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Frank3
post Nov 5 2018, 05:53 PM

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Since you are happy in current company, and open to right opportunity.
If i were you, i will give whatever they want, and tell them my expected salary (put more than 20-30%).
If they die die want to offer based on last drawn salary which is not my expected salary, i will just reject the offer.

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post Nov 5 2018, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(vanbrah @ Nov 5 2018, 05:54 PM)
Yes seems like the best approach in current Malaysian market.
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Not only Malaysian, it applies to Singapore also sad.gif
I strongly support that "keeping yourself open" even you are happy what you are doing now.
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post Nov 7 2018, 11:41 AM

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If the purpose of getting payslip is just to verify my previous job history for background check, then it is reasonable.

Seems like they are using this as a reason but offer salary 20% increment based on last drawn salary and claim that is their policies and etc.. ranting.gif

I will insist my expected salary and look for other job, unless my current job is nightmare and salary is terrible (must live frugally) and i willing to take that 20% increment (better than nothing)
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post Nov 7 2018, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Nov 7 2018, 05:17 PM)
So its still based on current pay as u showed them your pay slip

Imagine if there's no sharing of pay slip, if country manager think u are the best to hire, they will still hire based on your expected, not at your pay slip
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It will be unfair for scenario below:

Candidate A, expected salary: 5000, last drawn: 2500 (underpaid), increment: 100%

Candidate B, expected salary: 5000, last drawn: 4000 (well paid), increment: 25%

Both of them have same capability, same education, same job scope, same experience.

Im sure HR will pick candidate B if follow the stupid last drawn salary schema.
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post Nov 7 2018, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(patricktoh @ Nov 7 2018, 08:05 PM)
HR not necessarily need to give the exact expected salary. For me I will choose A and give him 4k salary if he does match the guy with current 4k salary. Lower risk, cost saving and give A more room to grow. Win-win situation.
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What if Candidate A insist want 5k.. will you choose him or candidate B.

Lesson learnt: Fresh graduate's first job salary must match market rate/high enough, do not accept low ball job offer. If starting salary low = underpaid forever *if everyone follow this protocol*
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post Nov 7 2018, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Nov 7 2018, 10:24 PM)
Of course, that will be the ideal scenario. But alas, alot companies still abuse this, and when fresh grad are desperate, what offer also take as they need to start making money
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That is the reason why so many employers complained hard to hire peoples, mean while there are so many unemployed fresh graduates... they rather waiting for the right opportunity instead of low ball offer unless they are from poor company cannot survive without a job.


 

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