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post Nov 12 2018, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Holyjolly @ Nov 11 2018, 03:39 PM)
TN panel is more common cause it is cheaper technology and suitable for high refresh rate. But it has its own disadvantage in terms of quality such as viewing angle, colour etc..
IPS is the best. if got budget go for IPS. I think many brand is developing high Hz for IPS. But they are expensive.
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yes i know. i own few ips monitor as i am editor.

but for gaming, ips is optional. unless super rich and have extra money no idea where to spent.
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post Nov 12 2018, 01:11 PM

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IPS for gaming is overrated.
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QUOTE(Fzeo @ Nov 12 2018, 12:18 AM)
yes i know. i own few ips monitor as i am editor.

but for gaming, ips is optional. unless super rich and have extra money no idea where to spent.
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Agree with you bro. Depends on individual preference. we can have two station for editing and gaming.
For FPS player, I think speed is important over the graphic.
I have experienced high Hz screen on yesterday, it do help me a lot. I am still ok with the colour quality of TN panel.
I am poisoned.
Now it is just a matter of Gsync or not...

This post has been edited by Holyjolly: Nov 12 2018, 01:19 PM
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New generation TN panel not like old, their viewing angle and colors are nice for gaming.

Gaming doesn't require color accuracy.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 12 2018, 01:18 PM)
New generation TN panel not like old, their viewing angle and colors are nice for gaming.

Gaming doesn't require color accuracy.
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Agree. I have not come across the Gsync yet. Does it play an important role in bringing significant effect to our eyes?
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I don't feel any difference with Sync technologies.

I've used AMD card on Nvidia monitor and vice versa, nope didn't make a difference to me.
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QUOTE(Holyjolly @ Nov 12 2018, 01:13 PM)
Agree with you bro. Depends on individual preference. we can have two station for editing and gaming.
For FPS player, I think speed is important over the graphic.
I have experienced high Hz screen on yesterday, it do help me a lot. I am still ok with the colour quality of TN panel.
I am poisoned.
Now it is just a matter of Gsync or not...
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VR je
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 12 2018, 11:36 PM)
I don't feel any difference with Sync technologies.

I've used AMD card on Nvidia monitor and vice versa, nope didn't make a difference to me.
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Didnt use any sync yet. I do noticed tearing on my games for Dell U2414H at V-Sync 60hz. Considering Acer XB271HU now.

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I didn't game on my U2414H for a long time now. biggrin.gif What game was it that you saw tearing?
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 13 2018, 11:37 AM)
I didn't game on my U2414H for a long time now. biggrin.gif What game was it that you saw tearing?
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Pretty much any 3D game. I looked really hard for tearing. Currently back playing World of Warcraft.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 13 2018, 11:00 AM)
Didnt use any sync yet. I do noticed tearing on my games for Dell U2414H at V-Sync 60hz. Considering Acer XB271HU now.
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have you found any good price for XB271HU yet?
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Nov 13 2018, 05:03 PM)
have you found any good price for XB271HU  yet?
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RM2.4k so far

https://shopee.com.my/ACER-XB271HU-bmiprz-2...08462.221040725
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 13 2018, 06:10 PM)
hmm. Viewnet selling RM2399 the last i checked yesterday. don't think with free gift though

still thinking if i should wait for more reduction

p/s: sorry for hijacking
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 12 2018, 01:11 PM)
IPS for gaming is overrated.
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coming from VA and TN panel to IPS XB271hu cant really say I would ever go back .

The colors are so much different
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Nov 14 2018, 02:15 AM)
coming from VA and TN panel to IPS XB271hu cant really say I would ever go back .

The colors are so much different
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Its like LCD jumping to IPS LED for me. I will never go back.
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Nov 13 2018, 07:41 PM)
hmm. Viewnet selling RM2399 the last i checked yesterday. don't think with free gift though

still thinking if i should wait for more reduction

p/s: sorry for hijacking
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It is ok. Open discussion is good for knowledge.
Hey guys, give me a hand to pick your recommended monitors from the list that I have made on 1st page. But I think the 3 below are having higher chance.

