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solaris22
post Jan 10 2019, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 10 2019, 12:23 AM)
Juat left K Gaming stream.  He say not very good for arena but good for Banshee. Maybe too early to tell.. Sigh..  Anyway not limited unit so can easy skip for me since i have a lot of def breaker. Kluri Iseria Cidd Tenebria and X God so might not need her yet.

On the other hand so sad..

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Wish it was shadow rose or something else.
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Bb karin pair well with the new Bellona, at least she better than any of my 3* ml summon, grats of getting her

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post Jan 10 2019, 04:25 PM

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20 bookmarks, got the wrong rate up lol.


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post Jan 14 2019, 10:57 AM

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Alot ppl jump ship on this banner, looking at k gaming spent more than $500 for Bellona, make me hesitate to pull, I got a feeling they will release limited banner on Cny, btw I'm gonna make an account on global, already done mostly pve stuffs on Asia server, not being good luck in pulling in this server 😂
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post Jan 23 2019, 05:43 PM

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Let's guess who is the next banner in the few more hours, btw I still didn't get Bellona, sad case. Hopefully to get her on daily free summon 😂
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post Jan 23 2019, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Jan 23 2019, 06:57 PM)
ML Ken on budget, guess my bookmarks are safe, I'm thinking should I continue to get Bellona before her banner end?

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post Jan 23 2019, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Jan 23 2019, 08:29 PM)
just summon 130 times. got 2 5 star hero , Ken and Stupiak Kayron. 4 unit of Shuri, 1 unit of Surin. 1 unit extra Angelica and Crozet and another Silk.

got one 5 star artifact uberus tooth and other 4 stars duplicate not worth mentioning.

thats it for me i guess. going to go slow pace from now onward. no more thing to do and i lazy to train phantasm every day. getting tired with this stupid RNG.

Everytime Epic Equipment give me one flat stat inside......they really need to reduce the RNG a bit. now is like everything also RNG.
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Ken is top tier after the recent buff, Kayron actually quite good with offensive pvp, but don't use him as defence team on pvp. I already finish all the pve contents including hard raid and abyss. I wan Bellona because I'm lack of ranger and I didn't train my silk. Guess I'm just save my bookmarks for limited banner, but judge smilegate after this patch, limited banner is just a dream, maybe it didn't gain profit from it.
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post Jan 23 2019, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(J1g54w @ Jan 23 2019, 11:36 PM)
If I can only focus on 4 heroes (to save resources)
which 4 is the best for Hell Lab? Thanks!

The ones I have:
Nat 5-stars:
Cecilia
Kise
Yuna
Diene
Zeno
Silk

Nat 4-stars:
Mercedes
Karin
Zerato
Armin
Cartuja
Achates
Cidd
Dingo
Clarissa
Maya
Purrgis
Dominiel
Crozet
Serila
Romann
Surin
Angelica

Nat 3-stars
All non-ML
ML I have Rikoris, Axe God, Doris, Requiemroar, Lorina, Elson, Kikirat v2
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Atm hell raid only open first boss which is the easiest among all the bosses, tmr patch will open 2nd boss so we dunno the mechanics of other bosses yet.
Basically u need to build one healer, buffer and 2 dps or a tanker.
Ur case u can build Axe God or lorina as dps, kise or requiemroar as sub dps, Diene as buffer and Angelica and kluri as healer or tanker. Cidd also not bad but u must build him higher hp coz he's too squishy. Just my opinion, maybe other can give u better answer.

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post Jan 24 2019, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Jan 24 2019, 08:54 PM)
Violet third skill multiplier is very high. when full focus his demage is consider highest among all the characters in the games currently.
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But his ai is stupid, I fought one violet at challenger rank, he only use his 2nd skill to heal when he's half life,and use s3 when his focus is not even 5, mean just aim others first then left his last to kill. His last skill high damage but u can't soul burn it, Cidd with soul burn last skill higher damage than violet.

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post Jan 25 2019, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Jan 25 2019, 12:03 AM)
is it?? my one i put auto every time he use skill 2 first. when counter and full bar focus only he will use his third skill though but i only use him in PVe so far and that is what he does.

Cidd demage indeed is high , 2.5(soul burn) * 1 and scale with your (speed*0.0021= assume your speed 200*0.0021=42% demage) + auto elemenent advantage (additional 10%) only when if u have speed buff. + when skill fullly enchance it is add on 30% demage

Violet  demage 1.5*0.9 and scale with focus ( one bar = 15% demage increase when 5 bar it is 75% increased) + enhance full skill damage 40%

if compare attack stat = Violet have additional 200 in attack compare to cidd assume same gear being wore.

if look from outside. cidd is indeed slightly higher with soul burn. cidd however need speed buff to trigger the element advantage if no speed buff no additional 30% unless u fighting water auto element advantage. if no elemnent advantage or when both also have element advantage there are very close demage wise.

