i am in total bad luck since Diene banner start whereas my friend luck is very good since Diene banner. i got no 5 star heroes after spending more than 300 bookmarks. my friend who roll around 100-200 bookmark got Iseria Yuffie, Diene, Surine, 5 star artifact. this is really started to be very demotivating and now the nerf of mostly 3 star characters.

i guess this is what it is. LOL

If mobile game is the only game you play then, need to fix that somehow xD

There is a lot of games out there that has non of those, check carefully xD

3 days without playing E7 because I was attending a LAN party opened my eye a bit. Thinking i'll be playing less of it for now. Plus my waifu Kise not gonna be as awesome as well soon. Developers destroying all the waifus I like in every stupid gacha game that isn't from Japan. Should just stick with JP gacha honestly lol.

Yeah MHW expansion woot!

I heard Kise will be nerfed

I should be playing more soon, side tracked playing other games. Still hoping for Kise at some point 

The more I look at hero journal... the more I wishing those damn 3* Dark & Light heroes got de eff outta ML summon pool...
Why would these "NON-ML" heroes in the Moonlight Summon when Hero Journal shows otherwise, they are just normal heroes in the 7th world but with Dark & Light attribute unlike real Moonlight which are either Alter ego or dimensional beings blah blah blah, and look at that galaxy bookmark's description: used to summon unique heroes who might not normally be found in this world... Frankly, either they did a poor translation or KR Developer being 'incoherent' n must be dropouts who fails at literacy or a little bit of both

3star getting nerfed may be an issue tomorrow onwards

I really don't mind as much about 3 stars getting nerfed, but there is a high chance that a specialty change will revert them back tooriginal which is fine. My problem would be if they nerf 4* and 5*, if they do it to a lot of characters, it just means I should avoid korean mobage, already avoiding chinese mobage, so all that is left is japanese mobage which still has little to no issues when it comes to balancing.. I forgot that korean developers are garbage when it comes to balancing, this can be said to a lot of their mmo games lol

It's really shitty, especially the devs.. The compensation is literally nothing as well. All the time spent grinding for that particular unit. Give our time back 

Of course, never expected they would do so... I doubt even if it's a japanese firm they would pull something like this that could be detrimental to their business model...

but i just felt like dissing their poor literacy, making the lores or rather the game universe so cheesy all in sudden when u saw someone like Elson ( wtf was he doing in that pool with all those "alter/supreme/extraterrestial beings")... trolling them just to feel better ...
Honestly, while initially hating it, DLC is still an acceptable way to get extra contect e.g characters comparing to de gacha system or imitator loot box...
Yah, specialty change may sound like it reversing the nerf... just like Kluri S1's perk 20% CR was just dropped to 15% for Falconer Kluri, but then in the skill tree, you can push it back up to 20%, just need extra investment of Greater runes, n alot of them ...

on the other hand, i haven't played japanese gacha for long except one, Grand Summoners, which they actually did nerf 2 units since debut 2years ago, though received backlash! so later on, they instead did it like creating new heroes overshadowing those early heroes, made them look like junks, and then design contents where you could hardly keep up or totally unviable with most heroes of the past... developers are trolls, lol

Japanese dev this days can't nerf or players can ask a refund. Gacha characters ofc, not free one's and etc. But it is alright to buff any that isn't a problem. Grand Summoners? When was that, that you play it. New laws kinda applied only a few years back when Granblue caused a lot of problem for consumer. Thus introduction of guaranteed characters after pulling a certain amount of summon like Diene banner. But Japanese gacha you can pick some other character after pulling a lot in the selector list.

