Buy a proper road bike you lazy fatty.

There have been nasty accidents involving these bikes and pedestrians.

Mind to shed some light on this?
Because I want to know, what drives to gomen of Merehsia make bike lane in roadways (colored in blue) if they meant to kill more pedesterians

there is a reason why it is illegal. it is too slow on main road traffic. same reason as why you are not supposed to walk on the main road because other motorbike and car will be slowed down by you, and can easily hit you and cause you serious harm if not careful.

see how the traffic condition was like back when everyone and their dogs share the use of main road


from that experiences, road usage has been regulated to current form. now this new e bicycle is finding it hard to fit in. if use on pedestrian road, too fast. if use on main road, too slow. the idea situation is to have new lanes for it, but that's a difficult change because that will mean all existing roads need to be re-zoned properly.

how to harar? no idea. you propose some lor.

where to buy one locally?

WTF not motorcycles. Road bike also tak tau ?

these bikes - and similar derivatives - are too slow compared to other vehicles and thus themselves become a hazard to everyone else. THAT, is why 5hey cannot be certified for on-the-road. - minister, in a newspaper article.
not a joke.

There has been a company selling electric bike, so how does it works?
Still need Plat number and pay road tax

you yourself admitted pedalling is not a viable long-term option due to terrain condition in your path. you also admitted of being aware that electrical bikes are not allowed on the road and the reasoning.

then use other more proper and safer tool for the job and occasion.

don't be selfish into asking for officials to "start focussing" into your indulging wannas. there are more pressing and time-sensitive issues to tackle in our country compared to road bikes.

In my opinion, for leisure use, sure. But for daily commute to work - a hazard. You still will use the motorist lane. Sure we have bike lanes in blue but during peak traffic jam/daily commute, due to the speed and handling (never used one so maybe la..) is a hazard. Since it is motorised, I would say it is considered a motorcycle and therefore need to conform to regular motorist rules - signal indicators, brake lights, speed (can't be too slow even) etc.

If let's say 50% of the office are using this, where are they supposed to park the bicycle? Now maybe it's easy for you to bring it all the way into your office, as there's only you riding it and it won't take up much space.

When it becomes mainstream and people start using it, you may be forced to park outside, which brings the problem of theft or vandalism

indeed it does causing hazard in longer run.
anyway, in our daily life, even lrt drive potential hazard and unknown accidents factor, but even after lrt has been extended to lrt 3, has our traffic gone better?

what about those commuting with lrt and then continues with foldable ebike because lrt doesnt cover all area. which our gomen have put so much focus into, too.

i saw lrt nowadays almost empty.

Interesting thread , no so long ago got similar thread
Other  ts buying foldable two wheel scooter to commute using mrt eg that xiaomi foldable version to his office

I was thinking to ride an electric bicycle to office in near future. Making electric bike a lifestyle for commuting for citizen of Malaysia.
But I am not sure about how far has JPJ or Malaysia Baru has already advanced in this motion, PTPTN seems more matter than daily life issues, and lowering price of crude oil palm price.

Di*k-tionary
Electric Bicycle - has cycling pedal and electric motorized assist (Speed below 35km/j)
Electric Bike - 2 wheeeled Motorcycle that is totally electric (Speed below 55km/j)
Electric Scooter - 2 wheeled device with electric motor assist without pedal (Speed below 25km/j)

There has been a company selling electric bike, so how does it works?
Still need Plat number and pay road tax?

And there is a blooming market of sellers in Lazada and shopee importing it from oversea and selling it in Malaysia.

So to go green and promote healthy life, does electric bicycle allowed? As we used renewable energy and have tendency to cycle using pedal when needed.
If the gomen of Merehsia said we need Road Tax, plat n insurance, then how about bicycle owners? They do cycle on road too (mostly kesas, do they summoned by police? Any lead?)

It happened to be so intriguing for me to saw one lady riding her electric bicycle cruising happily along Bandar Parkland (Klang - Banting Federal roadways)
If she can do it, i think we all can do it too right?

I cannot brain to see main road in Shah Alam and KL have blue lane for cyclist. Lack of incompetency in implementing the motion across country like only driver in Shah Alam drive very slow and have little hazard? So KL don't have meh?

What's your opinion?

1. Do you think to stimulate healthier Malaysian and reduce fatty /k and reduce emission, gomen should encourage those commuting to office within 25KM from home to use e-bike and get tax reduction of any manner?

2. Do you think electric motorbike (no pedal) will be the future and if they managed to make it sustained longer distance and cruise faster, does road tax necessary?