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i tested my Violet again. yes indeed AI damn stupid. lol he use first skill first never bother to use second skill."

i tested again :-given senario both using same speed gear , cidd attack 2500, Violet 2700. speed both 200

Using general formula
Cidd S3                = (2500*1.6+42%)*1*1.871=10,627
Cidd S3(soul burn) = (2500*2.5+42%)*1*1.871= 16,605
Violet  S3              =  (2700*1.5+75%)*0.9*1.871=11,934

so Cidd soul burn is indeed very powerful before even taking in speed buff effect and elemental advantage.
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Woah nicely done for the in depth calculation, I didn't know the formula to calculate heroes skill damage, btw I need ur opinion, my Cidd now is 2800 damage with 180 speed, should I change my boots into speed main stats? If yes I can go up to 220 speed but I lost 55% attack stats, u think which one better, speed main Stat, or attack main Stat on boots?
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post Jan 25 2019, 01:45 AM

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And I saw on reddit someone mentioned Violet if use dreamblade, he doesn't counter attack when he's being trigger with the effect of the artifact. I hope it's a bug thou
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post Jan 25 2019, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Jan 25 2019, 02:05 AM)
wow that is one hell of tough decision to make also have to look at the sub stat

Senario 1 :-

2800 demage 180 Speed

Cidd S3(soul burn) = (2800*2.5+(180*0.0021)=37.8%)*1*1.871= 18,047

how much in real life above data translate into demage , assuming PVP enemy team def 700

18047*1.0 (assume no elemental advantage)/(700/300+1)=5,414 demage no critical

if critical assume 150% critical demage, your demage 5,414*1.5= 8,121, is this the demage u deal usually? of course this havent include the skill enchance u put in skill 3 and no speed buff

if you enchance your S3 max add another 30% demage

Cidd S3(soul burn) = (2800*2.5+(180*0.0021=37.8%)*30%)*1*1.871= 23,461 * 1.0/(700/300+1)=7,038 if no critical , if critical assume 150 cri demage, your demage will be 10,557

Senario 2 :-

Cidd full Awakening attack 1029, to boost the attack to 2800 (assuming you are wearing T6 weapon which +300 demage flat) you still need 1,500 attack which equalvalent to 150% attack %(roughly) i am assuming you are wearing attack % neacklare, Ring and Shoe. so if you drop 55% attack% shoe. your attack will only boost 100% which is around 1000. means your final attack stat around 2300 instead of 2800.

to put into formula

attack 2300, speed 220

Cidd S3(soul burn) = (2300*2.5+(220*0.0021)=46.2%)*1*1.871= 15,728

Translate into real life demage assuing enemy having 700 def

15,728*1.0 (assume no elemental advantage)/(700/300+1)=4,718 demage (no critical)

If critical assume 150% critical demage, your demage should be 4,718*1.5=7,077

if you enchance your S3 max add another 30% demage

Cidd S3(soul burn) = (2300*2.5+(220*0.0021=46.2%)*30%)*1*1.871= 20,447 * 1.0/(700/300+1)=6,134 if no critical , if critical assume 150 cri demage, your demage will be 9,201
Here you go. above should solve your doubt but u dun get to move first hahaha
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Thanks for the clarification, that's clear my thought and guess I just use attack boots till I get nice speed sub Stat on other equipment.
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post Jan 26 2019, 12:36 PM

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I wonder why smilegate released few heroes which exile in hunt back to back, kise bellona now Violet.
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post Jan 28 2019, 01:38 PM

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Guess here nobody play honkai Impact 3 before this? I was a die hard fans for their lore, played for a year before that I quit then join dragalia lost then in the end switch to E7. HI3 not a bad gacha game, just I'm bored of game too easily 😂
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post Jan 29 2019, 01:14 PM

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Full equipment ml Ken still shine at pvp Def team, but u need a good supp for him, healer is a must or maybe c. Armin. I don't think acc with ml Ken can sell with high price now coz there are too many of him in the game and he's not the king in the arena anymore, speed is the king of arena.
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post Jan 30 2019, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jan 30 2019, 01:16 PM)
Oh wait it's tomorrow. A bit too excited  laugh.gif
Nevertheless, grind the fire runes now. Just incase Hazel spec change drops.

Hoping Luna will come but i don't mind waiting longer, more skystones to roll for her.
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Bro today altar is water rune, how to grind fire rune today, I know u excited regarding new patch but be strong , hope hazel SC don't screw like Roozid SC
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post Jan 30 2019, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jan 30 2019, 02:26 PM)
Welcome to Global server. It's fire.
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OH ya, my apologies forgotten global server is nearly one day behind Asia server hehe
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post Jan 30 2019, 08:45 PM

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Anyone read the patch note yet, hazel is fire element buffer, time to build my Kayron for pvp 😂
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post Jan 30 2019, 10:20 PM

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Before SC hazel, s3 buff attack for 2 turns, after SC buff attack for 1 turn, can I call it a nerf wtf. I wan hazel coz I don't have Diene, 1 turn buff is so stingy sigh
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post Jan 30 2019, 11:53 PM

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I can't see this game going into a healthy direction, with all the greater buff, there will be power creeps. Smilegate won't give us good 3* specifically change after Axe god, I guess they made a mistake for SC kluri which too good with every contents.

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post Jan 31 2019, 01:21 AM

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Well I don't have any hate for Korean gacha game coz I don't spend on it. I just get bored easily after a matter of time, it depends how fast I get bored of a particular game and quit after that. While E7 I might quit sooner 😂

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