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Buying Advice Canon EOS 350D and Nikon D40X, Which one is better

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nairud
post Jun 12 2007, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Jun 12 2007, 12:23 PM)
Both also got pros and cons ler...

Technology wise ler, i am sure D40 will do better than 350D...
But Focus Points wise ler, 350D definately dapaoed D40... (7FP vs 3FP)

Buy what you need and what u want...
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aside from your 7FP vs 3FP which you have been emphasizing.
Supporting AF on both EF and EF-S lens vs AFS only
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post Jun 12 2007, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(nairud @ Jun 12 2007, 01:47 PM)
aside from your 7FP vs 3FP which you have been emphasizing.
Supporting AF on both EF and EF-S lens vs AFS only
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is true...

for ur info:
canon very less EF-S lenses.
nikon a lot of AF-S lenses.

D40 not a bad option, the only things i don't like is the Focus Points.
350D ler, a bit old la... coz 400D will be better choice... (technology wise)

for me, if only this 2 bodies let me choose, i definately will go for 350D... Focus Points count. tongue.gif
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post Jun 12 2007, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(nairud @ Jun 12 2007, 01:47 PM)
aside from your 7FP vs 3FP which you have been emphasizing.
Supporting AF on both EF and EF-S lens vs AFS only
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just get AF-S lenses. Aplenty from Nikkor nod.gif
dont think he will be buying lots of lenses with either bodies anyway
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post Jun 12 2007, 02:43 PM

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thanks for all suggestion .................

haha......... may i know what is the function of the AF motor?????
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post Jun 12 2007, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(jacksontham @ Jun 12 2007, 02:43 PM)
thanks for all suggestion .................

haha......... may i know what is the function of the AF motor?????
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to do AF icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 12 2007, 10:36 PM

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dont know leh ................
both also good ................. i dont know want to choose which want ~~~~~~~ haiz.................see the price then just decide lah ..................

thanks for all ppl ..........
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post Jun 12 2007, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(jacksontham @ Jun 12 2007, 10:36 PM)
dont know leh ................
both also good ................. i dont know want to choose which want ~~~~~~~ haiz.................see the price then just decide lah ..................

thanks for all ppl ..........
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Get the 350d lar......
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post Jun 13 2007, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jun 12 2007, 10:51 PM)
Get the 350d lar......
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i also think like that .........because canon got more lenses to choose~~~~~

but i go to see the spec of the D40X...........that is not bad what ~~~~ just the focus point is less ~~~~ then there also got write got AF function leh~~~~ y ur said dont have the AF function????

got a little bit blur rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Jun 13 2007, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(jacksontham @ Jun 13 2007, 01:27 AM)
because canon got more lenses to choose~~~~~


why do you say that?
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QUOTE(jacksontham @ Jun 13 2007, 01:27 AM)
i also think like that .........because canon got more lenses to choose~~~~~
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i dont think you will go for that many lenses canon is offering as opposed to non AF-S nikkors.
when you do, neither body will be you main body at that time icon_idea.gif

so get D40X for the awb n "specs". the colour is rclxms.gif
no need to worry about focus points at this stage 1st
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post Jun 13 2007, 06:08 PM

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haha............. but my photogaphy teacher also advice me to buy canon leh~~~~ because the ppl around me got many using canon and he said SLR's lenses also can use in DSLR..............so is better lah ~~~~~ and he said the AF motor is use for the focus speed .........so if got is better lah ~~~~~~~~
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post Jun 13 2007, 07:28 PM

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if people around you use canon, then its better u also use canon. can learn together, can share lens.
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post Jun 13 2007, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(jacksontham @ Jun 13 2007, 06:08 PM)
haha............. but my photogaphy teacher also advice me to buy canon leh~~~~ because the ppl around me got many using canon and he said SLR's lenses also can use in DSLR..............so is better lah ~~~~~ and he said the AF motor is use for the focus speed .........so if got is better lah ~~~~~~~~
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do make sure your photography teacher paints you a more complete picture.

when people around you use X brand, you get to share lens. that's nice.

people tend to preach that using X brand is good cos X brand has lotsa lens. that seems OH SO NICE, but what they usually don't tell you is that

1. you are not likely to own more than 5 lens.
2. even if you do, you're still limited by your $$$$

regardless of what brand you get, there WILL be lens for them. even if you get a not-so-widely-used brands in Malaysia like Pentax, it doesn't mean you made a bad choice. smile.gif it's just that going for Nikon or Canon usually means you get higher chance of getting used lens.
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post Jun 13 2007, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 13 2007, 07:41 PM)
do make sure your photography teacher paints you a more complete picture.

when people around you use X brand, you get to share lens. that's nice.

people tend to preach that using X brand is good cos X brand has lotsa lens. that seems OH SO NICE, but what they usually don't tell you is that

1. you are not likely to own more than 5 lens.
2. even if you do, you're still limited by your $$$$

regardless of what brand you get, there WILL be lens for them. even if you get a not-so-widely-used brands in Malaysia like Pentax, it doesn't mean you made a bad choice. smile.gif it's just that going for Nikon or Canon usually means you get higher chance of getting used lens.
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My teacher is also not a professional ................ but he work as a photographer when he is free ~~~~~~ i know......... he also said if i buy canon one then he also can share his lens with me ~~~~~

haha~~~~~ i just secondary school only ~~~~~ that just my kokurikulum club only........... after i graduate i'll go n learn with others ppl one .............
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post Jun 13 2007, 11:10 PM