3. We have already been saddened with PTPTN and to face floating fuel price with targeted subsidiaries in near future, why does this minorities get little shed of light from gomen?

4. Of course driving faster and riding faster is important to stimuli economy, but not necessarily polluting earth and paying toll is the fixed lifestyle, right?

....

I will be buying one soon, and I will post here once or if I was summoned by police (if im lucky to be alive lah not being hit by motorist)
But surely will be extra careful to take road less traveled like jalan2 kecik and jalan kampung to work.
I have already calculated distance around 25KM to office and if i can get 25km/h e-bicycle, that would be enough ad, 20KM assisted, 5km by pedal. (Im gaining fat recently, taik doesn't help much)

Who suppork? Let's do this? We need to bring this matter to official. I will be writing to ministry department too (as I used to be working as Gomen Servant back then in MoT)
Bike will be branded with
Bike i'm lurking : Despite have no pedal. But this is the cheapest in the market and have big space to paste sticker.


InB4  : Link to pledge some money to buy and pay summon, closing date 30st Nov 2018 -- > https://www.billplz.com/mk3xxmwm4
Kickoff date December 1st 2018 (purchase and 3 days fullfilment)
Meanwhile I will start writing to officials and provide feedback from theme here.
Excess of pledge will be donated to uncle kentang. (this has no relation on profit making, more to CSR)
I will keep transparency of all pledge and donation. Promise. So for every RM50 raised, I will personally donate RM10 own pocket money to uncle kentang too.
i did some online research already but all are outdated and obsolete.

https://www.google.com/search?q=electric+bi...iw=1600&bih=799

Don't simple bash me ya, i have enough money all, but I think i need to start making a change in our everyday life, our earth, our future and many other things and I want to see how many will be backing me. Alone I can do good, together, stronger.

pulau ketam ramain guna ni

Through procrastinating in lazada and shopee I saw a few already selling (imported from mainland of china, my atok kampong halaman)
but the option is a bit limited, few design are ladybike and few are selling the motor only so u can alter your existing bike.

But come back to core points, is to gain team/group of people/enthusiast in upbringing this as national highlight for our future

Buy a proper road bike you lazy fatty.

Why not foldablw normal bicycle? Die die need electric ah?

foldable option maybe, keep under my table, and maybe charge as i sit and work and pedalling it, there has been company who offer hybrid workstation products like Markant etc.

They combined standing, cycling and sleeper working station nowadays.

Talking about vandalism, has all cars in malaysia up to vandalism? there will be a way to encounter this. well at less it consume less space. if only obike and others is electric and gomen have focus in this, they wont ended up in trash.

Azree, im planning to use it as well, u have my sapok

My friend tauke kedai basikal said they r having issues to import e-bike due to licensing n permit

Put up a review if u decided to buy

Okthanksbye

Not logical to compare with cars, I've been to a few countries that ride alot of bicycle and park them outside. Theft and vandalism on bicycle is way more common than those on cars.

For cheapo bikes maybe it's fine, just buy a new one, but for expensive ones like these, not worth the trouble

get those foldable model that uses small wheel base so that after folding its size is about as big as those travel bag with trolley that ppl pull around town

its a bicycle with elect motor assist. so it is a bicycle and not a electric motorcycle.

seen these first hand in action and have to say it is super convenient! would have gotten myself one if have the opportunity
imagine fold it and keep in boot of your car. then drive and park somewhere that is easy to get parking which usually mean farther from office.
then pakai bicycle to reach office.

given malaysia's situation this feel to be a more practical first step approach compared direct from home to office which tends to be a bit too far or have to use highways

My friend tauke kedai basikal said they r having issues to import e-bike due to licensing n permit

Put up a review if u decided to buy

Okthanksbye

ya lor, at least once lrt3 siap, i can take bike 1st then lrt then bike again

If only lrt interior have power adaptor to charge would be gooding too

ya lor, at least once lrt3 siap, i can take bike 1st then lrt then bike again

If only lrt interior have power adaptor to charge would be gooding too

rumah container ape citer ?

first thing first, gotta get LRT management to agree to allow icycle/ebike/scoot on board during peak hours.

i know KTM once allowed but after a while they disallowed again.

i would imagine the main challenge would be the battery or the tyre itself.
found out recently that tyre is a controlled item here and kennot simply bawak masuk one 
yea, dont go for those big tyre models, coz those after folding is still bulky and most likely kennot put under your desk or easily bawak masuk lrt
i didnt check if cycling will charge the battery or not.. maybe it does. that would mean if batt low just need to cycle for a while to charge up. or duduk tepi jalan and spin the wheel till enough charge for uphill

Who suppork? Let's do this? We need to bring this matter to official. I will be writing to ministry department too (as I used to be working as Gomen Servant back then in MoT)
Bike will be branded with
Bike i'm lurking : Despite have no pedal. But this is the cheapest in the market and have big space to paste sticker.