1. AOC G2460PF
2. BenQ XL2411P
3. Viewsonic XG2402

This post has been edited by Holyjolly: Nov 14 2018, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Nov 14 2018, 02:15 AM)
coming from VA and TN panel to IPS XB271hu cant really say I would ever go back .

The colors are so much different
I think you've missed the point entirely.

You see, IPS panels are one thing but color accuracy is never a requirement for gaming.

And if you've bought an IPS screen......... good, that doesn't mean it's accurate either, many people assume IPS = accurate, it's not. You have to calibrate it, it has supposedly wider color gamut that doesn't make it accurate.

As for the TN part - have you tried the good ones? If you come from low-grade VA / TN, certainly there will be difference but that's not to say all TN / VA are bad. Even IPS have low-grade ones.

I can tell you, I'm an IPS person for ages, always have been insisting IPS for my screen as I use it for my work but last year when I got the Alienware AW2518H - totally floored me, that's not the TN panel I know.

However new generation TN panels are really nice, nowadays I game with TN panel - works great, can't tell the difference anyway, not unless I view it side by side. I use VA panels for video work before, no issue. Same goes to my HTPC 4K screen, VA panel.
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QUOTE(Holyjolly @ Nov 11 2018, 03:25 PM)
Bro, your situation same as me. Let's share info together. I am eyeing on the Viewsonic XG2402 also but it is without Gsync.
For AOC G2460PG like been around since year 2014. I think I saw them in Lingloong & Etech PC monitor thread. Maybe you can explore it with them?
I think you can look on the Predator XB252Q (TN panel, 240Hz, Gsync) that i come across on yesterday. I think around RM1.8K. Not sure this brand got 24", 144Hz with Gsync or not.]
I think Predator XB241H also have similar price at 144hz, overclock to 160Hz
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For the AOC G2460PG I had to search at pcpartpicker or any reviews that showcased the monitor without crossfire icon. Still, I am unsure whether to get it or not. Etech pc do have stock but lingloong need to order. Besides paying RM1695 for entry level gsync monitor makes me cringe. My friends are against getting acer due to their experiences with customer service so I kept that on hold.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 12 2018, 11:36 PM)
I don't feel any difference with Sync technologies.

I've used AMD card on Nvidia monitor and vice versa, nope didn't make a difference to me.
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I have a gtx 1070. I expect most games will run about 70-120 ish FPS so any monitor regardless of sync will be fine correct?

QUOTE(Holyjolly @ Nov 14 2018, 10:29 AM)
It is ok. Open discussion is good for knowledge.
Hey guys, give me a hand to pick your recommended monitors from the list that I have made on 1st page. But I think the 3 below are having higher chance.

1. AOC G2460PF
2. BenQ XL2411P
3. Viewsonic XG2402
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I would pick the viewsonic. Seems that its the best among those monitors.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 14 2018, 11:29 AM)
I think you've missed the point entirely.

You see, IPS panels are one thing but color accuracy is never a requirement for gaming.

And if you've bought an IPS screen......... good, that doesn't mean it's accurate either, many people assume IPS = accurate, it's not. You have to calibrate it, it has supposedly wider color gamut that doesn't make it accurate.

As for the TN part - have you tried the good ones? If you come from low-grade VA / TN, certainly there will be difference but that's not to say all TN / VA are bad. Even IPS have low-grade ones.

I can tell you, I'm an IPS person for ages, always have been insisting IPS for my screen as I use it for my work but last year when I got the Alienware AW2518H - totally floored me, that's not the TN panel I know.

