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post Jul 30 2019, 03:30 AM

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QUOTE(kueks @ Jul 23 2019, 09:04 PM)
oic haha

i been wanting angelica for so long

no good healer

hmm
hope they will make angelica event xD
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Very subjective I guess when it comes to healer

Lots move pretty fast with Cr pushes, pair it up with book if you want more Cr pushes, potion vial for free cleanse

Achates have low cd for both her skills, S3 is team full cleanse, pair with a candlestick she works wonders upkeeping heals

Jecht literally clears a single debuff every turn, decent candidate for banshee clears, used him and non sc momo clear 10-10 previously

Most team comp requires speed tuning to work at their best though, make sure your speed between who you want to go first have a 20 speed gap difference to avoid speed rng, usually that'll mess up your gameplan

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post Jul 30 2019, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(kueks @ Jul 30 2019, 01:12 PM)
oh i have tamarine, how should i build her?

i have shooting star achates and achates too

which one better for heal and what build should i have for healer? xD
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Tamarine is basically an aggressive support healer, and i wouldn't use her to tank unless you have aurius+idols cheer+good hp rolls(her awakening & modifier is odd, scales with target hp).
Ideally she runs as a sub healer, with speed stats to get all her skills rolling to idol form early so that she can keep comboing dual strikes with your main dps. That's why iseria tama combo is desirable, to shortcut her S3 cd early and start idol form. She's basically pve god.

SS Achates is one of those hit and miss moonlight heroes however, very niche and punishing if you miss the timing for her resurrection/immortality buff or heals( her S3 heal bypasses anti heal debuff iirc) but rewarding once you get the hang of her and how you want to counter your enemy (it's either you go last or first)

Achates benefits from both stats, speed or hp, since her cd is low and her healing scales with her hp. I use her to tank mostly( so triple hp set, you can improvise by giving her a speed mainstat boot hp set), to abuse the candlestick cd reduction proc and her S2 S3 rotation. Immortality and team heal+cleanse.



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post Aug 2 2019, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(silkysilk @ Aug 1 2019, 10:36 PM)
Ras is the main char but not strong, worth to level him up?
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He's actually decent if you exclude the elemental disadvantages.

Excluding the nat4 & 5s

Kluri and butcher corp is a good replacement to invest if you have them, since they have specialty changes once you hit 50 with em. I still use f.kluri in certain fights after her nerf.


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post Aug 2 2019, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Aug 2 2019, 12:58 AM)
How do I build a team with Vildred, Sez and Destina?
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Personally I'd put destina on tank/healing role, put candlestick on her. Her base speed is low. Cd is high.

I'd choose and invest heavy on either one for sez or vildred. Both of them are great finisher/cleavers. You can run or invest in both, but getting one maxed out is enough to do the job excluding elemental disadvantages. Depending on how you wanna set your team and playstyle, you can choose.

I own both:

Sez:
Passive cleave starts when target hits below 50%
S3 is single target, if target dies, does aoe DMG based on atk
The anti heal debuff from sez can be annoying at times, cuz some opponent heals or triggers skill/buff once they get debuffed.

Vildred:
Passive cleave starts upon target death
Normal atk hits 2 targets
If enemy dies you get a slight Cr boost, if killed by vildred you get a turn atk buff.
S3 is aoe cleave
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post Aug 2 2019, 02:45 PM

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Assuming if you go vildred/sez + destina

You have 2 free slot, I'd go for a bruiser, buffer or sub tank, sub healer to fill

Play around and experiment with what you have, if you wanna list out what you have rn would be easier for us to suggest, cuz we don't know what you have and don't have, hard to recommend a team built around 3 of them.
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post Aug 3 2019, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Aug 2 2019, 09:00 PM)
Didn't know that lower star units were part of actual team compositions as most previous played mobile games tend to focus more on higher star based unit compositions. Been using Ras - Vildred(Daydream Joker, Speed, Crit) - Sez(Exorcist's Tonfa, Attack) - Destina(Celestine, Health, Health, Def).

I have Romann, Pearlhorizon, Carmainerose, Rima, Elson, Jena, Carrot, Mucacha, Enott, Roozid, Alex, Kluri, Aither, Merc.
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Roman is a decent cr debuffer, dispels with S3 too, potentially can play tagahels or sira-ren on him, and I'd hold on to him and see what happens after his buff next week first before investing.

Roozid has high base speed bonus, great Cr pusher for PvP, ppl still use him in high tier PvP. I'd recommend specialty change him.

Alexa is once invested would help you in wyvern 11 when paired with joker, but I've fought players that used her to great effect in challenger league too. Good bait haha.

Kluri is also another great unit after specialty change. The minor free Cr boost and heals adds up on the long run. Her S3 dispel, provoke and Def break is still great after the cd nerf. Get her aurius if possible.

Aither also another underated starter free character, but needs investment to work too, but if given a choice, I'd invest in Montmorancy since she has sc and her kit is much more versatile comparatively.

You can try
Sez, vildred, destina, kluri
Roozid, vildred/sez, destina, kluri (PvP)
Destina, aither, sez, vildred

Just switch around according to your needs, have fun!