Do let me know how it work for u coz no reviews yet in lazada bout the bike. i might b interested

Thread reported by someone, but worry not, I will buy one surely. How some are very ill.

Next time, buy the one with the pedal assist, not the fully automatic with throttle one.
This type of bicycle is legal, as long as the motor is kept below 250 watt and the speed not exceeding 25 km/h. I'm thinking getting one myself once I have saved enough. I won't go for the China made for the time being because of the quality, they still use the heavy lead-acid battery and also mid-drive motor still not widely used yet even though they have their own brans (8Fun or Bafang)
https://electricbikereview.com/

loooool ?? what reason for report?

I actually support this. I plan on getting this for my daily commute to and fro office, transportation mode: drive to somewhere near MRT, ride e scooter/segway to MRT station, and from MRT station to office. Somewhere about 2-3km a day.

I've been walking and I ain't even complaining about walking, but I support tech
(and it saves time too)

One concern and it concerns everyone though: The weight of the segway (about 10kg) and e-scooter (7kg-12kg).

Is it feasible? I have no problem carrying such a weight into office but it'd be too big/obvious

looking into xiaomi scooter https://www.mi.com/global/mi-electric-scooter/
the weight is 12.5KG, quite heavy for small electric scooter,
but my concern is the tire is smaller than 1 foot in diameter, potholes in malaysia wins many time,
if langgar potholes confirm die one, because too small (the tire)

Those scooter is oly good for last mile transportation (eg from LRT to the office). because of very limited range. You should get a proper electric bicycle that has 40km + range. Maybe you sould consider Xiaomi QiCycle instead (as long as you not overweight) . A bit pricey but fits your requirement compared to Xiaomi Mijia. Xiaomi QiCycle

Ts use electric bike to nearest train station

Then take train to work

But many question lies ahead.

looking into xiaomi scooter https://www.mi.com/global/mi-electric-scooter/
the weight is 12.5KG, quite heavy for small electric scooter,
but my concern is the tire is smaller than 1 foot in diameter, potholes in malaysia wins many time,
if langgar potholes confirm die one, because too small (the tire)

Pothole is gonna be a serious concern if you plan to travel more than 10km with that. But then again you have to reconsider if you plan to travel longer distance with scooter cause the maturity of the road users here is just 

Plus here in Malaysia it's not so walking friendly in terms of the walkways. Unless you use it on the main road. Unlike singapore 

I only plan to use it for last mile (not more than 5km a day)

Interesting topic.

Currently, JPJ listed only two categories; kenderaan elektrik (electric vehicle) and basikal elektrik (electric bicycle).

1. Electric bicycle must have pedal. The speed has no limit if you pedalling without motor assist. If you using motor power, the speed must be limited to only 25kmph.

Seperti yang telah ditetapkan di bawah Seksyen 2, Akta Pengangkutan Jalan 1987, ‘kenderaan elektrik' bermaksud kenderaan motor yang dipacu oleh sumber elektrik dan tidak termasuk basikal elektrik. Ini bermakna basikal elektrik adalah tidak tertakluk kepada pendaftaran dengan JPJ dan tidak memerlukan sebarang lesen. Di bawah Seksyen 2, Akta Pengangkutan Jalan 1987, ‘basikal elektrik' bermaksud sikal-sikal dengan bantuan kayuh yang dilengkapi dengan sokongan motor elektrik yang mempunyai kadar kuasa output maksima yang berterusan sebanyak 0.25 kW, yang mana output akan berkurangan secara beransur-ansur dan akhirnya terhenti apabila kenderaan mencapai kelajuan 25km/j atau sebelumnya, jika penunggang sikal berhenti mengayuh. Mana-mana basikal elektrik yang mematuhi definisi ini akan tertakluk kepada pematuhan MS 2514: Electric Bicycles – Specification.

2. Electric vehicle is any other vehicle with powerful motor drivetrain that not belongs to electric bicycle category. By this definition, electric car, electric motorcycle, electric bus.

