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TSazreeceli
post Nov 15 2018, 01:00 AM, updated 8y ago

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I was thinking to ride an electric bicycle to office in near future. Making electric bike a lifestyle for commuting for citizen of Malaysia.
But I am not sure about how far has JPJ or Malaysia Baru has already advanced in this motion, PTPTN seems more matter than daily life issues, and lowering price of crude oil palm price.

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Electric Bicycle - has cycling pedal and electric motorized assist (Speed below 35km/j)
Electric Bike - 2 wheeeled Motorcycle that is totally electric (Speed below 55km/j)
Electric Scooter - 2 wheeled device with electric motor assist without pedal (Speed below 25km/j)

There has been a company selling electric bike, so how does it works?
Still need Plat number and pay road tax?

And there is a blooming market of sellers in Lazada and shopee importing it from oversea and selling it in Malaysia.

So to go green and promote healthy life, does electric bicycle allowed? As we used renewable energy and have tendency to cycle using pedal when needed.
If the gomen of Merehsia said we need Road Tax, plat n insurance, then how about bicycle owners? They do cycle on road too (mostly kesas, do they summoned by police? Any lead?)

It happened to be so intriguing for me to saw one lady riding her electric bicycle cruising happily along Bandar Parkland (Klang - Banting Federal roadways)
If she can do it, i think we all can do it too right?

I cannot brain to see main road in Shah Alam and KL have blue lane for cyclist. Lack of incompetency in implementing the motion across country like only driver in Shah Alam drive very slow and have little hazard? So KL don't have meh?

What's your opinion?

1. Do you think to stimulate healthier Malaysian and reduce fatty /k and reduce emission, gomen should encourage those commuting to office within 25KM from home to use e-bike and get tax reduction of any manner?

2. Do you think electric motorbike (no pedal) will be the future and if they managed to make it sustained longer distance and cruise faster, does road tax necessary?

3. We have already been saddened with PTPTN and to face floating fuel price with targeted subsidiaries in near future, why does this minorities get little shed of light from gomen?

4. Of course driving faster and riding faster is important to stimuli economy, but not necessarily polluting earth and paying toll is the fixed lifestyle, right?

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I will be buying one soon, and I will post here once or if I was summoned by police (if im lucky to be alive lah not being hit by motorist)
But surely will be extra careful to take road less traveled like jalan2 kecik and jalan kampung to work.
I have already calculated distance around 25KM to office and if i can get 25km/h e-bicycle, that would be enough ad, 20KM assisted, 5km by pedal. (Im gaining fat recently, taik doesn't help much)

Who suppork? Let's do this? We need to bring this matter to official. I will be writing to ministry department too (as I used to be working as Gomen Servant back then in MoT)
Bike will be branded with
Bike i'm lurking : Despite have no pedal. But this is the cheapest in the market and have big space to paste sticker.

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since some lipoted, i take away donation link for the csr project. but continue chat like usual

https://www.google.com/search?q=electric+bi...iw=1600&bih=799

Don't simple bash me ya, i have enough money all, but I think i need to start making a change in our everyday life, our earth, our future and many other things and I want to see how many will be backing me. Alone I can do good, together, stronger.

This post has been edited by azreeceli: Nov 15 2018, 12:45 PM
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post Nov 15 2018, 01:03 AM

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There have been nasty accidents involving these bikes and pedestrians.
TSazreeceli
post Nov 15 2018, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(mistercoder @ Nov 15 2018, 01:02 AM)
Buy a proper road bike you lazy fatty.
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You commented too fast, I already have SYM t2 250cc and Grey Matte Scomadi 150cc.
Now I want to get rid of all this posession as it was underutilized by me, my scomadi I give my worker to use. My SYM ada dalam rumah park cantik2

TSazreeceli
post Nov 15 2018, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Nov 15 2018, 01:03 AM)
There have been nasty accidents involving these bikes and pedestrians.
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Mind to shed some light on this?
Because I want to know, what drives to gomen of Merehsia make bike lane in roadways (colored in blue) if they meant to kill more pedesterians
TSazreeceli
post Nov 15 2018, 01:06 AM

