... No offence to those who are driving mx5..... ahah...the new one is pretty nice though but it's way above what I would spend on a 2 door car.

It's a sad fact of life. Hence, I cannot comprehend when people ask about fuel consumption of a performance car. Like, hello?

Finding a good condition performance car is hard. They're not available in high nos for you to choose from. You just have to keep searching till you're in luck.

Ron 95 is ok, provided you don't rev it high AT ALL. Open the FD2R fuel lid, and it recommends RON 100. Even my 2015 WRX STI only says RON 98. Says a lot about the K20A requirement on the FD2R.

There were no recalls by Honda nor known issues as far as I know during the course of my ownership. Just expect wear and tears replacement.

Konis have been reknowned for their handling yet subtle stiffness. So, if you already consider it as too much, then you will have an even harder time with the FD2R. The rebound are not harsh like bone shattering, but you will be jumping around in your seat. To put it bluntly, my wife CANNOT type a message on the phone without errors when travelling on a straight stretch of road where there are slight unevenness which is very common in Klang Valley. Anyway, they were always my weekend cars as I prefer an auto during my commute to and from work. Only when I gatal, then I'll drive it to work.

GT86 at 6 to 8 km/l? Man, you memang pedal to the metal each time you drive. My FD2R with cams, gave me around 6-7 if I drive it hard constantly and max around 10 if I drive conservatively (which is rare)

I have heard and read about the awesome balance of the car. Your verdict?

When we buy such cars, we already expect it. Power and low fuel consumption cannot shake hands. If someone wants 15 km/l, don't play with cars. It's people who buy such cars, then only realise they can't afford the fuel that gets my

How old are you anyways? late 30s? or early 40s?

Evo 9

Wrx sti

9K screamer FD2R

Late 30s..what up ?

Ohlins suspension can fix the hardness problem... but 10k++++

Worth every penny in my book.

Fd2r no known problems bro. Just usual wear and tear. The problem is the stock suspension which is too hard
Which is track bias. Just change to ohlins... settled.

Oh.......shit.......wtf.......10k+++? Siao liao........

Just saw that the Ohlins cost 10k+++++........ lol......this is nuts...

dupe post

This post has been edited by pillage2001: Jan 10 2019, 04:31 PM

You can go for HKS type IV suspension around 8k

Nice balance also for road and track.but ohlins is better.

Or just go BC racing.... it’s okay la better then stock on road but don’t expect to keep up with the newer cars in corners.

Bc around 3k I believe

8 injectors bro what to do.
Once I even driven it dry and ended up towing to the closest petrol station
50 liters as per spec with absolutely NO reserve capacity.

It is as the reviews and videos and What not says.
And to an extent, even the exaggeration from MF Ghost (spiritual continuation of Initial D) also holds true.

It's a bit "wasted" on newbie drivers like myself, as it can perform incredibly well in the hands of capable drivers.
But numbers aside, it is simply an absolute bliss to drive a well balanced RWD car that can rival cars with far higher horsepower output especially in b roads/Touge.

Sepang track is a bit difficult with the long back and front straight, but that haven't stop very capable drivers from hitting Sub 2:30 or around that timing which is well within cars that easily have 2 to 3 times or even more horsepower than it's measly 150 to 180 whp 2 Liter NA.

Any decent/worthy modifications for these level of cars are that level of pricing.

Anything less, you're probably better off with stock original.

Notice the FWD in my statement, not for all layout. ☺️ Overall I'd personally pick the Evo 9 but the prices now is even more crazy and also more difficult to find

I truly believe the mods value is in proportion to the car that you want to mod. If one has no funds for quality mods, then they should just stay stock. A stock FD2R is awesome as it is. It's people like us who likes to waste our money that can't seem to stop

When we talk about mods, we're suppose to make it better. Fact is, it has to be safe as well. Quality brands comes with good R&D and also better construction process. Brand A and Brand B can get you a lower stance. But the ability to absorb the ever fluctuating road conditions is what makes the difference.

I personally object to performance parts "All Show And No Go" type of mods, unless your car is purely a show car.