Seksyen 2, Akta Pengangkutan Jalan 1987 menyatakan bahawa kenderaan motor elektrik ditafsirkan sebagai mana – mana kenderaan motor yang dipacu oleh sumber elektrik dan tidak termasuk basikal elektrik.  Oleh itu, setiap kenderaan elektrik tersebut adalah wajib memenuhi ketetapan seperti berikut:-
a) Mempunyai nombor siri dan nombor casis yang terang & jelas;
b) Mempunyai kelajuan maksimum melebihi 50km/j;
c) Memiliki kebolehan mendaki melebihi gradient 20%;
d) Spesifikasi bateri dan sistem pendawaian elektrik yang digunakan hendaklah mempunyai perakuan oleh badan kompeten;
e) Mematuhi kepada Peraturan United Nations (UN) R100 : Battery Electric Vehicles; dan
f) Bagi motosikal elektrik, ia perlu mematuhi kepada standard MS 2413.

So far, Akta Pengangkutan Jalan does not specifically mention other types of small electric vehicle. By small electric vehicle, I mean like e-scooter, electric skateboard, Segway, etc... These vehicle does not belong to the two categories mentioned above.

The pattern of public transport now actually go towards the use of these small electric vehicles as first mile and last mile transport. Malaysia will go this way as well, I supposed, because our new bajet proposes a good initative of using RM100 and RM50 public transport pass.

Currently, I am using electric motorcycle to commute to work. Modenas CTric. (http://blog.ump.edu.my/hamdan/ctric1.html)

Reference: http://www.mpbp.gov.my/sites/default/files...gkutanjalan.pdf

Interesting topic.

Currently, JPJ listed only two categories; kenderaan elektrik (electric vehicle) and basikal elektrik (electric bicycle).

1. Electric bicycle must have pedal. The speed has no limit if you pedalling without motor assist. If you using motor power, the speed must be limited to only 25kmph.

Seperti yang telah ditetapkan di bawah Seksyen 2, Akta Pengangkutan Jalan 1987, ‘kenderaan elektrik' bermaksud kenderaan motor yang dipacu oleh sumber elektrik dan tidak termasuk basikal elektrik. Ini bermakna basikal elektrik adalah tidak tertakluk kepada pendaftaran dengan JPJ dan tidak memerlukan sebarang lesen. Di bawah Seksyen 2, Akta Pengangkutan Jalan 1987, ‘basikal elektrik' bermaksud sikal-sikal dengan bantuan kayuh yang dilengkapi dengan sokongan motor elektrik yang mempunyai kadar kuasa output maksima yang berterusan sebanyak 0.25 kW, yang mana output akan berkurangan secara beransur-ansur dan akhirnya terhenti apabila kenderaan mencapai kelajuan 25km/j atau sebelumnya, jika penunggang sikal berhenti mengayuh. Mana-mana basikal elektrik yang mematuhi definisi ini akan tertakluk kepada pematuhan MS 2514: Electric Bicycles – Specification.

2. Electric vehicle is any other vehicle with powerful motor drivetrain that not belongs to electric bicycle category. By this definition, electric car, electric motorcycle, electric bus.

Seksyen 2, Akta Pengangkutan Jalan 1987 menyatakan bahawa kenderaan motor elektrik ditafsirkan sebagai mana – mana kenderaan motor yang dipacu oleh sumber elektrik dan tidak termasuk basikal elektrik.  Oleh itu, setiap kenderaan elektrik tersebut adalah wajib memenuhi ketetapan seperti berikut:-
a) Mempunyai nombor siri dan nombor casis yang terang & jelas;
b) Mempunyai kelajuan maksimum melebihi 50km/j;
c) Memiliki kebolehan mendaki melebihi gradient 20%;
d) Spesifikasi bateri dan sistem pendawaian elektrik yang digunakan hendaklah mempunyai perakuan oleh badan kompeten;
e) Mematuhi kepada Peraturan United Nations (UN) R100 : Battery Electric Vehicles; dan
f) Bagi motosikal elektrik, ia perlu mematuhi kepada standard MS 2413.

So far, Akta Pengangkutan Jalan does not specifically mention other types of small electric vehicle. By small electric vehicle, I mean like e-scooter, electric skateboard, Segway, etc... These vehicle does not belong to the two categories mentioned above.

The pattern of public transport now actually go towards the use of these small electric vehicles as first mile and last mile transport. Malaysia will go this way as well, I supposed, because our new bajet proposes a good initative of using RM100 and RM50 public transport pass.

Reference: http://www.mpbp.gov.my/sites/default/files...gkutanjalan.pdf

Thanks for sharing the info bro. Looks like we have a loophole in our regulations. So, electric scooter, electric skateboard still in the limbo.