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Thread reported by someone, but worry not, I will buy one surely. How some are very ill.
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post Nov 15 2018, 01:07 AM

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there is a reason why it is illegal. it is too slow on main road traffic. same reason as why you are not supposed to walk on the main road because other motorbike and car will be slowed down by you, and can easily hit you and cause you serious harm if not careful.

see how the traffic condition was like back when everyone and their dogs share the use of main road




from that experiences, road usage has been regulated to current form. now this new e bicycle is finding it hard to fit in. if use on pedestrian road, too fast. if use on main road, too slow. the idea situation is to have new lanes for it, but that's a difficult change because that will mean all existing roads need to be re-zoned properly.

how to harar? no idea. you propose some lor.


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post Nov 15 2018, 01:07 AM

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where to buy one locally?

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QUOTE(azreeceli @ Nov 15 2018, 01:04 AM)
Mind to shed some light on this?
Because I want to know, what drives to gomen of Merehsia make bike lane in roadways (colored in blue) if they meant to kill more pedesterians
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Bike lanes do not extend everywhere. Eventually, the bikes will share common passages with pedestrians. The bikes are also quiet. Pedestrians can't hear them.

Singapore has quite a number of accidents already.

https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/parli...evices-in-first
TSazreeceli
post Nov 15 2018, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(tictac88 @ Nov 15 2018, 01:07 AM)
there is a reason why it is illegal. it is too slow on main road traffic. same reason as why you are not supposed to walk on the main road because other motorbike and car will be slowed down by you, and can easily hit you and cause you serious harm if not careful.

see how the traffic condition was like back when everyone and their dogs share the use of main road


from that experiences, road usage has been regulated to current form. now this new e bicycle is finding it hard to fit in. if use on pedestrian road, too fast. if use on main road, too slow. the idea situation is to have new lanes for it, but that's a difficult change because that will mean all existing roads need to be re-zoned properly.

how to harar? no idea. you propose some lor.
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Thank you for your time writing and giving feedback.
As human, we always have to be agile in innovating and inventing something new.
What we have does nowadays it to allow more ignorace and chase for capital gain (in business) and that has caused a lot of harm in the world.

I have taken 1 simple step to showcase on how to reuse reclaim container house and land and I know it is possible even almost impossible at the very beginning.
If we all looked into hashtag #rumahkontena in instagram, many youngsters has follow this lead (i didn't claim my lead)

To me big idea starts small and small change today will brings big impact in the future
TSazreeceli
post Nov 15 2018, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Silfer @ Nov 15 2018, 01:07 AM)
where to buy one locally?
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Through procrastinating in lazada and shopee I saw a few already selling (imported from mainland of china, my atok kampong halaman)
but the option is a bit limited, few design are ladybike and few are selling the motor only so u can alter your existing bike.

But come back to core points, is to gain team/group of people/enthusiast in upbringing this as national highlight for our future
TSazreeceli
post Nov 15 2018, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(mistercoder @ Nov 15 2018, 01:12 AM)
WTF not motorcycles. Road bike also tak tau ?

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To be honest i know road bikes, small thin tyre for racing use.
Upon the invention of brushless DC motor and AC motor by nicola tesla, we seems to almost halt and stop in advancing this.

Frankly speaking, I can't ride 25KM everyday with pedal, i need some electric motor assistance for uphill intake. I may die pedalling through hill gasping for air, lol
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post Nov 15 2018, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(Mummy Shark @ Nov 15 2018, 01:17 AM)
these bikes - and similar derivatives - are too slow compared to other vehicles and thus themselves become a hazard to everyone else. THAT, is why 5hey cannot be certified for on-the-road. - minister, in a newspaper article.
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I did read about it, but that news was back than in 2011. Now in 2018 suddenly a company surfaced to launch few variants in november at expensive price.
How old folks / unfortunate be able to buy that.

As core objective i want to underline here is again to drive enthusiast coming together as a team to wake the gomen officials to start focussing in this.
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rumah container ape citer ?
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There has been a company selling electric bike, so how does it works?
Still need Plat number and pay road tax


Are you using it on a public road (with line at the side) ?
Is it self propelled?