I agree.....Intent was to ride stock actually. I had my fair share of horror stories with car mods because I went cheap before.....was poor after graduation...lol.... So i rather stay stock these days as I have too much things to deal with at work and rather have my stuffs stock beyond work. lol...

Thanks for all your feedback. Especially the part for the suspension experience with the wife...lol..not being able to complete a sentence while driving down a stretch of road is bad......how fast were you flying...lol

I always tell her the problem is because she holds phone with one hand, and type with another hand using index finger. Whereas I am a 2 handed typist using both thumbs, so I have better control.

Suffice to say, it doesn't necessarily end well for me speed kills but in a difference context

do you guys buy sports car (used) with cash?

Oh.....then it would be pretty hard to type la. lol but i hear ya. Lucky you're still here .LOL

Despite contrary believe, driving faster would actually stabilize the suspension.

This is because the FD2R and even GT86 tend to run on soft compression (and especially GT86, soft spring rates) with very high rebound.

So if you're going slow and the car constantly compressing and rebounding fighting for grip, it will be a very horrible ride quality/experience.

Once you actually load the suspension by going fast/applying throttle, then the suspension is only on its rebound phase as the compression is stopped via car load.

There are many reasons why people emphasized that these cars are many to drive fast, and this is pretty much one of those reasons.

Any comment about renault megane?

RM10K is not even the highest priced ones. Wait till you see MOTON brand one.

The Megane RS is also another excellent FWD performance car with even more power but just not as hardcore as the FD2R so easier to live with as a daily car. Actually the Golf GTI is also another good one, just unfortunately in Malaysia the manual version is not available.

Not as hardcore, you mean Megane is easier to be use as daily car?

For me Megane seem like an "easier" choice. Not be a hot car, for me is a huge relieve already, but need to be very patient in case you need any spare parts i guess.

Because the suspension is not as stiff as the FD2R hence more comfortable for daily drive.

Agree and got easy turbo power, BUT I know quite a few people who crashed their Megane when driving close or at the limit. Almost all was lift off over steer. Anyway maybe driver problem....

Tested the Renault Megane 250 twice before I decided on the FD2R facelift. As some say, it is another great FWD rocket. But one main reason I went back to FD2R was the heavier clutch on the Megane. If I already hated driving manual on weekdays to and from work, I would have hated driving the Megane even more.

The other reason, though not the primary reason is the crappy rear seat leg room. I am not very tall. When I configure the front seat to my ideal driving position and then I went to the back, the front of my feet touches the front seat and the back touches the rear. And my shoe size is only UK 8 Basically, your leg is f****d if you sit behind for long drive

FD2R is an ideal sub-RM200k 5-door NA rocket with excellent handling characteristics in stock form that's unmatched by any other in the same category, in my humble and honest opinion. Their track times at Sepang are testament to it.

Yes you're right, the rear space is more limited. Clutch I suppose is typical of European cars, rarely as light as Japanese cars.

welll due to the popularity and the easy to get my hands on a fd (the mass produced) .. u get mixed with the bunch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51D2_dJiNtI

It is good to know that you are realist to acknowledge that you are going through mid life crisis

Most people think, it is around 50 years of age.

Good luck finding your excitement

lol..by 50..i won't be that interested in cars anymore I reckon.....

What about me, too lazy to drive my weekend car but scared to let it go coz worry of dull life in future. Mid life crisis too?i'm mid 30s btw..

FD2r?

Close to stock E9, but driven the fd2r before, built for hardcore to sum it up

if midlife crisis, go for Porsche..start with a Cayman.. lol an 8 y/o would cost around the same

I wanted to. but I ended up with a gf so.....yeah.....

If you want to sell your E9 then let me know. 😉

Not that i'm considering any of it, just wanna hear an opinion from a pro.

I can drive manual, but driving auto will bring much ease of a driving for me.


Iinm megane was the fastest FWD at Nurburgring when it was launched.

Unlike FD2R, e9 price now increasing, you better prepare good buck for it ok

Yeah people open with crazy prices, but I noticed not many can sell too, hanging for months. I think I might as well go for A45 instead if crazy prices like that!

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Jan 15 2019, 11:45 PM

Have you been considering Fiesta ST and Peugeot 208GTi that kind? RON95 friendly