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hehe. i was in "Kelab Seni Foto" when i was a teen. biggrin.gif use EOS 88 or whatever those film SLRs for snapping school sports day. wink.gif

anyway i'm not saying your teacher doesn't have a point cos i agree too. biggrin.gif for me i was actually looking for Nikon, even had a lens ready. in the end i went for Canon cos got someone offer me rather nice package. biggrin.gif

heck in fact i was eyeing on Pentax before as well. even if you get Nikon D40, don't worry about AF issue. it's just the AF lens that it won't support AF, you can still get AF-S & AF-I lens.
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post Jun 13 2007, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 13 2007, 11:10 PM)
hehe. i was in "Kelab Seni Foto" when i was a teen. biggrin.gif use EOS 88 or whatever those film SLRs for snapping school sports day. wink.gif

anyway i'm not saying your teacher doesn't have a point cos i agree too. biggrin.gif for me i was actually looking for Nikon, even had a lens ready. in the end i went for Canon cos got someone offer me rather nice package. biggrin.gif

heck in fact i was eyeing on Pentax before as well. even if you get Nikon D40, don't worry about AF issue. it's just the AF lens that it won't support AF, you can still get AF-S & AF-I lens.
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this want i know ............. my teacher said the AF motor for me is not a problem~~~~~ because he said that just for speed up the AF only ~~~~~

he tell me buy what brand camera also can ........ because to take a good photo is depends with our skill not depends on the camera body ~~~~~~~~

for me buy what camera also can get a good offer ~~~~ because i know one of the FOTOKEM boss~~~~~~

oh ya........ can u tell me what is the diffrence between the AFS and EFS lens??????

This post has been edited by jacksontham: Jun 13 2007, 11:27 PM
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post Jun 14 2007, 12:39 AM

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AF-S and EF-S lens are the same actually. Just diff naming by canon and nikon.
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post Jun 14 2007, 09:18 AM

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The EF-S lens mount is a derivative of the EF lens mount created for a subset of Canon digital single-lens reflex cameras with APS-C sized image sensors.

The "S" in EF-S stands for "short back focus", which means that the rear element of the lens is closer to the image sensor than on regular 35 mm SLR cameras. The proximity of the rear element to the image sensor greatly enhances the possibilities for wide angle and very wide angle lens, enabling them to be made smaller, lighter (containing less glass), faster (larger aperture) and less expensive. Most current Canon EF-S lenses are wide angle.

Lenses designed specifically for APS-C sized sensors are often optically designed to provide a narrower light cone to match the sensor. However, not all such lenses require the shorter back focus, and may feature the standard EF mount. Such lenses will give noticeable vignetting if used on a 35mm film or sensor camera.
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post Jun 14 2007, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Jun 12 2007, 12:23 PM)
Both also got pros and cons ler...

Technology wise ler, i am sure D40 will do better than 350D...
But Focus Points wise ler, 350D definately dapaoed D40... (7FP vs 3FP)

Buy what you need and what u want...
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haiz............. i also not sure want to buy which one............

because both got its own advantages~~~~~~

the image processor of D40X is better than 350D~~~~ is it means the colour of the photo will be better?????


Added on June 14, 2007, 9:15 pm
QUOTE(nairud @ Jun 14 2007, 09:18 AM)
The EF-S lens mount is a derivative of the EF lens mount created for a subset of Canon digital single-lens reflex cameras with APS-C sized image sensors.

The "S" in EF-S stands for "short back focus", which means that the rear element of the lens is closer to the image sensor than on regular 35 mm SLR cameras. The proximity of the rear element to the image sensor greatly enhances the possibilities for wide angle and very wide angle lens, enabling them to be made smaller, lighter (containing less glass), faster (larger aperture) and less expensive. Most current Canon EF-S lenses are wide angle.

Lenses designed specifically for APS-C sized sensors are often optically designed to provide a narrower light cone to match the sensor. However, not all such lenses require the shorter back focus, and may feature the standard EF mount. Such lenses will give noticeable vignetting if used on a 35mm film or sensor camera.
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thankz for ur information ...................

i know already the lenses of canon SLR and DSLR can share to use ~~~~~ nod.gif nod.gif


Added on June 18, 2007, 7:31 pmsomeone come and solve my problem?????

This post has been edited by jacksontham: Jun 18 2007, 07:31 PM
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post Jul 3 2007, 08:25 PM

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Dai kor~ me too comparing Nikon D40x with Canon 400D...

http://www.pconline.com.cn/digital/dc/ping.../986756_13.html

lens reviews:-
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/index.html


duno whether u able to read chinese or not... but i think it's very useful for u as well. there is a lot of pros and cons out there~ for me, skill is more important than ur equipments. no matter how great ur equipments are, and u've no SKILLS... no point right? u must make use of it~ it's for u to control ur technology, noT the technology control u. Do u understand wat i mean?

After i had done my reseach, i will go for Nikon D40x.

ok, y i will choosed Nikon D40x???

1. base on $$$ Nikon D40x is more cheaper and the lens quality is much more better than Canon 400D.
2. Nikon lenses are cheaper than Canon ( correct me if i'm wrong )
3. AF - Points ( doesnt care cos i'm more on the Skill )
4. For the lens Nikon only support AF-S ( doesnt care cos if i buy new lens i will definately buy latest and new lens )

these are just my opinion ya~ no offences~ wink.gif

i hope i will be Nikonian D40x soon wink.gif

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