Then yes it's covered under JPJ.

Now close one eye because not rampant yet. Once the first major accident between these e-scooter bike happen then you'll see the knee jerk effect to regulate these.
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In my opinion, for leisure use, sure. But for daily commute to work - a hazard. You still will use the motorist lane. Sure we have bike lanes in blue but during peak traffic jam/daily commute, due to the speed and handling (never used one so maybe la..) is a hazard. Since it is motorised, I would say it is considered a motorcycle and therefore need to conform to regular motorist rules - signal indicators, brake lights, speed (can't be too slow even) etc.
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QUOTE(Mummy Shark @ Nov 15 2018, 01:38 AM)
you yourself admitted pedalling is not a viable long-term option due to terrain condition in your path. you also admitted of being aware that electrical bikes are not allowed on the road and the reasoning.

then use other more proper and safer tool for the job and occasion.

don't be selfish into asking for officials to "start focussing" into your indulging wannas. there are more pressing and time-sensitive issues to tackle in our country compared to road bikes.
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thank you for your feedback, i may sounded selfish in this manner, but we forget about the side effects of time is money. because we all chasing time, we tends to care less about environment and saling upbeat our pace.

To go backward would drive higher jumping distant surely.
I do take your input positively, yes maybe i am selfish for my wannas. do you have reccommendation? maybe u can share with us here
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If let's say 50% of the office are using this, where are they supposed to park the bicycle? Now maybe it's easy for you to bring it all the way into your office, as there's only you riding it and it won't take up much space.

When it becomes mainstream and people start using it, you may be forced to park outside, which brings the problem of theft or vandalism
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post Nov 15 2018, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Nov 15 2018, 01:47 AM)
In my opinion, for leisure use, sure. But for daily commute to work - a hazard. You still will use the motorist lane. Sure we have bike lanes in blue but during peak traffic jam/daily commute, due to the speed and handling (never used one so maybe la..) is a hazard. Since it is motorised, I would say it is considered a motorcycle and therefore need to conform to regular motorist rules - signal indicators, brake lights, speed (can't be too slow even) etc.
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indeed it does causing hazard in longer run.
anyway, in our daily life, even lrt drive potential hazard and unknown accidents factor, but even after lrt has been extended to lrt 3, has our traffic gone better?

what about those commuting with lrt and then continues with foldable ebike because lrt doesnt cover all area. which our gomen have put so much focus into, too.

i saw lrt nowadays almost empty.
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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Nov 15 2018, 01:56 AM)
If let's say 50% of the office are using this, where are they supposed to park the bicycle? Now maybe it's easy for you to bring it all the way into your office, as there's only you riding it and it won't take up much space.

When it becomes mainstream and people start using it, you may be forced to park outside, which brings the problem of theft or vandalism
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foldable option maybe, keep under my table, and maybe charge as i sit and work and pedalling it, there has been company who offer hybrid workstation products like Markant etc.

They combined standing, cycling and sleeper working station nowadays.

Talking about vandalism, has all cars in malaysia up to vandalism? there will be a way to encounter this. well at less it consume less space. if only obike and others is electric and gomen have focus in this, they wont ended up in trash.
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QUOTE(azreeceli @ Nov 15 2018, 01:59 AM)
indeed it does causing hazard in longer run.
anyway, in our daily life, even lrt drive potential hazard and unknown accidents factor, but even after lrt has been extended to lrt 3, has our traffic gone better?

what about those commuting with lrt and then continues with foldable ebike because lrt doesnt cover all area. which our gomen have put so much focus into, too.

i saw lrt nowadays almost empty.
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If I lived nearer to my work place I think I might try using electric bike 😆

For now it is not mainstream. I've seen some white guys cycling after work during jam hours. Looks so dangerous... Motorists avoiding / he going slower than them. I would say why not give it a go and see if it works out for you. If not practical then can sell off the bike lol.. as for legality, this I am not sure but as I mentioned should conform to normal motorised transport rules.

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