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SUStiestoycc
post Nov 7 2018, 01:21 PM

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all those defending the HR, i am sure they are from HR

only HR will defend HR or maybe business owners, so they can lowball the candidates

well, such is the world... capitalism FTW! businesses lowballing candidates are as normal as finding salt on the internet
SUStiestoycc
post Nov 7 2018, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(BukLau @ Nov 7 2018, 01:53 PM)
Not working as HR, but same thing goes to job seekers, of course we are helping each other to raise the salary bar  biggrin.gif

On a serious note, I've always appreciate the SOP of recruitment in the EU. They set a budget for the role (e.g. 40k - 45k p.a.) and that's it, regardless of your previous pay or position, either you get it or not. Fair to both parties.
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exactly! that's how it should be!

every company surely will have an allocated budget for each position, then if the candidate's skills/experiences can match the budget, then why not? why must die die lowball the fella?

i already kena this before, previous company, asked for my current and expected, they said no, cannot, because increment more than 50%, so i fight until at least 50%... i just dont get the need to offer salary based on current salary, really wtf
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post Nov 7 2018, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(BukLau @ Nov 7 2018, 02:22 PM)
I mean, they can always reward those who are more experienced with more bonus, instead of penalize someone with less experienced who's doing the same job.

If the less experienced performs better, then he/she deserves more rewards. The thing about our work culture is that, there's always someone who's willing to take the job with lower pay hence we believe in punishment instead of reward to motivates workers.

This mindset is shaped by "since no Malaysian is willing to do the job, we import cheap foreign workers who are willing to do it with lower than minimum wages".

Ultimately, if the government decided to take a stance on "made in Malaysia" and increase all minimum wages to at least RM2k which only seems viable for a single average living cost, the dynamic of our job market will definitely change.

My friend in Australia has been a barista in a local cafe for more than 10 years since 16 year old in Tasmania, and still able to afford to purchase a 2 bedroom flat in 30 years mortgage, and some.
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Which is just sad... this is all in the Asians mindset, only through punishment, that one will only get better.

thanks to the well ingrained mindset of "kalau tak suka, keluar!" just awesome!

if you don't like it, then leave! Instead of finding the root cause of the problem

 

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