Also the other rules that I mentioned. If characters gets nerfed, players can ask for a refund. So yeah dev won't dare to give a refund. That's a lot of players to refund, for those who are pulling on a certain banner. Seems fair and a win for players. So yeah developers are more careful when it comes to balancing characters and releasing them. Good example is Merlin in Fate Go and a bunch of other character in other games

This rules aren't enforced in KR, if not they won't dare nerf shit haha. But yeah those that smilegate nerf are mostly 3* for now outside of like Ravi being 5*. And the balancing seems alright for me, not that bad. Still nerfing is bad, they should play test longer and do their jobs properly smh

Lol don't rely on shitty reddit it is full of normies and retards who doesn't know shit what they are talking about. There is no rules in Japan mostly regarding gacha regulation, but all the big players such as the big 6 self regulate this rules so that government won't interfere with their business and punish them

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.asp...c3-6a148a6100e2

Please read that and stop relying on reddit. After reading that you will know why gacha games in Japanese mobage or so similar to each other, because they all agree on set of rules and regulate themselves so it won't be anti-consumer much and to protect their own interest.

It's ok la. Can't do much anyway, reddit is still pretty toxic for me haha, I only use reddit to search for solutions for new problems in games and etc, outside of that not much.

So how now? Still playing ke? I just daily login for now. Waiting for the patch and see what's next. Also interested to know more about the next dev note. See if they are listening or being an ignorant fool haha

That game pretty much took the style of the song, art and theme from Persona and SMT game.

Not gonna look elsewhere now, if I want to find a new moba gonna pick a japanese one.

Ya, I was wondering too why I haven't seen any update yet... not sure if Asia server follows global time zone...
Though this is a major update, may take whole day considering they have tendency to extend ...

I am too lazy to play gacha game (unless I really enjoy de gameplay), especially those that are spin-off from mother series, e.g. FFBE etc...
Some more like recent fan-service titles i.e arc the lad, yuyuhakusho, even Sage series from last week... though I had good luck pullin rarest heroes, I just couldn't stand watchin' my favorite heroes skill set/arsenal went through down-sizing, or rather they do it in such a way you must get different style of that same hero in order to play with their other skill sets, which mean more Gacha    ... gacha gameplay is de lamest n insult to classic , might as well take out my ps2, psp or emulator to replay those old classic titles

btw, you brought up a good point many didn't seem to realize... or even E7 developer neglected... the GEARS set up... without these, even a meta team with poor gear sets with low enhancement can only be as good or worse than Pearlhorizon+Jecht+Jenna+Hurado with fully enhanced gear sets ... And those times to get viable gear set and desired substats are just as mundane as killing x number of these & those creatures, I almost got bored from farming at one point... 
It was released end of 2016... I also learned of the ruling regarding gacha, but it's more like forcing the dev to indicate Gacha system is a Gamble, by informing the consumers the risk of using it in one way... there may be more details to it but I forgot most, probably an addendum to refund policy in Japan ONLY?

I actually don't mind they nerf or not, more like whether I can enjoy the full content (collect all heroes of course ) ... yet paying amount that I can play many other AAA titles just to enjoy ONE game content, that's awfully absurd!!! of course, for reason i stated above for some fan-service gacha games, I probably won't even bother playing too long due to deterioration of gaming experience (e.g. Arc the lad, I couldn't stand Tosh/Iga skill animation, and only 3 skills out of their 8+ skill sets ).

Logically, they shouldn't even nerf 3*, aside from F2P, for players who spent real cash, most of their rolls were also these bunches 3*... They should only buff the rarer 4* and 5*, and if they care so much to troll F2P, they could just make it a Premium download, otherwise they are penalizing P2W which where all the hates came from (whales excluded). A law should be drafted to give a big F for these developers or else consumers can't do anything when their T&C policy is working against them...

[Update] December's Second Update Notes

1. New Hero Kaillon
2. New ML characters Maid Chloe, Assasin Cidd
3. New Artifacts
4. Kaillon and Chellestis Rate Up (Not a Limited Banner)
5. Side Story Part 2
6. Opening of Raid-type Labyrinth : Royal Capital of Azmakallis
7. Kaillon Challenge
8. Hero/Artifact Balance changes and bug fixes
9. Addition of hero recall system
10. Other improvements and bug fixes

LOL they really want Elson and Tiera to die. time to recall.

Oh i see . you need complete chapter 5-9 ? ok i go finish it now thanks for the note lol.. by the way Yuna also can give speed and attack buff if u dun want Silk.

Imo Elson still usable, equip him with candle artifact and raise his skill level which is 5 turn CD, plus soul burn his skill CD is 2 turns, cmiiw.