However new generation TN panels are really nice, nowadays I game with TN panel - works great, can't tell the difference anyway, not unless I view it side by side. I use VA panels for video work before, no issue. Same goes to my HTPC 4K screen, VA panel.
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Maybe I should get that alienware instead. Looked very nice. The pricing for freesync version is also decent.
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QUOTE(Holyjolly @ Nov 11 2018, 03:25 PM)
Bro, your situation same as me. Let's share info together. I am eyeing on the Viewsonic XG2402 also but it is without Gsync.
For AOC G2460PG like been around since year 2014. I think I saw them in Lingloong & Etech PC monitor thread. Maybe you can explore it with them?
I think you can look on the Predator XB252Q (TN panel, 240Hz, Gsync) that i come across on yesterday. I think around RM1.8K. Not sure this brand got 24", 144Hz with Gsync or not.]
I think Predator XB241H also have similar price at 144hz, overclock to 160Hz
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For the AOC G2460PG I had to search at pcpartpicker or any reviews that showcased the monitor without crossfire icon. Still, I am unsure whether to get it or not. Etech pc do have stock but lingloong need to order. Besides paying RM1695 for entry level gsync monitor makes me cringe. My friends are against getting acer due to their experiences with customer service so I kept that on hold.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 12 2018, 11:36 PM)
I don't feel any difference with Sync technologies.

I've used AMD card on Nvidia monitor and vice versa, nope didn't make a difference to me.
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I have a gtx 1070. I expect most games will run about 70-120 ish FPS so any monitor regardless of sync will be fine correct?

QUOTE(Holyjolly @ Nov 14 2018, 10:29 AM)
It is ok. Open discussion is good for knowledge.
Hey guys, give me a hand to pick your recommended monitors from the list that I have made on 1st page. But I think the 3 below are having higher chance.

1. AOC G2460PF
2. BenQ XL2411P
3. Viewsonic XG2402
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I would pick the viewsonic. Seems that its the best among those monitors.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 14 2018, 11:29 AM)
I think you've missed the point entirely.

You see, IPS panels are one thing but color accuracy is never a requirement for gaming.

And if you've bought an IPS screen......... good, that doesn't mean it's accurate either, many people assume IPS = accurate, it's not. You have to calibrate it, it has supposedly wider color gamut that doesn't make it accurate.

As for the TN part - have you tried the good ones? If you come from low-grade VA / TN, certainly there will be difference but that's not to say all TN / VA are bad. Even IPS have low-grade ones.

I can tell you, I'm an IPS person for ages, always have been insisting IPS for my screen as I use it for my work but last year when I got the Alienware AW2518H - totally floored me, that's not the TN panel I know.

However new generation TN panels are really nice, nowadays I game with TN panel - works great, can't tell the difference anyway, not unless I view it side by side. I use VA panels for video work before, no issue. Same goes to my HTPC 4K screen, VA panel.
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Maybe I should get that alienware instead. Looked very nice. The pricing for freesync version is also decent.
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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Nov 15 2018, 10:49 AM)
For the AOC G2460PG I had to search at pcpartpicker or any reviews that showcased the monitor without crossfire icon. Still, I am unsure whether to get it or not. Etech pc do have stock but lingloong need to order. Besides paying RM1695 for entry level gsync monitor makes me cringe. My friends are against getting acer due to their experiences with customer service so I kept that on hold.
I have a gtx 1070. I expect most games will run about 70-120 ish FPS so any monitor regardless of sync will be fine correct?
I would pick the viewsonic. Seems that its the best among those monitors.
Maybe I should get that alienware instead. Looked very nice. The pricing for freesync version is also decent.
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That AOC G2460PG is the cheapest Gsync model among all already. But that price still high in malaysia. Oversea price got reduction since it is old model.
Basically we can say we need to top up another RM600-800 for the Gsync.
Do you mean Dell Alienware AW2518HF? I see most of them can over RM2k, cheapest RM1.8k for 240Hz freesync.
But looks cool tho. The bezel & futuristic design. I think the pricing is falling on the Predator range.

This post has been edited by Holyjolly: Nov 15 2018, 03:39 PM

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