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PSA: How to make lipot
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TSempire23
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Jan 7 2019, 09:00 AM, updated 5y ago
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Team Island Hopper
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Don't know why so many ppl PMS today, so I bagi mani horidei to bora bora all around.
But here's a general guide to reporting because I'm sick of some of you idiots out there abusing the button.
1) JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE DISAGREES WITH YOU DOESN'T MAKE THAT GROUNDS FOR A REPORT - Eg; The STPM thread. Seriously TS really hati kaca one......
2) PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND SARCASM - I think this is self-explanatory but some people are dense.
3) POLITICAL PARTIES AND LEADERS ARE NOT MAGICALLY EXEMPT FROM CRITICISM - This one I really don't get, be it BN/PH/......genuine criticism of a public figure isn't against the law, just keep it within the bounds of taste.
4) DEFAMATION IS CLAIMED BY THE DEFAMED PARTY - Seriously, people keep reporting threads saying defamation....are you the one being defamed? If not....don't click that button.
5) ONE POST IS FUNNY, 100 OF THE SAME THING IS SPAM - I'm fairly tolerant to people giving each other shit, it's after all a public forum, but if you keep posting the same shit over and over and over again across multiple threads. It gets old.
6) DUN JUST CLICK LIPOT! PROVIDE DETAILS - 90 percent of the time, the reporter magically assumes us mods understand the context. We don't. So remember to provide as much relevant details as possible and it contravenes forum rules.
Also if you're curious, we can talk about how I generally figure out how much holiday to give when someone does something wrong.
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How does I decideds to unleash ban?!
A lot of people as me how a mod decides on a ban a duration and so on, so here's my list, it isn't exhaustive but it includes the list of my reasons and remember that /k/ has multiple mods and admins that take care of the reports, not just myself.
1) The infringement itself - This is obvious, some actions are worse than others. This one is pretty self-explanatory.
2) The number of complaints, from whom and the description - If there's one random report with no description from a newbie who is obviously oversensitive, it's likely to get discarded. Serial reporters usually get their reports thrown into the bin (See real law: Vexatious litigation/Frivolous Reporting). If there are like 10 reports on the same post, usually it shows something very bad has been posted, so I pay a lot more attention.
3) The character of user / history - If you have a really bad history of posts, prior suspensions, detected dupes, a long list of admin notes and so on, it makes us think you're a bad person, and I see this as a continuation of that. I consider this to be prime source of what a person has posted be genuinely punishable or if it's just a mistake or aberration on their part. eg; If you're usually good and post something bad, I'll let you off with a warning, if you oredi 3 suspensions under your belt and got dupe, I'll give one week. 4) Thread context - This is harder and more subjective, we rely on report details to understand the context and make a decision, but given the number of reports I try to do this as efficiently as possible.
5) Situational context - Easier to read, this is for events like mass-spam or string-spam, to keep things under control we apply a blanket ban and do so quickly to keep things under control so the forum experience is maintained for the majority of people. This also applies to forum specific context.
This post has been edited by empire23: Apr 27 2019, 11:26 AM
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TSempire23
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Jan 7 2019, 10:06 AM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(HyourinMaru @ Jan 7 2019, 09:21 AM) No. 6 "Description" should be made mandatory instead of optional then. No fill in = can't report/report fail That makes a lot of sense. I'll bring it up with the admin. QUOTE(munak991 @ Jan 7 2019, 09:40 AM) I got suggestion, seems report button make Mod life difficult. Why not put Like and Dislike button? If a post gets >50 dislike, mod go check that dislike post lo Not even post, even thread comes with like and dislike button We tried implementing the post voting system a few years back. Didn't work very well so Wkkay removed it. QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Jan 7 2019, 09:49 AM) Easily abused. Pretty sure all of wannie's judehow's ikankering's threads will be downvoted True. Also having a reporting systems allows us to nip things in the bud early on. As long as a decent report is made of course. QUOTE(8cr13mov @ Jan 7 2019, 09:53 AM) how many people are actually banned from dgrebel threads lol 4 lol. One guy with a bad record got a month.
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TSempire23
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Jan 7 2019, 10:18 AM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Jan 7 2019, 10:03 AM) If let say I open a thread ask about furniture items Then somebody derail my thread, say I love Fuzzy and have some kind of relationship with him. Does this contravene the rules? Because in the end my thread kena sabotaged, and I get no information about furniture items. It doesn't contravene the rules, but we tend to purge threads that we feel may get out of hand. But if there's critical info you need from the thread, you can PM any of the mods and we'll be happy to help you get it.
