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post Nov 23 2018, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Rainings @ Nov 23 2018, 04:15 PM)
is this budget SSD good? planning to get one to store some daily games for the loading speed.
It is really cheap compared to WD and SD.
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All those super cheap ones very likely does not have DRAM cache. Crucial MX500 got price drop and it is definitely better than Kingston A400.
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QUOTE(Rainings @ Nov 23 2018, 08:51 PM)
yis DRAM really that important?
Crucial mx500 better you mean because it has DRAM? i am eyeing for A400 because of the pricing hehe, not still searching for other brands tho.
i only plan to get one SSD drive purely for game storage.
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DRAMless?
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dramle...undup,4833.html

About DRAM cache:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/...h_dram_caching/
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post Nov 28 2018, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(exdtan @ Nov 28 2018, 09:30 AM)
What is your personal experience in using DRAM-less SSD as OS drive ?
I will be testing its lifespan and doing a review for A400 since I am using it as my OS drive to see if what they said is true about DRAM-less SSD.
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Cool. Looking forward to it. I doubt it is better than any SSD with DRAM cache when it is heavy though.

https://www.anandtech.com/bench/SSD18/2431
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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Nov 28 2018, 09:51 AM)
I also just bought Kingston A400 and i used it for my OS. I noticed a very annoying issue with it. more often than not, my screen will freeze(unresponsive) along with the mouse cursor sometimes being able to move and sometimes not being able (stuck) but sounds are still being played without a problem during those unresponsive moments. Especially when programs are being opened.

Damn bloody annoying and it only happened right after i switched to A400 SSD. reformatted it and still the same shit.

does that have to do with the SSD not having DRAM cache?
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Yup. Thats no DRAM cache for you. Stutters when the load is heavy.
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post Nov 28 2018, 03:00 PM

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Hence

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There aren't any winners in our roundup today, and we don't hand out participation ribbons. For most of us enthusiasts, we shouldn’t even consider DRAMless SSDs with planar NAND. It's true that the drives are faster than a hard disk drive, but when you lean on them with a slightly elevated workload, they can stall, stutter, and deliver a worse user experience than you would get with a spinning mechanical disk.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dramle...up,4833-10.html
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QUOTE(derthvadar @ Dec 1 2018, 01:06 PM)
A cheap SDD is much better than HDD.

I personally have no problem using A400.
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Still stutters worse than HDD like users experienced from earlier post. Or here
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4209269/+5680

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QUOTE(derthvadar @ Dec 2 2018, 04:18 AM)
Mine still working fine, maybe my luck still with me.
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Are you using it for primary OS drive?

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QUOTE(derthvadar @ Dec 2 2018, 10:49 AM)
Strictly for OS drive and chrome. Still have 40GB of free space.
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Loading OS definitely will stutter. Chrome is light load. Doesnt count.
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QUOTE(mbr @ Dec 6 2018, 07:56 PM)
Not too bad as steam game drive, no?
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Wouldnt trust a company that cheated once.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/7763/an-upda...wer-micron-nand

Crucial MX500 price difference isnt big. Why buy a crap when the good price/performance SSD isnt much more expensive?
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post Dec 10 2018, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Dec 10 2018, 11:31 AM)
im using this ssd, im upgrading from an ancient hdd, mobo just support sata2, mayb thats why i didnt encounter any slutter issue. the speed is amazing if u are upgrading from hdd.
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SATA 2 is half the bandwidth of SATA 3. Bottlenecks SSDs.
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QUOTE(jorgsacul @ Dec 22 2018, 02:44 PM)
Many are oem produces for them. Overall value for money a400. See how you use it as well, motherboard and other things play big role.
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Ignore that trash. Seagate Barracuda is value for money.
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post Dec 24 2018, 08:20 AM

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For those who doesnt know.
https://shopee.com.my/search?keyword=Seagat...rracuda%20250GB

The new budget king.
QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Dec 24 2018, 08:16 AM)
How about the cheap Kingston a1000? Same issue?
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Still trash.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12991/the-ki...me-ssd-review/2

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 25 2018, 11:03 AM)
Although Kingston A1000 performance is one of the worse for NVME SSD, my opinion it's still better than SATA SSD. Even when against Barracuda SATA SSD.

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https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Seagate...D_500_GB/4.html

NVME always the better choice against SATA because of the bigger bandwidth and better latency. Unless of course if the drive is really bad until SATA SSD can outperform it.
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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Dec 25 2018, 12:07 PM)
Thanks. I bought it because it is cheap, and I happen to have an m.2 slot on my motherboard.
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When you have Intel 760p for RM80 more money which is miles better, A1000 can be ignored.

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https://www.anandtech.com/show/12991/the-ki...me-ssd-review/2
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post Dec 25 2018, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Dec 25 2018, 01:21 PM)
Not RM200 more?
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RM299 for 256GB from Viewnet.
http://viewnet.com.my/
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 25 2018, 04:18 PM)
Cheapest I saw A1000 is RM202. So that makes 760P is expensive by almost 50%. Does the higher price justify the performance?

Anandtech test is more like stress test of the drive. Techpowerup also do normal user usage test.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/S...p_512_GB/8.html

Win 10 startup time
760P 17.7 seconds
A1000 19.2 seconds

Winrar compression time
760P 35.5 seconds
A1000 42.5 seconds

MP3 indexing time
760P 1.7 seconds
A1000 2.3 seconds

Avast anti virus scan time
760P 51.2 seconds
A1000 62.6 seconds

Photoshop editing time
760P 61.5 seconds
A1000 54.3 seconds
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Well, Intel controls prices. That's why you rarely see cheaper from other vendors. Intel is also known for reliability.

Anyway, he already bought it. Dont bother wasting time recommending crap.

QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Dec 25 2018, 05:18 PM)
RM350 for a1000 (480gb). To store my games.
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Cool. Enjoy the slower speed.

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jan 3 2019, 11:14 PM)
Are there's stuttering issue as what some are complaining?
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Yes, some users stutters, or some just ignore or couldn't see the stutters. Its the drawback for DRAMless SSD.

This thread is 240GB. Seagate Barracuda 250GB is the new value king at RM154 and it comes with 256MB DRAM. It will rollover Kingston A400.
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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Jan 5 2019, 11:04 PM)
Seagate Barracuda SSD is not DRAM-less?
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Pretty sure i put "comes with 256MB DRAM".

And here
https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8696/sea...rage/index.html
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QUOTE(ghostcommand @ Nov 9 2019, 01:39 AM)
Samsung is for those who can afford it, they are among the best in the market due to their good quality control.
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Their asking price for most of the models is becoming extreme though. You can get double the storage space for most of other brands.
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QUOTE(ahbenchai @ Dec 17 2019, 12:45 PM)
guys, i plan to get a budget M2 SSD? any recommendation

saw a WD green 480GB for RM220, quite nice

any other better alternative?
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DRAMless rubbish. Adata XPG SX8200 Pro 512GB is not a lot more expensive for significantly more performance.
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QUOTE(crackhard90 @ Sep 20 2020, 12:21 AM)
pheww, luckily i'm come across this thread..almost buying kingston a400 240gb today..

i'm planning to upgrade my laptop hdd to budget ssd, and replace malfunctioned dvd with hdd caddy fitted with old hdd

but then, based on many opinions here, i guess i'm gonna get the mx500 as my primary ssd
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Yup, DRAMless tends to stutter when you push it.

Samsung 860 Evo 250-500GB pricing is getting better as well. Comes with cache (RAPID) on your DRAM.

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