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 Apple WWDC, Monday 10am San Francisco, CA

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allvin
post Jun 12 2007, 01:13 AM

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EA comes back to mac.. biggrin.gif C&C3 will be release in july.. Nice 1..
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post Jun 12 2007, 01:23 AM

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u go
http://www.macrumorslive.com/

it's text version la.. biggrin.gif

discussing leopard now..
allvin
post Jun 12 2007, 06:39 PM

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post Jun 12 2007, 07:06 PM

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it is just a joke... vista joke biggrin.gif
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post Jun 12 2007, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(nouras @ Jun 12 2007, 09:08 PM)
I hope there are more key features to leopard that just those tongue.gif steve's probably not mentioning all of em cuz probably doesn't to give M$ a head start copying some of the features in an upcoming service pack(?) hehe honestly, you must agree that it was pretty sad how he had to demonstrate "look and the window reflecting against the dock" lol even on apple.com haha i mean we're talking bout KEY features here.. the the icon preview thing (something like thumbnail view in windows) was a feature i seriously wish OS X had. They brought it in alright- and made it helluva lot better! Very impressive indeed. Ah and stacks is pretty smart alright..

But i dunno ler.. i feel that there are more significant updates in leopard than what has been revealed today. Seriously hope there is..

edit:  Ah i know one significant thing Steve definitely left out- Sun's ZFS file system. Sun has officially announced last week that leopard is running on the ZFS format.
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As a matter of fact, the previous leopard beta already use ZFS format, althought Sun didn't announce .. cool.gif
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post Jun 13 2007, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(wei @ Jun 13 2007, 12:06 AM)
Apparently, there's no ZFS+ for Leopard.
link.

And who said Leopard Beta has ZFS?
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according to insanelymac forum, those forumers who test the beta got but it's unbootable.. And now apple announce that leopard will support ZFS but HFS+ still the primary, cos' till now ZFS is still unbootable..
http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/13/leopard...-it-does-kinda/
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post Jun 13 2007, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(siawgu @ Jun 13 2007, 04:23 PM)
Not sure that Leopard can run one Core duo Processor or not.. cause from the WWDC, it stated 64-bit.. but Core Duo is 32bit.
For Core 2 Duo should be no problem..
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I got one question related to 64bit thingy. As we all know that C2D is 64bit processor, but the mainboard (motherboard) only support 32bit (i refer to non-santa rosa platform and exception of Mac Pro). That's mean that the overall machine is 32bit, right? And now that Jobs stated that leopard from top to bottom is 64bit. And how can 32bit machine support 64bit software(OS)? It doesn't make sense. I doubt that he was telling 100% true.

In my opinion, i think when install in non-64bit machine, it actual install 32bit OS but those 64bit codes or what will be not install and cannot use. I know that leopard can run 32bit and 64bit side by side, but you can only run 64bit software if your machine is 64bit as well by right. hmm.gif

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I think this leopard is like the universal binary concept. It contents both codes but it only use one particular code type according to your machine unsure.gif

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post Jun 13 2007, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(wei @ Jun 13 2007, 05:08 PM)
Probably you wont get the blasting performance boost of full 64bit. The OS will handle the 64bit to 32bit emulation* (as shown during Leopard 1st preview). Leopard will be a full 64bit OS which backward compatible with 32bit apps in short.

No idea how the performance of non-64bit or not fully 64bit hardware. Maybe the user wont get the full juice of 64bit. Then again, not everything will be magically faster even it is 64bit. For larger sum of calculation string, yes. But how often an end user get to do that are very subjective.

*Not sure if emulation is the right words, but hope you get the idea.
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i get what you mean. Well, i think it was more like universal binary concept. It cannot be emulating. If it emulate, the performance suck. See how the rosetta performs? sweat.gif
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post Jun 13 2007, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(MoNnY @ Jun 13 2007, 07:02 PM)
i think he meant that the OS, is 64bit from top to bottom as in if u have a 64bit computer, it will make full use of it...
and its also capable of running on a 32bit computer...
unlike windows where there are so many version, this has everything bundled in one...
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that's the phrase i really have to disagree with Jobs. From what i understand, from top to bottom, it means that it's full 64bit. Assume that even 32bit machine can run 64bit software. But in reality, it's not. Well, maybe just me myself interprets that way. He should say sth like Leopard is 64bit and as well as support 32bit. Why say 64bit from top to bottom? It like full 64bit and even 32bit machine can make FULL USAGE.. sweat.gif

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