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TSempire23
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Jan 7 2019, 10:27 AM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Jan 7 2019, 10:22 AM) Like if I ask where to get blue plastic tarpaulin ? You know where to find them? If this happens in Serious K, can it be contravene the rules? No. I mean if you ask for information you may have needed inside the thread, we can fetch it even after its been nuked. Otherwise you're more than welcome to start another thread. This post has been edited by empire23: Jan 7 2019, 10:29 AM
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TSempire23
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Jan 7 2019, 04:52 PM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(8cr13mov @ Jan 7 2019, 04:23 PM) it really was entertaining to see hidan broke down and just started to curse at him lol Now he can also enjoy breakdown in bora bora lol
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TSempire23
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Jan 8 2019, 05:14 AM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(Lampazhi @ Jan 7 2019, 09:15 PM) Can send this guy to bora2 too or not? Farking annoying to the max, today alone open 8 sampah tered already https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...ult_type=topicsHis tread is sampah, agreed. But that's not really spam level in my opinion. Much like how being stupid is frowned upon, but isn't a crime. QUOTE(Doomsday @ Jan 7 2019, 10:49 PM) kasi more than 1 month jer for those nonsense reply... da heck, even some sarcasm with no religion pun intended pun kena report. Alot butthurt living in this section  If trawling through a bajilion reports, here's my conclusions If Malays are insulted by something, the Chinese will come in and say easily butthurt If Chinese are insulted by something, the Malays will come in and say easily butthurt If Indians are insulted by something, both Malay and Cainis will come in and say easily butthurt (I kesian them because they seem to be the worst treated sometimes) All races, when it's not their race/religion will say "Eh joke only lah, why so easy triggered princess", the same people when someone say something against their race will spam the report button like no tomorrow.
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TSempire23
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Jan 14 2019, 10:20 AM
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Team Island Hopper
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PSA UPDATE : Judehow annoyed me enough, so he gets a holiday.
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TSempire23
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Jan 14 2019, 12:39 PM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(Lampazhi @ Jan 14 2019, 12:20 PM) Hooray!!! What take u so long time to do this? Bora until when?  I give people chance lah. You think I so jahat meh every day think of wan give out suspensions meh? 1 week enough lah to insaf.
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TSempire23
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Jan 14 2019, 07:41 PM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(Lampazhi @ Jan 14 2019, 12:44 PM) Kind enough liao. He should kena since 2016.. Also can merge all food tered or not? Hamkaling like Lyu eat breakfast, lunch, dinner, supper need to open 1 tered each day.. KNN annoying.. QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jan 14 2019, 01:24 PM) i support this :thumbsup: QUOTE(DuitNow @ Jan 14 2019, 07:28 PM) Haih I think I’ll just PM him and ask reduce makan threads instead of gip horidei. Got medicals to do, a few interviews and a few offers to consider the next 2 weeks so I won’t have much time to clean up around here.
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TSempire23
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Jan 21 2019, 11:30 AM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Jan 21 2019, 11:08 AM) My years ago I create new dupe because I want a new nickname, that's it. But was immediately muted after few minutes. Open a thread in Help desk to explain, but was ignored. So here I am sticking with my first account. If you want a new nick, speak to the admins, they sometimes but very rarely take requests. But yeah, we generally do not talk about the mute function.
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TSempire23
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Jan 29 2019, 08:06 PM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Jan 29 2019, 07:39 PM) Is the use of obscene language or curse words in a post a lipot-able offense? Look, as long as it isn't excessive, it's fine lah, I mean we aren't prudes. Here's an example Generally acceptable; QUOTE Wahlau, where got people so f**king stupid haha! Unacceptable; QUOTE ***k you mother***ker, you go suck d**ks you dips**t! I personally follow the ICQ rule; 1) Intent - What is the obvious intent, it is to flame/troll/demean? 2) Context - What's the context? Calling someone farkin stupid in an informal thread is different to a formal one in say the serious section 3) Quantity/Quality - What's the quantity? Is it like 1 swear word out of 300 or 1 out of 10? Big diff.
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TSempire23
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Feb 5 2019, 09:40 AM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(Daylight2018 @ Feb 5 2019, 09:00 AM) Yaka? Reported fantasia69 digusting avatar of the girl with braces wih pubic hair You nvr delete? We found it to be acceptable and within the bounds of taste.