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post Aug 4 2019, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(chittyserv @ Aug 3 2019, 09:15 PM)
i spent RM60, im quite competitive with dark corvus and ML cecilia... all depends on luck. Just play and have fun ba.. always got free nat5 in this game.
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Nice rolls!

Not sure why ml Cecilia is underated in the community, she's annoying to fight against lol
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post Aug 4 2019, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(nders @ Aug 3 2019, 11:03 PM)
I spent RM 60 as well and average of 4 to 6 hrs a day for 2 months. Without any single use able ml. Lol. That's why I'm so pessimistic on the whaling part.

And this games community is pretty toxic right now. I'm on the Koreans side that this game needed A ALOT more optimization. But those toxic whales seem to think otherwise. Balancing heroes are considered taboo by them. Which is the first time I ever heard on a game. Cannot balance heroes after they are released. Lol WTF.
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ML atm isint really a must in this game honestly ever since the last major balancing.

I remember ppl used to think fire Baal was trash, but I was cleaving with him as Def breaker till masters lmao, he carried me good up alot of pve content too.

Tywin especially got a major upgrade with the 100% aoe Def break after mola. That change pushed me up to challenger.

Used Judith as team Cr booster, tywin aoe Def break Cr boost and buff sez, sez cleave (without wind rider, no chance to use it before nerf) using joker, 4th slot mage with tagahel for souls (tywin burn 2 turns)

The only place where high tier ml is a must would be champ tier PvP, maybe challenger too depending on your server meta.

Otherwise it's all alright, most "nerf" pretty much won't affect majority of the players.

Except for tiera (holy trinity nerf), they were pretty broken anyways
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post Aug 4 2019, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(nders @ Aug 4 2019, 10:35 AM)
Hence why I said only top tier pvp needed ml. But the gear system is still cancer. Stuck on all content and silver 3 for a good month now and the only way to pass is rng this stat, rng that stat, and rng thsi and that stat, also rng level, rng set type, rng enhance. Way too much rng in gears.

I understand rng is the core of any gacha, but no one can argue that they are way too many rng in one single aspect of the game as of now.

And about nerfing. Well... The community seems to think otherwise. OMG they nerfed  op heroes that are in 90 percent of the top arena teams. We need compensation!  Shrugs.
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Turn 2 or cleave team for your PvP setup?

It's still manageable even if you are stuck with certain rolls, assuming if you roll too much defensive stats, you can just go with the turn 2 setup, and speed tune your attacking team slowly along the way.

Netting PvP ranks through defending is not uncommon.

The current meta for lower masters are quite negligible in a sense, you can just go heavy DMG, debuff heavy or turtle. Just make sure you setup your defending team properly.

I do agree on the point that rng on gears can be horrible, and the game relies heavily on speed stat in particular across all content.
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post Aug 6 2019, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(chittyserv @ Aug 5 2019, 09:56 AM)
arghhh get Carmin right before the nerf! damn it!
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Carmin is still very strong after nerf lol

Her DMG mitigation kit is still there, they basically just lower it by a notch with the so called "nerf"
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post Aug 7 2019, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(chittyserv @ Aug 7 2019, 11:23 AM)
unfortunately 15% is like adamant shield...
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And you think a single unit that's capable of holding aurius, team immortality & immunity and a built in adamant shield is bad...?
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post Aug 8 2019, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(nders @ Aug 8 2019, 10:24 AM)
Withdrawal syndrome i guess, LOL.

having something so OP, suddenly back to being balanced, hard to accept. Well, I'm still having zero usable ML after the refunds and blowing all my gold stones, so nothing changed for me tongue.gif
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Small chance to roll ml units with convenant now tho, usually I'd skip summoning unless there is a pity or limited summon banner.

I skipped Bellona, Tama and krau banner when it came out, no regrets.

Dw bout it, with the mola refunds and resources given now, it's sufficient to boost regular units to great condition. Hope you have better luck rolling better stats on your gears. Those make real differences.
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post Aug 8 2019, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(nders @ Aug 8 2019, 10:06 PM)
yeah, characters isnt my real concern now, I can't even pass W10 and G10 B9 because of the shxtty gear rng. I have the characters needed to pass. but not the gears. so my gears also stuck coz of that. chicken and egg situation.

hopefully SG stop worrying about characters and make some real change to the gear system. getting stuck on a grind of 4-6 hr everyday for a full month and seeing no end to it really isnt going to appeal to most ppl.
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Another way would be clearing hunt7 and refining Mats to craft lvl85 gears with alchemist steeple and forge.

Or you can snipe some lv85 boots, rings or necklace from the bar shop, those give ALOT of stat boost even though it's white quality. My f.kluri is still on those lol
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post Aug 15 2019, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(kueks @ Aug 13 2019, 08:44 PM)
hie tubbs

i rolled challenger dominiel

gave her destruction set and critical set (correct right? xD)

hehe now focus to build her
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Nice!

Yeah if you have the set with decent rolls, she packs a punch single target dps

 

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