E-bicycle must have pedal, so long it is less than 250W motor AND no more than 25km/h max speed when assisted by motor.

Electric vehicle other than e-bicycle must fulfill the conditions, such as motor and chassis no, must be about to move more than 50km/h and climb 20% gradient slope.

Now, the grey area is those electric powered vehicle (Segway, e-scooters, hoverboard, e-bike not fulfilling the above criteria, self manufactured electric go cart). These vehicles should be used on the sidewalk? Segway and scooters are to be used on sidewalk, but what about e-bike and e-scooter capable of 25km/h? Allow to use the road?

get a car

Just seen scooters zooming around at high speed in Clark Quay area Singapore, don't see Singapore taking actions

i do have car and 2 motorbikes already, now looking into electric bicycle

I think small e-bike and e-scooter, so long as no more than 25km/h can use the road just as any bicycle, but not highway. However, the wheels in these vehicles are arranged in a straight line, not side by side. I think if side by side like Segway, just use the sidewalk.

Those bigger e-bike like Harley Davidson type, still grey area. Just tell the polis it cannot travel fast about 25km/h despite its bigger size. E-bike are for those taman/small/neighborhood roads. But if you could ride on sidewalk safely, just do so.

Bigger ebike is considered as electric motorcycle. It's not grey area.

Just like Modenas CTric.

I was thinking to ride an electric bicycle to office in near future. Making electric bike a lifestyle for commuting for citizen of Malaysia.
But I am not sure about how far has JPJ or Malaysia Baru has already advanced in this motion, PTPTN seems more matter than daily life issues, and lowering price of crude oil palm price.

Di*k-tionary
Electric Bicycle - has cycling pedal and electric motorized assist (Speed below 35km/j)
Electric Bike - 2 wheeeled Motorcycle that is totally electric (Speed below 55km/j)
Electric Scooter - 2 wheeled device with electric motor assist without pedal (Speed below 25km/j)

There has been a company selling electric bike, so how does it works?
Still need Plat number and pay road tax?

And there is a blooming market of sellers in Lazada and shopee importing it from oversea and selling it in Malaysia.

So to go green and promote healthy life, does electric bicycle allowed? As we used renewable energy and have tendency to cycle using pedal when needed.
If the gomen of Merehsia said we need Road Tax, plat n insurance, then how about bicycle owners? They do cycle on road too (mostly kesas, do they summoned by police? Any lead?)

It happened to be so intriguing for me to saw one lady riding her electric bicycle cruising happily along Bandar Parkland (Klang - Banting Federal roadways)
If she can do it, i think we all can do it too right?

I cannot brain to see main road in Shah Alam and KL have blue lane for cyclist. Lack of incompetency in implementing the motion across country like only driver in Shah Alam drive very slow and have little hazard? So KL don't have meh?

What's your opinion?

1. Do you think to stimulate healthier Malaysian and reduce fatty /k and reduce emission, gomen should encourage those commuting to office within 25KM from home to use e-bike and get tax reduction of any manner?

2. Do you think electric motorbike (no pedal) will be the future and if they managed to make it sustained longer distance and cruise faster, does road tax necessary?

3. We have already been saddened with PTPTN and to face floating fuel price with targeted subsidiaries in near future, why does this minorities get little shed of light from gomen?

4. Of course driving faster and riding faster is important to stimuli economy, but not necessarily polluting earth and paying toll is the fixed lifestyle, right?

....

I will be buying one soon, and I will post here once or if I was summoned by police (if im lucky to be alive lah not being hit by motorist)
But surely will be extra careful to take road less traveled like jalan2 kecik and jalan kampung to work.
I have already calculated distance around 25KM to office and if i can get 25km/h e-bicycle, that would be enough ad, 20KM assisted, 5km by pedal. (Im gaining fat recently, taik doesn't help much)

Who suppork? Let's do this? We need to bring this matter to official. I will be writing to ministry department too (as I used to be working as Gomen Servant back then in MoT)
Bike will be branded with
Bike i'm lurking : Despite have no pedal. But this is the cheapest in the market and have big space to paste sticker.


since some lipoted, i take away donation link for the csr project. but continue chat like usual

https://www.google.com/search?q=electric+bi...iw=1600&bih=799

Don't simple bash me ya, i have enough money all, but I think i need to start making a change in our everyday life, our earth, our future and many other things and I want to see how many will be backing me. Alone I can do good, together, stronger.

Google MateX bike  . It like foldable BMX

Still indiegogo right? meaning chances are it may not be realized yet

From I read , this is second projects . Or u go buy the original one at their website and shipped here