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TSempire23
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Feb 6 2019, 09:08 PM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(hirano @ Feb 6 2019, 06:49 PM) empire23 pls explain why achik gets banned every time? His dupes last year were harmless (mostly on cheese, cookies, food). Is it true certain mods got personal grudge on him? I think it’s because after a while when provoked he’ll talk about disgusting stuff in graphic detail. Someone will report and then action taken because when he goes “I luv it up the arse” mode, he tends to go overboard. No, we mostly do not care or hold any grudges. I’m too old to hold grudges on an Internet forum. If someone wants to take it up with me in real life, they’re welcome to do so.
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TSempire23
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Feb 14 2019, 06:51 PM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(nuansana @ Feb 13 2019, 11:34 PM) my account was permanently banned because i reported for fanboyism. if fanboyism is allowed here then i am guilty. pls help. everytime i create new account people will then think im a dupe. its a catch 22 situation. pls help solve this. i have been here since 2003, but many people disrespect me thinking im just another dupe. If you have a really good care I suggest emailing the admin for a review. We do occasionally unperma people if they have compelling reasons. Either way sorry gais for lack of modding. Just started work in a new place and had to move 5000km lol
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TSempire23
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Mar 19 2019, 11:40 AM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Mar 16 2019, 09:35 PM) +1 empire23May I suggest that this forum should implement 2FA verification system using local hp number, just like HWZ SG forum https://secureforums.hardwarezone.com.sg/re...php?do=registerdue to this issue https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...51056&hl=gobindCommunications and Multimedia Minister Gobind Singh Deo maintained today his call for local websites including news portals to self-regulate and have moderators for their comments section.
Gobind reminded Malaysians that freedom must be used responsibly and while he and Pakatan Harapan (PH) support free speech, any discussions on social media must not be abused to the extent they violate laws and upset others.Se7en has confirmed he's working on 2FA. But he needs time to implement it.
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TSempire23
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Apr 27 2019, 11:26 AM
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Team Island Hopper
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How does I decideds to unleash ban?!
A lot of people as me how a mod decides on a ban a duration and so on, so here's my list, it isn't exhaustive but it includes the list of my reasons and remember that /k/ has multiple mods and admins that take care of the reports, not just myself.
1) The infringement itself - This is obvious, some actions are worse than others. This one is pretty self-explanatory.
2) The number of complaints, from whom and the description - If there's one random report with no description from a newbie who is obviously oversensitive, it's likely to get discarded. Serial reporters usually get their reports thrown into the bin (See real law: Vexatious litigation/Frivolous Reporting). If there are like 10 reports on the same post, usually it shows something very bad has been posted, so I pay a lot more attention.
3) The character of user / history - If you have a really bad history of posts, prior suspensions, detected dupes, a long list of admin notes and so on, it makes us think you're a bad person, and I see this as a continuation of that. I consider this to be prime source of what a person has posted be genuinely punishable or if it's just a mistake or aberration on their part. eg; If you're usually good and post something bad, I'll let you off with a warning, if you oredi 3 suspensions under your belt and got dupe, I'll give one week.
4) Thread context - This is harder and more subjective, we rely on report details to understand the context and make a decision, but given the number of reports I try to do this as efficiently as possible.
5) Situational context - Easier to read, this is for events like mass-spam or string-spam, to keep things under control we apply a blanket ban and do so quickly to keep things under control so the forum experience is maintained for the majority of people. This also applies to forum specific context.
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TSempire23
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Apr 27 2019, 04:26 PM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(TheEvilMan @ Apr 27 2019, 01:59 PM) i got warned even when empire told me it's fine  Well, we were getting too many reports and the powers that were above me were annoyed as well. Watodo.
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TSempire23
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May 5 2019, 05:11 PM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ May 5 2019, 12:44 PM) The admins got annoyed as heck at his full caps. I found it tolerable lol but then they outrank me lol
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TSempire23
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Aug 15 2019, 10:34 AM
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Team Island Hopper
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I think I gave a record amount of permanent bans today.
Actually most of the APs are old members with many stars and dupe accounts. Not really surprising to be honest as some want to keep their old accounts "clean" but nonetheless, while we usually don't go that far for most posts, the mod team will start permabanning original accounts as well.
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TSempire23
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Oct 13 2020, 03:36 PM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(tahfeikei @ Oct 13 2020, 02:46 PM) todei so many anwar / ku li/ dap tereds in /k--13/10/20 not considered politics? please explain criteria Someone has to report it lahhhh.... You think all the mod team do is monitor forum meh?
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